Rediculing peoples weaknesses for fun? I'd never do that shit for the most part because it is not fun ... maybe sadistic, but not in the least fun.
Rediculing peoples weaknesses for fun? I'd never do that shit for the most part because it is not fun ... maybe sadistic, but not in the least fun.
They might not be saints, but it's not typical humor for delta and it does not really matter how it compares to other forms of humor. I think we can attribute certain kinds of humor to quadras and I don't know a single INFj or ENFp who jokes like that. I am not even bitching about the joke per se right now, but it really goes against what I perceive NeFi and FiNe to stand for. And sure, environment shapes us, but if we want to bring this up every time we type, we might as well abandon Socionics altogether.Originally Posted by anndelise
What do you mean by worse jokes?
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
oh please! you call that insulting! to whom exactly? now i'm really wondering if i've stepped into an Amish forum! pansies!
IEI - the nasty kind...
are you honestly going to sit there and tell me you have NEVER made fun of ANY person at all??? not even in your own head??Originally Posted by rmcnew
also that you have NEVER told your friends a joke about someone else?
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Everyone does it... they just go about it in different ways.
long live beta... where people aren't stuck up!
IEI - the nasty kind...
Originally Posted by fingercuffs
YOU GOT IT!!!
I never said that I have not ever done this ... I probably have. Only that I really do not find it very fun and therefore do not do it alot for that reason. I usually end up feeling sorry that I have done so and recant.Originally Posted by anndelise
YOU ARE BETA!Originally Posted by fingercuffs
I was making an argument, calm down.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Delta STs (males) are pretty bad when it comes to toilet humor. Almost as nasty as the toilet humor from Beta STs.Originally Posted by Kim
Delta NFs hanging out with either of them can be just as bad (will probably beat themselves up about it afterwards, though).
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
If I felt like it wouldn't hurt the feelings of the person whom I was teasing, I wouldn't have any problem telling a joke like that. And I think it was obvious that fingercuffs wouldn't be hurt by that joke.
Anyway, that's one Delta NF's take on that.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
i think you guys are missing alot of info and shouldn't judge her so. if it were about me, i'd prolly be laughing my ass off right now. but it isn't. and i seriously doubt she enjoys your higher-than-thou assumptions concerning the purity of her deltaness. don't worry. i'm sure she is way more saintly than you guys could ever expect to be.
IEI - the nasty kind...
hmmm, don't saints become saints by being martyrs???Originally Posted by fingercuffs
how could you wish such a thing on fever!!!!
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Is that so unusual? Sad.Originally Posted by anndelise
I, personally, have never ridiculed a person's weakness in front of an audience for the sake of making them laugh or appearing cool ( ). And that is what I am talking about when I say it's beta style. They will also be the ones who think you are pathetic when you say it's hurtful.
And this is not about whether or not the joke is bad, blablabla. I just cannot relate to it at all. Call me a saint.
:wink:
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
It is about HUMOR as it relates to QUADRAS! There is no judgment or "bad bad fever" involved here. At least not on my part. Ok?Originally Posted by fingercuffs
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
I actually meant that she is making fun of the guy in the picture. But please let's not get into that whole spiel now...I was merely trying to say that that sort of humor strikes me as beta>delta. And I have no problem with fever being delta, a saint, or a sweetheart.Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
you can't pretend you didn't find that fat guy disgustingly funny for at least half a second? i did and i'm potentially ENFp.
IEI - the nasty kind...
I'd personally only worry about the guy in the picture if a) it didn't look like he had posed for the photo and b) there was a realistic chance of him coming across it here.
I think that joke wasn't any particular quadra's style of humor. Maybe more a teenage-ish joke than a joke for people our age, but not really type related. IMO.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Originally Posted by fever
i had intially read it as
"I'm an ESTp and my jazz (thinking jizz) is always on the toilet!"
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
damn...
maybe it's time for a real type poll... one that lists all of the ethical types, perhaps...
Hahaha, Fever and Fingercuffs are entertaining and hilarious to the point of complete awesomeness!!!!
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
sit and spin lolOriginally Posted by little red riding hood
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
I actually find it funny and don't think it's distasteful. Delta NFs do joke at the expense of other people, but they don't let it get out of hand to the extent that the person ends up humiliated. Anyway, people seem to have a stereotypical image of INFjs been nice and boring people.Originally Posted by anndelise
Originally Posted by eunice
slightly off topic, but about infj jokes
my mother was a nurse, and some of the things she'd tell us kids were hilarious...and disgusting....and yes, were designed around someone else's "weaknesses" (medical related, panic related, mental health related, etc.) this woman finds humor in all sorts of things
but i swear, i'm always surprised when she tosses a humorous story or joke out....cuz i can't believe this normally quiet and compassionate woman can even have such thoughts.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Gosh, I don't mean to sound like a horrible prude or nothing but I have NEVER made fun of any person at all. I find it an absolutely objectionable action for me personally to engage in. It is like laughing at another person's weakness and that has never been cool with me, even as a child I thought it was very wrong.Originally Posted by anndelise
Some ESTjs have a horrible (IMO)habit of making fun of others from what I have seen ...and they are delta.
Socionics: XNFx
MBTI: INFJ
Fever is actually a very cool and funny girl though and people have different ideas of what is funny/acceptable humour.
Socionics: XNFx
MBTI: INFJ
obviously a lie.Originally Posted by Megan
i cannot for the life of me conceive a life in which more than 75% of the humour of life is null and void
to not giggle when watching a love-struck teen bonk his head cuz he was too busy looking at the girl of his dreams instead of watching where he was going
to not joke with my friend about the time when she walked into a busy intersection while her nose was within the pages of an interesting book (it's a horrid fascination to watch.....but the relief of her not being hurt brings on the giggles)
speaking of relief.....
what would it be like to not use humour to relieve stressful situations in which one's weaknesses have placed one's self????
i guess i just value humour too much
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nah.....
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
I think the above examples of humour you gave are a bit different from the sort of "making fun of others" thing I was thinking of.Originally Posted by anndelise
Socionics: XNFx
MBTI: INFJ
Toilet humor is a different category of humor than this:Originally Posted by anndelise
But anyway, perhaps it's not type-related and my post was worthless, which is entirely possible.ridicule a person's weakness in front of an audience for the sake of making them laugh or appearing cool ( Extraverted Feeling ).
What I find amusing is the "no way that you don't do as I do" attitude in this thread.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Heavy sarcasm is a negativist trait, IME.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Guilty.Originally Posted by Megan
But I have something to add about that.
I don't know if it's as much making fun of someone or their weaknesses, more like, just pointing things out that are "different." I can make fun of myself just as well as I can other people, luckily people that I joke with know how to take things with humor and I rarely upset anyone. The few times I have upset people it made me feel really bad and I apologized for days, at the time it didn't seem like it was as bad as it was.
Although, I've learned to make sure that anything that I'd ever say behind someone's back is something I wouldn't be afraid to tell them to their face. This keeps me from saying reeeeeally stupid things that I may be thinking in my head that actually would upset someone.
Does it make me a bad person to have this type of humor in my arsenal of what makes people laugh? sometimes. Will people always laugh at it, whether it's against me, them, or others... of course. Am I a mean person? Only if you don't know me, then yes you could say that.
Back to the topic.
Originally Posted by fever
In your opinion (if you have one), is Beta or Alpha more likely?
I guess ESFp could work.
You know, you remind me of Herzy.
edit: dammit, now there's two threads. Oh well.
That's the most interesting thing -- no matter how people discuss Socionics, they still tend to assume that, at the end of the day, other people's motivations and behavior are the same as theirs.Originally Posted by Kim
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
I like to think that I don't. But of course that doesn't stop me from trying to force it on them!Originally Posted by Expat
Currently I think ENFp or ISFp with a small chance of ISTp.
INFp > ISFp > your mom > INFj > anything else
OMG u like Mustachio... U r so INFp!!
(written in Fever-speak )
I'm not totally convinced that he's ESTp in the first place, so no... the reason is because she seems to be IxFp, but also seems to be a positivist (and a victim type most likely).