And all of his movies.
He strikes me as someone I really don't like.
What type do you think he is, and how does that influence his movies?
Quentin Tarantino
And all of his movies.
He strikes me as someone I really don't like.
What type do you think he is, and how does that influence his movies?
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
There seems to be some sort of consensus that he is an ENTj, and I don't dispute that. What is it that you don't like about him and his movies?
i actually was looking at some boring interviews of him simply because i wanted to see rick's basis for changing his type. he looked very emotionally expressive in what little i saw of him.
i, however, know almost nothing about the guy and so am probably highly unfit to dispute those that say LIE.
He just has different values and interests and appreciations than I do. I could never be him. I disagree, more so than usual, with his idea of "art", or entertainment for that matter.
It's all personal opinion, I just have always found him exceptionally annoying, standing out from the crowd.
I just saw a preview for two of his new movies that are coming out. It ... reminds me of someone who is similar to me, but is going in a different direction.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
imo this is probably a pretty decent description of INTj/ENTj dynamicsOriginally Posted by UDP III
I think that is only so, however, if someone is going in a direction I do not really agree with. I don't think it has anything to do with type alone, but I can see ENTjs being a type I easily feel dichotomous about: that is to say, they are generally either people I support and agree with, (even in terms of Se HA and Si polr), or someone who I just do not.
An ENTj I know in person that falls into the first category is my Accounting teacher. His Fe role is strong and loud, but humorous to me, and I respect his dual seeking Fi.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I'm rather interested in the relations between him and Uma Thurman since they seemed to have a tight partnership in his movies. I think Thurman's EII. I find his movies violent, but not repulsive.
i like some of his movies, but he got to the point of over-doing himself.
pulp fiction is a classic though. one of my all time faves.
i would say that tarantino is some kind of beta NF.
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those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Quentin Tarantino is Se ESTp.
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The end is nigh
Beta extrovert is most likely IMO, although I will admit that there are some things about his facial expressions that remind me of Expat. Could be just EJ temperament/Si PoLR.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Ni-ENTj perhaps. He's a jerk but a very talented one.
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EIE or IEI, one of those.
wtf. Why can he not be a sensing type?
lol, dude its obvious he is Pe Ep. Hes a forkin nut. His manner is sharp, direct, and kinda intimidating. Pretty obvious he'd conflict with INFj
god just watch:
"The rogue artist who revels in his or her own naughtiness, likes to shock and appall audiences, and doesn't take his own work too seriously."
and now you will post, "Yes Archon, you were right. i now see how he is Se leading, Ep temperament, and Beta. Thank you."
edit: how the fuck is he not Mercutio's identical? or JWC3? seriously i dont get it.
The end is nigh
Quentin Tarantino movies
Pulp Fiction
Jules Winnifield: EIE-Fe, 7w8 sx/so (ENTP)
Vincent Vega: LSI-Se, 5w4 sp/sx (ISTP)
Mia Wallace: EIE-Fe, 7w8 sx/sp (ENFP)
Butch Coolidge: SLE-Se, 3w2 sp/sx (ESTP)
Fabienne: IEI-Ni, 2w1 sx/so (INFP)
Marcellus Wallace: LIE-Te, 8w9 sp/so (ENTJ)
Jimmy: EII-Fi, 9w8 sx/so (ISFJ)
Winston Wolf: SLE-Ti, 1w2 so/sp (ENTJ)
Cal Lightman (Ringo): SEE-Se, 8w7 sx/sp (ESFP)
Yolanda: ESI-Se, 7w8 sx/sp (ESFP)
Lance: ESE-Si, 7w8 so/sx (ESTP)
Kill Bill
Beatrix Kiddo: ESI-Se, 6w7 sp/sx (ENTJ)
Bill: ILE-Ti, 8w7 sx/sp (ENTP)
Hattori Hanzo: EII-Ne, 1w2 sx/so (INFJ)
Vernita Green: SEE-Se, 6w7 sp/so (ESTP)
O-Ren Ishii: LSI-Se, 8w9 sp/so (INTJ)
Gogo: SLE-Se, 7w8 sx/sp (ESTP)
Elle Driver: SLE-Se, 3w4 sx/so (ESTP)
Budd: LSI-Ti, 5w6 sp/sx (ISTP)
Pai Mei: LSI-Se, 1w2 sp/so (ISTJ)
Tarantino himself: EIE-Ni.
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, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
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I see both Mia and Beatrix as SLE. I haven't deeply analyzed the characters but based off common stereotypes I got the ESTP vibe.
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Jackie Brown: ESI (or LSI as an interesting alternative).
Max Cherry: Gamma NT.
Rservoir Dogs
Joe Cabot: SLE (definition of commanding presence)
Mr. Pink: ILI (the one who spoke out against the Betas collective moral code / group-consensus regarding tipping the waitresses).
Mr. Brown / Quentin Tarantino: SEE (most of what he says is purely for impact).
Activity relations:
Nice Guy Eddie: EIE
Mr. Blonde: SLE
Mr. White: LSI
Mr. Orange: IEI
Most of these are probably equal to the real-life actors.
I saw the last half of Pulp Fiction again and there were some really funny relationship scenes.
Vincent: IEE
Jules: SLE (maybe EIE)
Winston Wolf: LSI
Marcellus: some Si type
Notice how Jules thinks Wolf is a cool guy, but Vincent thinks he's a jerk? He gets pissed off when Wolf starts issuing orders and stuff. Vincent also is really skeptical of Jules'
I didn't really get a read on the other characters, but I think Jimmy is just QT trying to be cool.
Django
Django: ESI-Se
Dr. Schultz - ILE
Calvin Candie - SEE
Stephen - LSI?
Broomhilda - SEI
People have said I remind them of Beatrix from Kill Bill. I'm not sure how much I like or dislike that.
Hans Landa?
I love his movies...the violence does not feel real to me. It is just entertainment. I also love Oliver Stone movies. They have a similar vibe style for me.
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Lololololololol @Legerdemain (damnit sry @transaerodemain) and I were watching this last night and talking about how Butch and Fabienne were *exactly* like us. Like, the scene with them when they were telling each other how much they loved each other was extra impactful because it was like watching the two of us on screen.
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Tarantino
I know there are other threads on him, but they weren't very helpful.
He's very obviously an extrovert and, to me at least, seems perceiving. I've heard people say he's ENTj but I just don't see it. Thoughts?
Maybe you're doing insufficient amounts of nose candy to understand him properly.
eie imo
People don't know sh** about serious types. He's about as EP,and merry as you can get. Just look at his temperament and how he's speaking/acting. Probably ESTp > ENTp, decisive > judicious.
In fact he looks like an LIE, IMO. But that's that, I type him IEI.
ESTp isn't a bad typing at all IMO. ENFj isn't bad either but he just seems much more flexible and adaptable based on his general temperament for me to see him as anything but a perceiving type. I think IEI is not a very good typing...I don't mean to be offensive or anything, I just think it's rather unlikely.
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Can't be anything but Beta, watching his movies tells it all.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
He's too akward to be SLE. And besides, his energy levels point to Ej temperament. I'd say LIE or EIE but I tend to see the Fe role..
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His energy level points to pronounced Extroversion. He is too awkward to be an Ethical type; have you ever met an SLE computer nerd before? Can you not see this guy just ripping into motherfuckers on 4chan?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Yes, I met one yesterday, actually and he was nothing like Tarantino. I was going to purchase an LCD cable for a laptop and he gave me the wrong one but since I said it in front of his colleages, he felt the "punch to his ego" and started to compete with me saying that the model I was claiming about didn't exist, as if he knew everything (it does by the way, but since I couldn't care less about proving it, I simply said nothing). Many computer nerds are always trying to show off (Fe HA), that's how you spot them being ExTp. And he was a jerk. If you ask me, which of these two hidden agendas is more likely for Tarantino: Fe or Se, I would pick the latter.
And about energy levels, the difference between Ej and Ep temperament is fluctuation. Ej types are high on energy and pretty stable (like Tarantino), Ep types are not always displaying such high levels.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
I agree EPs tend to fluctuate in their energy, but it doesn't mean they are not generally high-energy. Who knows what Tarantino is like behind the scenes? None of us. But he definitely does not always showcase the overtly nervous energy he seems to have in that Letterman interview. In fact I would say manifesting that level of energy in such an open way, and not being more controlled/harnessed, is a big point against EJ temperament.
For a good example of EJ temperament, watch this interview of Bill Clinton:
Even when he is obviously getting agitated and excited, he never loses his composure, everything he says always seems very precisely calculated and well put-together.
For another example, look at Christopher Hitchens, LSE. If you watch interviews where he gets pissed off, you will see he is very composed, despite being obviously super pissed, right up too the point of actually losing his shit, in which case he completely explodes. Tarantino is much more sort of lackadaisical and casual feeling; even though he is very rapid and direct, you can tell he is just talking off the top of his head, not being as careful and deliberate about how he says what he says, or generally how he presents himself.
Oh, and if you are going to incorporate your personal experience in discussions, please try to be a little more objective about it...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I tend to like his movies, even the ones that I don't like as a whole I can appreciate parts or aspects of them. He used to sort of weird me out but I think that's because of the roles he plays as an actor, but actually hearing him talk about films and stuff he seems not so bad after all. Still, he sort of butchered Iron Monkey in directing its transition, and I'm still butthurt about that.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
when i saw kill bill i felt like i learned a little about the concept of se via osmosis. not seeing a judicious type. between estp and entj, his energy is more ep but i could see an argument for si polr there too and im partial. havent ever watched an interview with his type in mind or anything and don't feel like giving it more thought than this.
lol @ gillys 4chan comment
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