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    the actor.








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    i thought you meant gary oldman the tree.

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    reviving this.

    INFp?


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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    i thought you meant gary oldman the tree.
    lmao oh god

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    Not really sure but extraverted? I can can see Sensor as well, so it is a tie between ST and extravert. Don't know anything about him nor paid attention at all, though.

    I never do.

    If not any of those above, thn I'm going to have to pay attention, actually.

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    SLI?

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    I used to think he was INTj but lately I'm thinking more ISTj
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    delta st, infp, ixtj...

    come on people.

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    He's a crazy ENTj.

    You can see it on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverthesame View Post
    He's a crazy ENTj.

    You can see it on his face.
    Yes, ENTJ is a good typing. I agree.
    Last edited by Nowisthetime; 07-19-2012 at 06:43 PM.

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    lol I wasn't thinking he was my dual but he's sexy.

    first person to give reasoned justification that isn't embarrassingly horrible wins.

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    Bwahaha. Socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    lol I wasn't thinking he was my dual but he's sexy.

    first person to give reasoned justification that isn't embarrassingly horrible wins.
    It's not possible to give justifications (for me at least). You look at him talking and you see LIE. How do you know someone is a man or a woman? Even when the man has long hair and the woman short etc. It's just based on years of experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    It's not possible to give justifications (for me at least). You look at him talking and you see LIE. How do you know someone is a man or a woman? Even when the man has long hair and the woman short etc. It's just based on years of experience.
    i understand, but i think you can also understand why there's no particular reason for me to take anybody's word for it, shrug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i understand, but i think you can also understand why there's no particular reason for me to take anybody's word for it, shrug.
    Yes, of course. Unless you want to see me as an authority, who cannot be wrong, lol

    But even if someone gave justifications, they can sound good, but still be wrong. Typing is just based on having an eye for types, it's very frustrating but that's how it is.

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    I'm not that familliar with him, so I'm really trying to nail down the options off of the little I've seen, I'd guess or ego.. gamma or alpha.. possibly LSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diam0nd View Post
    I'm not that familliar with him, so I'm really trying to nail down the options off of the little I've seen, I'd guess or ego.. gamma or alpha.. possibly LSI.
    Now it got even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i understand, but i think you can also understand why there's no particular reason for me to take anybody's word for it, shrug.
    Why? If you knew for sure he's LIE, would you find him more attractive? Or if you knew with certainty he's not LIE, you wouldn't find him sexy anymore? Is that it? If that's the case, I find it funny how you mind (and maybe others' too) works.

    Typing is based on a lot of experience and a great intuition (which gets better with time and years of practice). Of course, you can be believed or not. Basically, in the great scheme of things and in life in general, typing skills are a quite useless ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverthesame View Post
    Why? If you knew for sure he's LIE, would you find him more attractive? Or if you knew with certainty he's not LIE, you wouldn't find him sexy anymore? Is that it? If that's the case, I find it funny how you mind (and maybe others' too) works.

    Typing is based on a lot of experience and a great intuition (which gets better with time and years of practice). Of course, you can be believed or not. Basically, in the great scheme of things and in life in general, typing skills are a quite useless ability.
    I have no idea how any of this has anything to do whatsoever with what I said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    INFP
    Maybe in MBTI

    But he's very certainly an ST, judging from his introverted gaze similar to that of johnny depp



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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    i thought you meant gary oldman the tree.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Checked out his biography and detected a lot of connections to Beta. Featured in Shakespeare (EIE) plays, read Beethoven (also Beta NF), friends with Kiefer Sutherland (EIE) and associated with Alec Baldwin (LSI), praised by Anthony Hopkins (SLE) and Benedict Cumberbatch (Beta NF), was considered to play Morpheus (EIE), was in David Bowie's (EIE) music video and was friends with him, starred in Batman (who's LSI), will play Winston Churchill (SLE) in his next movie etc.

    Known for playing "psychos and villains", was instantly typecast as a criminal when entering Hollywood. Known for significant overacting and broad array of characters, accents. Strength is intensity and versatility, declared as best British actor of our generation and fantastic chameleon on screen.

    Problems with alcohol and settling down (was married four!! times). Lost too much weight for a role once and got hospitalized. Pattern of controversies: Drunk driving, political correctness and attacking Hollywood with its institutions, domestic violence, drug addiction.

    We got ourselves an EIE-Ni here.

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    How about ILI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    i thought you meant gary oldman the tree.
    Or...


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    Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Whatever he is, his latest wife (#5), Canadian art curator Giselle Schmidt is an obvious ISFj. He was in a very volatile and emotionally explosive marriage with Donya (forgot her last name) I think in the 90’s, who looks a lot like a Beta NF.

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    Well, if I called Nancy Pelosi a c- -t — and I’ll go one better, a f–king useless c- -t — I can’t really say that. But Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can, and nobody’s going to stop them from working because of it. Bill Maher could call someone a f-g and get away with it.”
    Seems anti Fi. Can see Gamma/Beta for him.

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    EIE af

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    He is such a versatile actor. He’s been in parts before and I didn’t even realize it was him until much later. He has to be an EIE, has to be.
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    I recently typed him, but I can't especially remember my reasoning.

    I type him IEI. He seems to have been much of a hellrazer when he was younger, getting into trouble with the cops with Keifer Sutherland, and he had an early divorce too, but he's still on good terms with his former wife. That suggests to me he's irrational and a NF club type. He described himself as shy when he was younger too. (I type Kiefer Sutherland ILE>IEE btw, but some people object to my manner of typing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    I recently typed him, but I can't especially remember my reasoning.

    I type him IEI. He seems to have been much of a hellrazer when he was younger, getting into trouble with the cops with Keifer Sutherland, and he had an early divorce too, but he's still on good terms with his former wife. That suggests to me he's irrational and a NF club type. He described himself as shy when he was younger too. (I type Kiefer Sutherland ILE>IEE btw, but some people object to my manner of typing).
    I also wondered IEI for him. You prob know more about him than I do, and I actually trust your opinion over mine here

    maybe he is IEI
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    IEI
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    I also wondered IEI for him. You prob know more about him than I do, and I actually trust your opinion over mine here

    maybe he is IEI
    I probably don't have a better impression of him than other people here, but I think I have an edge because I try to ask and find an answer to often straightforward questions like "Is this guy an extrovert/introvert/ambivert?", "Is he impulsive or more deliberate?" Of course people will disagree with what extent such questions have on Socionics types as well as my answers, but at least if I give a rationale people can say "He doesn't have x behaviour", "You place too much significance on y", "That's irrelevant to Socionics type" etc.

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