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    Default Movies and Socionic Types - Adding Method to the Mayhem

    Ok I've compiled a decent list of characters from movies and their types. I've done this because I have seen A LOT of movies in my lifetime, in fact every time I watch a movie I go to IMDB.com and rate it, I've done this over the span of 7 years, I have about 760 movies rated, lol.

    As I've said in other threads, good writers base their characters on real-life counterparts, therefore because a person, in real life, is typeable, so is a well-written character. I did not come to any of these conclusions "thoughtlessly". I've only stated the types of characters that I am confident of, and for me to be confident enough to state my opinion on something means that I strongly believe in its validity.

    Anyways I've created this thread with purpose, not just to make claims. I've noticed that in movie and tv show threads there is much debating that gets nowhere. Neither party knows where the other is coming from in their type claims. In this thread you'll see where I'm coming from.

    In terms of your comments ----
    a) Look over the characters from your personal type.
    b) Did I get it right? Would you say there are patterns of mistakes in how I type others?
    c) If you're interested in Socionics and interested in movies, well then this thread may help you find something to rent!
    d) In other threads we've discussed the tendency for people to type characters they sympathize with within their own quadra. I've wondered often if I was guilty of this... hence this thread should clear that up
    e) I know some types have received more attention from me - this is because I've only included characters I'm confident in typing - it's not a coincidence that INFps are the largest category. Types that didn't receive as much attention are types I'm less confident with
    f) Focus on the patterns within each type to understand where I'm coming from. Focus on the patterns in behaviour, especially negative behaviour. (i.e. INFp characters show a tendency towards depressed & histrionic behaviour)
    g) I may be wrong with some of these, I admit it. But please don't just state "He's not ESFp he's ESTp! duh" because it's not duh. I love movies so if you want me to understand what a type is "actually" like then give me examples. If you want to use functions I only really understand the Role, Creative and POLr ones, the rest is still kinda greek unless explained well. I've included as many characters as I could because I'm interested in the patterns above all. Patterns are what I use to differentiate types. My dependence on this may mean that you'll find a "pattern of mistakes", if so please inform me!
    h) I don't think anyone has yet endeavored to post as large a database so enjoy!

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    ENTP
    Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct 2"
    James Spader in "Secretary"
    Val Kilmer in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
    Jude Law in "Match Point"
    Mark Wahlberg in "I Heart Huckabees"
    Michael J. Fox in "Doc Hollywood"
    Benny in "City of God"
    Veronica Mars

    ISFP
    Stephanie in "The Science of Sleep"
    Maggie Gyllenhaal in "Secretary"
    The Taxidermist in "El Aura" (Spanish)

    ESFj
    Ruth in "Six Feet Under"

    INTj
    Matt Damon in "The Good Shepherd"
    David in "Six Feet Under"
    Sook-yin Lee in "Shortbus"
    Moulder in "The X-Files"
    Octavian in "Rome"

    ESTp
    Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"
    Protagonist in "Crank"
    Aaron Eckhart in "Thank-you for Smoking"
    Zoe in "Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Jayne in "Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Starbuck in "Battlestar Galactica"
    Mark Antony in "Rome"
    Annie in "The Invisible"
    Keira Knightley in "Pirates of the Carribean 3"

    INFp
    Cate Blanchette in "Notes on a Scandal"
    Stephane in "The Science of Sleep"
    Protagonist in "Art School Confidential"
    Daniel Day-Lewis in "The Age of Innocence"
    Fergus in "The Crying Game"
    Hayden Christenson in "Shattered Glass"
    Bettie Page in "The Notorious Bettie Page"
    Gwyneth Paltrow in "Proof"
    Johnny Depp in "The Libertine"
    Naomi Watts in "Stay"
    Wash in ""Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Claire in "Six Feet Under"
    Ghandi(Ben Kingsley) in "Ghandi"
    Protagonist in "The Invisible"

    ENFj
    Hedwig in "Hedwig and the Angry Inch"
    Leonardo DiCaprio in "The Aviator"
    Sam Lowry in "Brazil"
    Billy Crudup in "Stage Beauty"
    Robert Downey Jr. in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
    President Laura Roslin in "Battlestar Galactica"
    Georg Dreyman in "The Lives of Others" (German)

    ISTj
    Jill in "Brazil"
    Tom Cruise in "Collateral"
    Scully in "The X-Files"
    Admiral Adama in "Battlestar Galactica"
    Lucius Vorenus in "Rome"

    ESFp
    Forest Whitaker in "The Crying Game"
    Kate Winslet in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"
    Captain Mal in "Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Nate in "Six Feet Under"
    Titus Pullo in "Rome"
    Atia in "Rome"
    Julius Caesar in "Rome"

    INTp
    Judi Dench in "Notes on a Scandal"
    Julia Roberts in "Closer"
    Protagonist in "The Quiet Earth"
    Jim Carey in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"
    Inara in "Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Cicero in "Rome"

    ENTj
    Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth"
    Clive Owen in "Closer"
    Clive Owen in "Children of Men"

    ISFj
    Servilia in Rome

    ESTj
    Claire (the sister) in "Proof"
    Jodie Foster in "Flightplan"
    Kaylee in "Firefly" & "Serenity"
    Colenel Saul in "Battlestar Galactica"

    INFj
    Harmony in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
    Ryan Gosling in "Stay"
    Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood"
    Simon in "Firefly" & "Serenity"

    ENFp
    Lola in "Run Lola Run"
    Jude Law in "Closer"

    ISTp
    James in "Shortbus"
    Joaquin Phoenix in "Buffalo Soldiers"


    DUALITY
    ENTp x ISFp in "Secretary"
    ESTp x INFp in "Firefly" and "Serenity"
    ESFp x INTp in "Firefly and "Serenity"
    ESTj x INFj in "Firefly and Serenity"
    ENFj x ISTj in "Battlestar Galactica"
    ENFj x ISTj in "Brazil"
    ESFp x INTp in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"

    CONFLICT
    INFp x ESTj in "Proof"
    INFp-Ni

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    INTj: Moulder in "The X-Files"
    Nah, probably ENFp (conflict with Scully's ISTj).

    ESTp: Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"
    Sounds right. Se dominant, at least.

    INFp: Gwyneth Paltrow in "Proof"
    ESTj: Claire (the sister) in "Proof"
    I thought INTp-ESFj. Certainly Conflict, at any rate. Reminds me of my brother and sister.

    As I recall, her sister was constantly pressuring her to go out and be more social - Fe-type stuff.

    ESFp: Kate Winslet in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"
    INTp: Jim Carey in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"
    I thought ENFp for her - see http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...ernal+sunshine for details. (I haven't seen it for a while.)

    ENTj: Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth"
    ISTj? That was some over-the-top Se, methinks. Plus, the unwavering nature of his rules was more Ti than Te.


    I can't say about the rest of them. Maybe I'll do a post like this; I'm quite the IMDb addict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    ENTj: Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth"
    ISTj? That was some over-the-top Se, methinks. Plus, the unwavering nature of his rules was more Ti than Te.
    Yes. I agree with ISTj for Captain Vidal in Pan's Labyrinth.

    O, and what about..
    The Illusionist
    ISTj for the Crown Prince
    INTp
    sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    ENTj: Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth"
    ISTj? That was some over-the-top Se, methinks. Plus, the unwavering nature of his rules was more Ti than Te.
    Yes. I agree with ISTj for Captain Vidal in Pan's Labyrinth.

    O, and what about..
    The Illusionist
    ISTj for the Crown Prince
    lol I typed the crown prince as ENTj actually! I still see unhealthy ENTj for Vidal too. When ISTjs get unhealthy they don't organize people like that. They're less likely to maintain such status above all else, let alone "play the game". Remember that both characters, despite their degrading mental conditions, were still quite brilliant in regards to getting people to do what they wanted - like really, the only reason they fail is because it's a movie and supernatural circumstances screw them over. I see both characters as Fe POLR
    INFp-Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    INTj: Moulder in "The X-Files"
    Nah, probably ENFp (conflict with Scully's ISTj).
    conflict with scully? are you sure? they did pretty well together for the most part. Also i really don't see Moulder as ethical type, how often does he talk about his feelings? i've only seen up to season 5 but the fact that it made it that far hints away from any type of conflicting relations

    INFp: Gwyneth Paltrow in "Proof"
    ESTj: Claire (the sister) in "Proof"
    I thought INTp-ESFj. Certainly Conflict, at any rate. Reminds me of my brother and sister.

    As I recall, her sister was constantly pressuring her to go out and be more social - Fe-type stuff.
    Her sister kept a detailed list of everything she had to do. She took the role of selling the house and taking gwyneth's character with her - there was no Fe there. Gwyneth also had lack of confidence in her logical ability - as did EVERYONE else, thus they doubted her ability to be a genius. INTps generally earn respect for they intellect, especially from those near to them, from an early age. Her sister was definitely Sensory subtype while she was intuitive subtype. Fe-type stuff is more like causing an emotional scene and/or emotionally consoling others, her sister did not have that ability. By "go out" she meant "let's go buy clothes and you'll be happy!" Fe is my second function so I'm confident in noticing it

    ESFp: Kate Winslet in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"
    INTp: Jim Carey in "Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"

    I thought ENFp for her - see http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...ernal+sunshine for details. (I haven't seen it for a while.)
    I'm still not completely sure about this one....... thanks for bringing it up!

    I can't say about the rest of them. Maybe I'll do a post like this; I'm quite the IMDb addict.
    definitely do! I find that making big individual compilations like this is the best way to do it. When people just post in a thread "this person is xxxx" it's frustrating cuz I always want to ask "what other characters would you say are xxxx?"
    INFp-Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    INTj: Moulder in "The X-Files"
    Nah, probably ENFp (conflict with Scully's ISTj).
    conflict with scully? are you sure? they did pretty well together for the most part. Also i really don't see Moulder as ethical type, how often does he talk about his feelings? i've only seen up to season 5 but the fact that it made it that far hints away from any type of conflicting relations
    Hm, she could be ESTj. In fact that's more probable. She is usually frustrated with Mulder, and that could apply to activity relations. As for Mulder being ethical, he struck me as not having Ti. More likely extroverted than introverted - he's usually the one taking the initiative in searching and whatnot. (I only watch this show casually.)

    INFp: Gwyneth Paltrow in "Proof"
    ESTj: Claire (the sister) in "Proof"
    I thought INTp-ESFj. Certainly Conflict, at any rate. Reminds me of my brother and sister.

    As I recall, her sister was constantly pressuring her to go out and be more social - Fe-type stuff.
    Her sister kept a detailed list of everything she had to do. She took the role of selling the house and taking gwyneth's character with her - there was no Fe there. Gwyneth also had lack of confidence in her logical ability - as did EVERYONE else, thus they doubted her ability to be a genius. INTps generally earn respect for they intellect, especially from those near to them, from an early age. Her sister was definitely Sensory subtype while she was intuitive subtype. Fe-type stuff is more like causing an emotional scene and/or emotionally consoling others, her sister did not have that ability. By "go out" she meant "let's go buy clothes and you'll be happy!" Fe is my second function so I'm confident in noticing it
    Ok, that sounds good.

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    good job here; you've compiled a sizable list without one movie i've ever seen.

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    Matt Damon in "The Good Shepherd" IMO ENTj, intjs give off an impression of being more corrupt than entjs. extjs are very goodie goodie always trying to do the right thing at the right time.

    Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth" probably ESFj. A entj that doesn't believe/discourages mysticism?poppycock! Also he always seemed to pick things up, handle them, smell them etc. I think the film was made from a INXp position. And if he was a entj, he would have been seen as the bad guy who isn't really a bad guy or turns out nice in the end(from a inxp point of view).

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    Quote Originally Posted by electric
    Captain Vidal in "Pan's Labyrinth" probably ESFj. A entj that doesn't believe/discourages mysticism?poppycock! Also he always seemed to pick things up, handle them, smell them etc. I think the film was made from a INXp position. And if he was a entj, he would have been seen as the bad guy who isn't really a bad guy or turns out nice in the end(from a inxp point of view).
    ?

    I'm not sure what to make of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electric
    Matt Damon in "The Good Shepherd" IMO ENTj, intjs give off an impression of being more corrupt than entjs. extjs are very goodie goodie always trying to do the right thing at the right time.
    he really doesn't talk that much. the way he deals with feelings is more INTj in my opinion, he doesn't really know to express them but does so by i.e. giving the present to his kid. also intjs definitely don't give the impression of being corrupt to me, if anything they have an inherent quiet 'nobility' about them. they're loyal and comfortable with secrets, they aren't overly ambitious. an ENTj secret service person would be working much higher up the ladder, making ambitious social connections whilst compiling more information than anyone else is aware exists. I get the impression from ENTjs that they aren't content just doing something on their own, my uncle for example told me he enjoys teaching a person below him in the company all the tricks of the trade etc. and then taking pride in watching that person's career rise
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    good job here; you've compiled a sizable list without one movie i've ever seen.
    jesus christ almighty in polk-a-dot panties on a polyester cross, get your ass in gear, download bitcomet, go to torrentspy and start your cinematic adventure IMMEDIATELY! ! !
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    i cant analyze made up character for their type too deeply, but this was fun to read
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    [21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
    [21:29] hitta: and not dying
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    ESTp: Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"
    Sounds right. Se dominant, at least.
    I think that is right. Now I wonder what type the "Bond girl" was. INFp perhaps? They had such a dramatic relationship full of big emotions, betrayal, love and hate and ending up in a suicide of the girl which made me think, "hey that's a pretty stereotypical ESTp/INFp pair".

    And what type was Bond's boss? Some Te type perhaps?

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    I thought Vesper was ISTj. I can't remember the movie now at all, so don't ask me why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    ESTp: Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"
    Sounds right. Se dominant, at least.
    I think that is right. Now I wonder what type the "Bond girl" was. INFp perhaps? They had such a dramatic relationship full of big emotions, betrayal, love and hate and ending up in a suicide of the girl which made me think, "hey that's a pretty stereotypical ESTp/INFp pair".

    And what type was Bond's boss? Some Te type perhaps?

    i thought the romance was freaking IDEAL until i saw the end. so now i cant tell if she was faking at first and THEN genuine, or just faking all together.

    but anyways, i think craig's james bond beats sean connery's just BARELY. and thats saying a lot coming from me. he was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sexxxxyy and bad ass and just all around sextacular. rawr! i loved the whole armor thing
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    Wow, this topic is totally synchronistic for me...

    Anyway, what do y'all think about Code 46? Tim Robbins and Samantha Morton have a very intriguing interaction in this movie; I would hazard a guess at INTp/ESFp duality.
    INTp, ILI Logical subtype

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    Also bumped.

    Perhaps people could update the list in the opening post.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
    If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.

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    ~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    ESTp: Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale"
    Sounds right. Se dominant, at least.
    I think that is right. Now I wonder what type the "Bond girl" was. INFp perhaps? They had such a dramatic relationship full of big emotions, betrayal, love and hate and ending up in a suicide of the girl which made me think, "hey that's a pretty stereotypical ESTp/INFp pair".

    And what type was Bond's boss? Some Te type perhaps?
    I think they were more like an ISTj-ENFj dual couple. Vesper was ENFj, not INFp imo. But I think that ESTp-INFp is second best. They'd be Se-ISTj and Ni-ENFj, so the line is less clear.

    "M" was ENTj.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    Also bumped.

    Perhaps people could update the list in the opening post.
    I added a few more!
    INFp-Ni

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    In the movie before sunrise I think it is ENTp and ISFp duality. Not so sure on the ENTp but the ISFp I am rather sure with (celine I think her name is)

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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    INTj
    Matt Damon in "The Good Shepherd"
    I just finished watching the film. I thought of the character as a possible INTj so it was interesting that you also typed him that way.

    In this thread, however:
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    For a good portrayal of what many ESTjs are like , Matt Damon's character in The Good Shepherd - and please note that I am talking about the character, not Damon himself.
    What do you think? Why INTj / why ESTj?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas05
    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    INTj
    Matt Damon in "The Good Shepherd"
    I just finished watching the film. I thought of the character as a possible INTj so it was interesting that you also typed him that way.

    In this thread, however:
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    For a good portrayal of what many ESTjs are like , Matt Damon's character in The Good Shepherd - and please note that I am talking about the character, not Damon himself.
    What do you think? Why INTj / why ESTj?
    Everything. He's very low on Fe and higher on Fi; very low on Ni and high on Si - he doesn't seem to ever think about his life in the longer term, he just does what has to be done and takes the job he's offered and does his duty. He does not give off Fe nor does he seem to need it. His relationship with the deaf girl is a stereotypical ESTj-INFj one. He's not overly Se in demeanor but can use it if necessary. Even his main hobby - ships in bottles - is a Si hobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    He does not give off Fe nor does he seem to need it.
    Is his wife a type?

    If so, the first scenes where Edward and his wife-to-be meet are showing dual seeking function for Edward, aren't they? I mean, when others are dancing, Edward just waits for someone to ask him dance (= give him some ), and then she actually does that.
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    I saw the film Muriel's Wedding on TV for the second time a few days ago - its cheesy but I like it - I think Muriel might be a ISFp, and Rhonda could possibly be dominant, but I don't really know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas05
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    He does not give off Fe nor does he seem to need it.
    Is his wife a type?
    I thought she was more ESFp or Se-ISFj.

    Quote Originally Posted by jas05
    If so, the first scenes where Edward and his wife-to-be meet are showing dual seeking function for Edward, aren't they? I mean, when others are dancing, Edward just waits for someone to ask him dance (= give him some ), and then she actually does that.
    You don't know that he was particularly waiting for someone to ask him to dance. And rather than , to me that was a case of . She wanted him, she went after him. Anyway, let's not analyze every bit of the move as if it was real people.
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    He does not give off Fe nor does he seem to need it.
    Is his wife a type?
    I thought she was more ESFp or Se-ISFj.

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    If so, the first scenes where Edward and his wife-to-be meet are showing dual seeking function for Edward, aren't they? I mean, when others are dancing, Edward just waits for someone to ask him dance (= give him some ), and then she actually does that.
    You don't know that he was particularly waiting for someone to ask him to dance. And rather than , to me that was a case of . She wanted him, she went after him. Anyway, let's not analyze every bit of the move as if it was real people.
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    If so, the first scenes where Edward and his wife-to-be meet are showing dual seeking function for Edward, aren't they? I mean, when others are dancing, Edward just waits for someone to ask him dance (= give him some ), and then she actually does that.
    You don't know that he was particularly waiting for someone to ask him to dance. And rather than , to me that was a case of . She wanted him, she went after him. Anyway, let's not analyze every bit of the move as if it was real people.
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    V for Vendetta
    Run Lola Run (Lola Rennt)
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
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    I'm stealing run lola run and the fifth element for alpha

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    V for Vendetta is an extremely beta movie. the character of V is probably EIE; the girl (whatever her name was) might be IEI. it's all about overcoming obstacles and pain to overthrow a corrupt dictatorship -- a greater cause. the setting is also futuristic and completely oriented towards Ni in terms of the way that it's structured; it's completely
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    What I saw of it struck me as rather caricature and unrealistic though. So I had thought - maybe the movie was an alpha perception of a beta scenario. I don't know enough about who wrote and directed it to say though.
    as did i; i was thinking "this is so unrealistic."

    i saw that as an Ni kind of vision of the way the world will be like, without much focus on actually being a practical or realistic interpretation - more a dramatic one which allows a focus on the sort of overcoming obstacles.

    oversimplified, Ni without Te.

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    I think Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a Delta movie, and I Am Legend a Gamma film in the daytime, a Beta film at night. Apart from that, I agree with esper.

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    All the Betas I know LOVE V for Vendetta


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    V for Vendetta - beta/gamma
    Run Lola Run (Lola Rennt) ...
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ...
    The Fifth Element - alpha
    The Invisible ...
    I am Legend - delta
    Serenity - gamma?

    Most sure about The Fifth Flement. Chilled out dude againsts an opressive practical order. I am Legend was cool.
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    what about shawshank redemption's andy dufrense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    All the Betas I know LOVE V for Vendetta
    also all gammas

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    I thought V for Vendetta was unrealistic and a waste of time, since it did not describe revolution realistically. It was more like a fairy tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I thought V for Vendetta was unrealistic and a waste of time, since it did not describe revolution realistically. It was more like a fairy tale.
    but the point of the movie wasn't to be realistic, the unrealistic movies I don't like are the ones that try to look realistic but are actually fairy tale, like "the social network". usually I am more interested in political theories than a realistic sensory outlook to the world.
    I also liked Harry Potter a lot (and still do), but you probably don't like that as well

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