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    Quote Originally Posted by metaiwan
    I thought each block was set to start to develop at certain times, eg first 1-7 second 8-14 etc etc etc, not sure where I read that, but that could certainly account for changes in inversion/extraversion. what about correlating grof's perinatal matrices with type? your type is determined by yourself by your reaction to the birth process....
    According to the theories of some Socionists these Grof's Perinatal Matrices correspond to the four Quadras in Socionics. Thus the basic values of every Quadra are defined by the way the newborn child reacts to the different stages of the process of birth. This was one short but fairly representative source I found by Googling:

    Grof's Basic Perinatal Matrices, summarized in his own words
    BPM I:
    The biological basis of this matrix is the experience of the original symbiotic unity of the fetus with the [mother].... Archetypal images from the collective unconscious that can be selectively reached in this state involve the heavens or paradises of different cultures of the world. The experience of the first matrix also involves elements of cosmic unity or mystical union.
    BPM II:
    This experiential pattern is related to the very onset of biological delivery....the original equilibrium of the intrauterine existence is disturbed....Very characteristic for this stage is the experience of a three-dimensional spiral, funnel, or whirlpool, sucking the subject relentlessly towards its center....The corresponding mythological theme seems to be the beginning of the hero's journey....Agonizing feelings of metaphysical loneliness, helplessness, inferiority, existential despair, and guilt are standard constituents of this matrix.
    BPM III:
    Many important aspects of this complex experiential matrix can be understood from its association with the second clinical stage of biological delivery....This involves an enormous struggle for survival, crushing mechanical pressure, and often a high degree of anoxia and suffocation....[Themes of BPM III include the] titanic fight, sadomasochistic experiences, intense sexual arousal, demonic episodes, scatalogical involvement, and encounter with fire. All these occur in the context of a determined death-rebirth struggle....Related archetypal themes are images of the Last Judgement, the extraordinary feats of superheroes, and mythological battles of cosmic proportions involving demons and angels or gods and Titans....[BPM III experiences] combine sex with death, danger, biological material, aggression, self-destructive impulses, physical pain, and spirituality.
    BPM IV:
    This perinatal matrix is meaningfully related to the third clinical stage of delivery, the actual birth of the child. In this final stage, the agonizing process of the birth struggle comes to an end....The symbolic counterpart of this final stage of delivery is the death-rebirth experience....The transition from BPM III to BPM IV involves a sense of annihilation on all imaginable levels--physical destruction, emotional debacle, intellectual defeat, ultimate moral failure, and absolute damnation of transcendental proportions.This experience of "ego death" seems to entail an instant merciless destruction all previous reference points in the life of the individual....[after which]The subject experiences a deep sense of spiritual liberation, redemption, and salvation.
    http://www.as220.org/jb/trans/defs.html#BPM

    A longer, more nuanced discussion here:
    http://www.mimbres.com/holp/holpath/bpms.htm

    Socionics research on the Basic Perinatal Matrices:
    Lomonosova Ye.
    The Influence of the Process of Human Birth (S.Grof's Basic Perinatal Matrices) On Informational Metabolism Type
    Within the bounds of the research work performed in Dobrye Lyudi (Good People) Social Adaptation Center symbols and images of the Basic Perinatal Matrices first described by S.Grof (restored recollection of the child's own birth experience) have been discovered in course of detecting informational metabolism types in folk tales. From here a hypothesis of correlation between the so called basic perinatal matrices (BPM) and informational metabolism types (IMTs) has arisen. The author's methodology of Unzipping Psycho-Energetic Memory (UPEM) allowed starting research in this field. The methodology allows recollecting one's own experience of birth in either direct or symbolic sensations, which in turn allows determining at which BPM the patient is fixed. Knowing his informational metabolism type, it is easy to make correlation between the BPM and the quadra. Preliminary results of the research confirm the correlation between the informational metabolism type and the BPM.
    Key words: process of birth, basic perinatal matrix, informational metabolism type, symbol, archetype, image, folk tale.
    http://www.socionics.ibc.com.ua/ej/soc_03_3.html


    What gave me the inspiration to write about this theory was this article on The New York Times that seems to indicate that there could really be some scientific basis to these theories. I cited it in full here before it disappears behind the subscription wall.

    Tracking Stress and Depression Back to the Womb
    By LAURIE TARKAN

    Published: December 7, 2004


    By listening intently to movements and heartbeats, researchers are finding that the fetuses of mothers who are stressed or depressed respond differently from those of emotionally healthy women.

    After birth, studies indicate, these infants have a significantly increased risk of developing learning and behavioral problems, and may themselves be more vulnerable to depression or anxiety as they age.

    The studies, researchers caution, are preliminary. Stress or depression during a mother's pregnancy is only one among many influences that affect an infant's development. Even among mothers who are depressed or highly stressed, the rate of emotional and behavioral problems in children is still very low.

    "The last thing pregnant women need is to have something else to worry about," said Dr. Janet DiPietro, a developmental psychologist at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health.

    The studies reflect growing evidence that stress and depression can have early and lasting effects on a child's life.

    If the findings hold up, experts say, they could eventually lead obstetricians, midwives and other health professionals who care for pregnant women to include mental health screening as a routine part of prenatal examinations. Such screening could allow doctors to recommend therapy or treatment for pregnant women who suffer from depression or other disorders.

    "We could be intervening earlier," said Dr. Catherine Monk, an assistant professor in the psychiatry department at the College of Physicians and Surgeons at Columbia. "Prenatal care is an optimal time to do mental health screening, but we don't."

    The effects of stress on a fetus have been well documented in animal studies. In rats, researchers have found, babies born to stressed mothers show permanent changes in brain chemistry and behavior. For example, rat pups exposed prenatally to elevated levels of the stress hormone corticosterone were born with reduced numbers of corticosterone receptors in the brain, and the animals showed exaggerated responses to stress.

    In humans, there is convincing evidence that mothers who are stressed in pregnancy are more likely to give birth to preterm or infants with low birth weights.

    In recent years, scientists have begun to home in on more subtle effects, studying how unborn fetuses respond to their mothers' anxiety or depression, the emotional health of the infants after birth and how they fare later in childhood. Some studies have offered unusual glimpses into the symbiotic relationship between a mother and a developing child.

    Dr. Monk has looked at the increase and decrease in a fetus's heart rate when its mother is under stress.

    In one study, women who were in the third trimester of pregnancy went through psychological screening for depression and anxiety. They were then asked to perform a series of stress-inducing computer tasks. As expected, all the women showed increases in heart rate, respiration and blood pressure. The responses of the fetuses were more varied. The fetuses of mothers who were depressed or had anxious personality styles showed increases in heart rates. In contrast, the heart rates of fetuses whose mothers were emotionally healthy showed no fluctuations.

    Dr. Monk said the fetuses were not simply mimicking their mothers' responses.

    "What this leaves us with is another interpretation," she said. "The fetuses of depressed or high anxious women are more reactive to stimuli than other fetuses."

    She compared the fetuses' responses to the way people in a waiting room might react differently to a door being slammed. In this case, a fetus might be reacting to the mother's increased heartbeat or breathing, or to a jolt of stress hormones.

    Dr. Monk said depressed women tended to have more difficulty handling stress, which leads to higher levels of stress hormones like cortisol. She speculated that those higher levels, in turn, might make the fetus more jumpy.

    "My hypothesis is that over the course of gestation, they have been exposed to an altered in utero environment, which includes increased levels of stress hormones," Dr. Monk said. "This may make fetuses more susceptible to stressors in the future, and by extension, because stress plays a role in the development of depression, may make them more vulnerable to depression in the future."

    Though stress and depression are closely intertwined, researchers believe that stress is the more potent player in affecting prenatal development. In a study by Dr. DiPietro, pregnant women who perceived their lives, and in particular their pregnancies, as stressful, had fetuses who were more active in an ultrasound test.

    Other studies have linked higher levels of stress hormones in the mother with a more active fetus.

    Dr. DiPietro has found that more active fetuses tend to become more active 1-year-olds, providing some evidence that the effects are not transient.

    In newborns, researchers have also found that the effects of a mother's depression lingered.

    A study published this year in Infant Behavior & Development compared 70 depressed pregnant women with 70 women who were not depressed. The study found that compared with the infants of the healthy mothers, the newborns of mothers with depression symptoms had higher cortisol levels and lower levels of dopamine and serotonin, two neurotransmitters that have been tied to depression.

    The newborns also had less developed learning skills, they were less responsive to social stimulation, and they were less able to calm themselves when agitated, said Dr. Tiffany Field, the author of the study and director of the Touch Research Institutes at the University of Miami School of Medicine.

    In another study, Dr. Monk put newborn babies in specially designed bassinets that were tilted 30 degrees up or down, a standard method of testing a newborn's responsiveness. When a baby's head is down, the heart rate normally decreases in response to the stress. But newborns with depressed mothers showed a smaller decrease in heart rate, suggesting that they were less able to adapt to stress.

    What begins in the womb persists into childhood, researchers find. In a study published in 2002 in The British Journal of Psychiatry, researchers asked 7,448 women in England to assess their level of stress while they were pregnant and answer questionnaires about their children's behavior at age 4. The study found that children whose mothers reported high levels of anxiety in late pregnancy were more likely to have behavior problems - most notably attention difficulties - as 4-year-olds.

    "Women who scored in the top 15 percent of anxiety had double the risk of having a child with severe behavioral problems," said Dr. Thomas O'Connor, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Rochester, who is an author of the study.

    The children in the study had a 10 percent chance of having such problems, Dr. O'Connor said, compared with a 5 percent risk among children in the general population.

    Dr. Vivette Glover, a perinatal psychobiologist at Imperial College London and another author of the study, noted that even though the children of stressed mothers were at increased risk, the rate of behavior problems remained very low.

    "Even with this anxious group of women, 90 percent of children don't have these behavioral problems," Dr. Glover said. "So even if a woman is pretty anxious, her children are probably going to be fine."

    Screening pregnant women for mental health problems is quite likely to be controversial.

    "In terms of public health, it's very important if we could reduce the incidence of behavioral problems by treating women during pregnancy," Dr. Glover said.

    She noted that cognitive behavioral therapy had proven highly successful in treating adults who suffer severe anxiety.

    Some researchers say that any recommendation for screening and treatment during pregnancy is premature because the research is still preliminary. They point to studies suggesting that a mother's stress may in some cases be beneficial to her fetus.

    In one study, 2-year-olds whose mothers reported high levels of anxiety in pregnancy had better motor and cognitive skills than children whose mothers did not report being highly anxious.

    Some experts say a fetus's awareness that its mother is stressed may serve an evolutionary purpose, preparing it for entry into a difficult world.

    "If a fetus is constantly going to be threatened after he is born, and there's danger to its well-being, it may make sense for it to develop a system that produces big responses to stress," said Dr. Pathik D. Wadhwa, director of the Behavioral Perinatology Research Program at the University of California, Irvine.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/07/he...tml?oref=login(Free registration required)

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    And that's before you are even born, you fetuses out there. Once you are birthed life's grandiloquency burgeons into almost unbearable proportions.

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    This is complete bullshit. The human consciousness has not evolved to such a degree at that point of life to accomplish such a complex mental association.

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    Maybe it is, but the images and feelings that come from each BPM definitely affect a person in a definite way. It is to be debated whether BPMs really come from prenatal experiences, however.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    The real gem of the whole BPM thing is probably the concept of COEX systems(condensed experience), that is, the idea that in our mind are regions associated with particular physiological experiences. COEX systems are like tiny universes in our minds which are dominated by a particular atomosphere or mood.

    Grof is saying say that linear time and space as we see them in our modern, pre-packaged way of thinking are merely illusions since our experiences in our minds dont really exist so much in time as they do similarities of qualia. Our thoughts are based upon associations of experiences.

    The birth stages are the ultimate metaphors for creation and can be associated with every other human experience. I think that Grof was trying to say that these "original experiences" stand as major foundations, or pillars, for all of our subsequent thoughts.

    So the universe(in our minds) is a giant metaphor of associated experiences, rather than just the "networking" of learned facts in the form of a linear algorithm.

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    Sad thing here is, is that there would need to be mechanisms available to interpret one's experiences and relate them in order to form such an atmosphere.

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    Now I'm definitely not a "transpersonal awareness" sorta person but the concept of COEX systems and their foundations resting on significant birth experiences doesn't really seem sad at all. It seems that Grof shy's away from mechanisms and structures and attempts to interpret consciousness as an integrated whole. The advantage of this attempt is that it encourages individual self awareness rather than a fear of the self. a sort of "no one understand you better than you" attitude, which is theraputic and true. Nature built in tools to cope with suffering, society stole our awareness of them. ever seen a frightened mouse or animal? ever noticed how they hyperventilate? perhaps its a coping mechanism.

    and who says COEX SYSTEMS exist in only one place? perhaps memory traces of our experiences exist in many portions of the brain. when we recall memories vividly(such as a person under hypnosis or a person having traumatic flashbacks) we may re-enact the various sensori-motor behaviors(sensing the same smells, mimicing the same facial expressions, punching, and running), feel the same emotions we felt, and have an intuitive spacial awareness of where we were and who was present. Dramatic age regressions DO occur, they aren't necessarily B.S.

    every system has many pieces, the COEX doesn't have to necessarily be localized in a small little compartment in the brain. Grof's theory is an abstract one, he doesnt know WHY coex systems exist, or what they look like(they are what they are), but they are a hypothesis he has developed through many years of research. Freud's theory's, in essence, are very similar to Grof's(psychosexual stages and how traumas during these stages influence personality).

    people shouldn't be so hard on these "transpersonal" types. they may not be totally grounded in reason but at least they have the courage to explore the minds they were given. Why should we ignore what they have to say?

    His books are a fun read, too. I didn't agree with everything i read, but he is the expert(he created his own field) and i'm not.

    They're worth the read.

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    I appologze, I fear I may have not made it clear that I meant, we do not have the mechanisms during the period in which one is a prenatal state, and thus renders his entire theory bunk.

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    yeah, i sorta did misunderstand- my fault. I'm just arguing for aguments sake. I see what you mean. Grof himself seems to think that the current scientific understanding of memory is outdated, but then again, he isnt a neurologist.

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