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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Maybe you can't find an EII because you suck at typing people Sol.
    I don't think that the reason @Sol hasn't found an EII is because he sucks at typing people.

    Rather, I think he has low Fi and is deathly afraid of making what seems to him to be a permanent choice in an area in which he lacks confidence. He needs incontrovertible proof before he's going to let himself fall in love.

    I mean, I'm right there with him on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I don't think that the reason @Sol hasn't found an EII is because he sucks at typing people.

    Rather, I think he has low Fi and is deathly afraid of making what seems to him to be a permanent choice in an area in which he lacks confidence. He needs incontrovertible proof before he's going to let himself fall in love.

    I mean, I'm right there with him on that one.
    I'd get a dog or two. Loyal and keeps a man happy. Women on the other hand exist to burn your money, cause drama, break your heart and give you offspring if you are lucky lol.

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    @Adam Strange: you know adam, the frustrating part for me is that I spend a significant amount of time typing people. I watched probably 5 or 6 of isabel's videos, which are all around 20 minutes long (so roughly two hours) and then I look here and just intuitively know that you and 007 have maybe watched 5 or 10 minutes at most and you say "actually, it's a completely different type", and I just feel like I'm wasting my time here. for every constructive suggestion I have to read a lot of nonsense and over time it starts to get frustrating, but also wonder if I just don't have the patience for it. maybe I should take a break from here. covid winter is almost over and I have some ideas that I want to put into practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I watched several videos of isabel paige and how she build her tiny house. she was really struggling with it. she's very clumsy when it comes to handling equipment, often times she would cry because it was all too hard or she forgot to buy some equipment for her house so she had to travel back to the city for several hours because of her scatteredness. SLI makes zero sense to me.
    Lack of strength and inexperience. She got better as time went on in this video anyway. And nailguns are heavy, holding it over her head while nailing in the boards, yeah, I've had moments like that too in situations where it's just frustrating. I maybe haven't reacted quite like that, but just thought, "Arrrgh, why am I not stronger?! Or, why isn't this stupid board fitting right!" And everyone, no matter how experienced forgets stuff, or occasionally picks up the wrong thing, so someone completely new at this, yeah, they'll have plenty of those moments no matter what type. Ha, my dad's been building houses for 45+ years and he still forgets things sometimes or gets frustrated - heh, working with him I've occasionally seen a board or hammer go flying because he got mad at something not working right.

    All that is just to say that, inexperience doing something may look clumsy, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. And frustration doing something doesn't mean you're necessarily bad at it. This is the only video I've watched, so it's quite possible I'm missing a lot of stuff, especially since it's so edited though. I don't really have an opinion on her type, just that I wouldn't rule out SLI just because she's learning something new to her.

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    I haven't watched the video but my experience of SLI is that they very rarely show frustration openly and definitely don't send tools flying (I do that, I've seen SEE do it as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    I haven't watched the video but my experience of SLI is that they very rarely show frustration openly and definitely don't send tools flying (I do that, I've seen SEE do it as well).
    She wasn't throwing anything, instead she was whining. So, different reaction from my dad's or mine. I didn't think it meant she was bad at it, just frustrated.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-I33Beewc

    the importance of creativity

    5 years ago I posted a video on vimeo and I remember how much fun I had creating that video and how I dreamed of filming documentaries that instill peace into the viewer. during this time in my life I was free. it was a time when I had no worries or real adult responsibilities. I used to lay in meadows all day, painting, singing and dancing. this was also when I first started my yoga practice and I was beginning to feel the connection between my intuition and spirituality (hugs tree @3:27) but then realised again that painting pictures and making videos, creating things held no value in the eyes of society. I was told to get a formal education and get a real world job. suddenly my life became filled with endless textbooks, lectures and late-night studying of very structural material. suddenly all those creative things you loved became a waste of time. time that could be used for studying and making money. this time in my life was probably when I suffered the most.

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    Adam Strange and @Chin Diaper 007: can you please explain to me how she is an SLI.

    I know that I'm being harsh on you guys, but please consider the immense amount of time I dedicate to my gallery and the research of the theory. I might not find an answer to the riemann hypothesis (which is a really odd thing to tell me since you obviously wouldn't go to a musician and tell them to solve a theoretical problem that they have no connection to for example) but I know that I perceive types very well and I kind of want to give the people here a vague idea about every type so they stop confusing 4D functions with 1D functions. in some way I relate to isabel, since I probably spend 4-5 hours every day on research and I do it all for free, since thinking in itself is not worth money in our current society. the only reason I can afford to do it is that my circumstances allow me to research without any pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-I33Beewc

    the importance of creativity

    5 years ago I posted a video on vimeo and I remember how much fun I had creating that video and how I dreamed of filming documentaries that instill peace into the viewer. during this time in my life I was free. it was a time when I had no worries or real adult responsibilities. I used to lay in meadows all day, painting, singing and dancing. this was also when I first started my yoga practice and I was beginning to feel the connection between my intuition and spirituality (hugs tree @3:27) but then realised again that painting pictures and making videos, creating things held no value in the eyes of society. I was told to get a formal education and get a real world job. suddenly my life became filled with endless textbooks, lectures and late-night studying of very structural material. suddenly all those creative things you loved became a waste of time. time that could be used for studying and making money. this time in my life was probably when I suffered the most.

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    Adam Strange and @Chin Diaper 007: can you please explain to me how she is an SLI.

    I know that I'm being harsh on you guys, but please consider the immense amount of time I dedicate to my gallery and the research of the theory. I might not find an answer to the riemann hypothesis (which is a really odd thing to tell me since you obviously wouldn't go to a musician and tell them to solve a theoretical problem for example) but I know that I perceive types very well and I kind of want to give the people here a vague idea about every type so they stop confusing 4D functions with 1D functions.
    Not addressed to me, but did you consider SEI for her at all? She has a very strong focus on Si "filming documentaries that instill peace" . . . and somewhat anti-Te in her quoted statement.

    Edit: Tried to watch the video you posted, but it draggggged, with way too much time spent on making and drinking coffee, and so on. Very very Si. Not seeing how she might be Ne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Not addressed to me, but did you consider SEI for her at all? She has a very strong focus on Si "filming documentaries that instill peace" . . . and somewhat anti-Te in her quoted statement.

    Edit: Tried to watch the video you posted, but it draggggged, with way too much time spent on making and drinking coffee, and so on. Very very Si. Not seeing how she might be Ne?
    she is a normalising subtype with accentuated Si. I also can't really understand how you see a pragmatic, down-to-earth sensing type in her after the text I quoted. I also love the long takes. she is a breath of fresh air on a platform like youtube where people constantly scream "here here here, look at me!!! I have nothing to say and I say it regularly". I'm tired of all these videos that are directed to people with a short attention span.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    she is a normalising subtype with accentuated Si. I also can't really understand how you see a pragmatic, down-to-earth sensing type in her after the text I quoted. I also love the long takes. she is a breath of fresh air on a platform like youtube where people constantly scream "here here here, look at me!!!" all the time. I'm tired of all these videos that are directed to people with short attention spans.
    I just see Si, lots of it.

    It's not about attention span, it's about what the attention is focused on. I can't find someone pouring and drinking coffee for 5 minutes interesting. It's cool that a lot of people get value out of that. I'm glad that she's reaching that goal of peaceful documentaries and that you enjoy them. But um, yeah, it's bucketloads of Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Maybe you can't find an EII because you suck at typing people Sol.
    In case you mean stable pair relations with the one who I think as a dual - that needs significantly more. Besides, I may agree on other good IR as semiduality and activation.

    I rarely get significant feelings, while have no interest to relations without them. When relations do not go good, I have long time to switch. Initial Socionics skills I got to mid 2000s, but did not felt emotionally opened to new women until ~2017. Then got emotions to problematic direction where partly stay still. Main now problems relate to age, and to income which needs be improved.

    In case of good typing, good possibility to use typology for making a pair is when you are young and use today meeting/network sites, visit places with women known as opened for relations.
    In other case the main hope would be on a luck to get a human appropriate by the type and other traits for a pair among people with who you significantly and regularly communicate, or at least may regularly see.
    While the most common problem of bad typing would be systematically do pairs with people having other type (or IR) than you think. Not so hard to make short-time pair or long and emotionally bad with many IR. Sexual passion is strong factor to create pairs, while types are more important to have long and good pair with a friendship.

    @shotgunfingers
    Is there a better argument for my bad typing skills?
    As for example, such is against Gulenko - he uses own hypotheses about types which are not Socionics. What much explains his strange opinions.
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    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    He needs incontrovertible proof before he's going to let himself fall in love.
    I'm not emotional. So I rarely get strong feelings to women. While when this happens - this looks as much accidental for me.

    Among cases when I had significant feelings there was no "proof".
    In 1st and 3d cases I thought there are feelings or high sympathy to me, that those girls are kind, smart and decent in behavior. I knew those girls not much for this to happen.
    In 2nd case feelings appeared to a girl about who I knew a few too. I've got special emotions in 1st moment I've seen her and then emotions developed.
    Significant feelings always developed without good reasonable basis and before significant communication.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    in some way I relate to isabel, since I probably spend 4-5 hours every day on research and I do it all for free, since thinking in itself is not worth money in our current society.
    Thank God

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    IEE
    Sorry bro ESE-Fe with very clear EJ temperament
    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    IEE-N
    I'd go with ESI-Se, but she's a bit difficult to type because of the Harmonizing subtype. The functions that are expressed the strongest are Si and Ni. I know a harmonizing IEE-Fi, she has founded an NGO against food waste and does a lot of weird chakra stuff but she's far from being that crafty or independent to live off the grid and focusses much more on the 'needs of humanity' than her own self-development. IEE isn't called the inspirer or champion for nothing
    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    actress abigail spencer - enfp

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    I knew from the shape of her mouth in the picture that I posted that she wasn't ESI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by them View Post
    actress abigail spencer - enfp
    Still ESE, prob Si subtype.

    Since you guys are so obsessed with gorgeous flighty women in their mid 20ies(who wouldn't?), here some IEE D(DCNH) sx-first. Notice how little awareness of their bodies they have, being fidgety or waving their arms like they are helicopter rotor blades and how they are all over the place when talking. Also they have a more 'serious'(valued Te) and 'childish' vibe than ESE.



    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    Paula Abdul seems IEE: https://youtu.be/h0E0uEBi724
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=paula+abdu...ages&ia=images

    edit: @lkdhf qkb I await your professional verdict

    2nd edit: I don’t consider IEEs more childish than ESEs really, but maybe childish in different ways. For one ESEs flip between cheeriness and seriousness easily. With IEEs this seems more blended. Often older IEEs who’ve lived through a lot try to be cheery but seem sad and beaten down. They seem to all either get jaded in their old age or frantically chase after the optimism they were once able to effortlessly effuse and they just end up seeming even sadder.

    But I used to be friends with an older ESE woman at my church when I was a teenager. I don’t want to post the story on a public forum but she lived through something absolutely horrific. It never stopped gnawing at her as far as I knew, and the few times she talked about it a shadow passed over her face and she seemed vulnerable, but the rest of the time she was a font of positivity and tried to do whatever she could for other people. She gave the impression of having an eternal source of youthful optimism. I think one of the things that really distinguishes ESEs from IEEs is that ESEs never lose that sense of childlike optimism and learn how to integrate the darkness of the world seamlessly into their positive personas. Poor IEEs just wither away unless they manage to remain somewhat sheltered and reassured of the goodness in the world.
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    delivigne and tove lo are EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    delivigne and tove lo are EIE
    DCNH-D has strong demonstrative, they are IEE 'EIE subtype' in a way. Look here you can see creative Fi 'opening up' without any Fe 'atmosphere making':


    "I'm so excited about this " lol that's not a Fe dom!
    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    @FreelancePoliceman yea I could see IEE-Fi DCNH-N for her, but the fact she's drunk on all her interviews fucks up the accuracy of the typing. She could also be ESI-Fi, but I still prefer IEE-Fi. It's sad she has to drink so much to deal with her social anxiety. Being a celebrity isn't for everyone

    EDIT: I think Alpha quadra in general has more emotional resilence than Delta. My ILE sister gets hurt pretty often by people but the day after she's like "yo I don't care anymore! was a nice experience anyway hahaha ", while Deltas would wallow longer. I think it's compensated by a better ability to navigate(or at least resist) the 'real adult world' (of central quadras) in Delta though. Deltas won't allow people to push them aside and strip them of their qualifications or their rights or treat them like work maids. Older alphas often play the 'I didn't care or be ambitious enough to fight for the life I wanted and I'm happy anyway' card but I can often sense the bitterness or at least resignation behind that.
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    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

    Life is soup. I'm fork


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    Wade Davis, Canadian anthropologist LSE-Te (Harmonizing?)


    Nice lectures by him for the pleasure:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL7vK0pOvKI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyjNgnFOmyU


    Frederik Imbo, belgian actor LSE-Si



    Simon Sinek, LSE-Te (Normalizing?)
    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

    Life is soup. I'm fork


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    Big Clive maybe SLI


    Poor Mr BunBun. He died because Clive got homicidally explosive.

    Here he makes LED lamps better (takes off a resistor to lower power enhancing life span - sounds very delta result)


    And this vid where he plays with a doll:


    Probably SLI creative.
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    SLI enjoying an Si moment communing with nature:



    Sometimes during summer I too only do Si things (yes the lid down there is from 2mm 1050 H24 aluminium):


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    Kai the hitchhiker - IEE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chin Diaper 007 View Post
    Kai the hitchhiker - IEE
    Dude, I typed this guy like three years ago here. Silke independently did as well. But I agree, IEE for sure. A more trailer trash version. He ended up in prison for murdering an older guy who assaulted Kai.

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    I am curious about LSE examples who are sx first or second

    preferably some H qualities it seems Ns could rub me the wrong way. Not all of them, but still.
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    LSE and EII gf go to Japan e_e to learn about Koi fish (boring):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post


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    I wonder how much she earns and if that's sustainable in the long run.
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    Prince Philip was a perfect example of LSE if there ever was one.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50589065

    On the topic of LSEs, Thor Heyerdahl was another.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdahl

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    Jerma985 is like quintessential IEE 7w6:
    "Now is the time to get serious about living your ideals. How long can you afford to put off who you really want to be? Your nobler self cannot wait any longer. Put your principles into practice – now. Stop the excuses and the procrastination. This is your life! You aren’t a child anymore. The sooner you set yourself to your spiritual program, the happier you will be. The longer you wait, the more you’ll be vulnerable to mediocrity and feel filled with shame and regret, because you know you are capable of better. From this instant on, vow to stop disappointing yourself. Separate yourself from the mob. Decide to be extraordinary and do what you need to do – now." - Epictetus

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    @Tallmo would you happen to have LSE-H examples?


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    https://vimeo.com/48658628
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    https://www.enchanteddoll.com/

    I don't know if I have posted this or not
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    The dolls are stunning @asd. Found another video that shares the artist's process.



    I'm impressed by the intricate work, the way she adds each curl to the hairpiece, laces the miniature corset-dress
    and even that, she has hand-sewn tiny beads on...amazing

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