Kaisa seems like a person who is enduring a great deal of suffering. When she said that she used to stab herself in school to keep herself awake, that sounded like a red flag to me. The wording is very important. (I'm watching the video and write this at the same time (pausing the video and taking notes) and Josh at 16:30 thought exactly the same thing !).
She rationalises a lot, explaining her behavior through enneagram.
20.31 note the rhetorical question, she is about to use her Ego Block functions.
20.45 to 21.23 some Ni here (Mental and 2d so far)
21.24 (Josh reminds me a bit of myself !) She doesn't know how she feels (?).
She transferred Fe info to Si (I don't like to sit for a long time) to answer the question.
22.16 (Why are you asking ?) to 23.19 (How
you are feeling) : That section was very emotionally charged, there is a seduction game (like flirting) vibe going on (If I was Freudian I would say that she is transfering a little bit). She is definitely seduced by Josh (he's a fine interviewer but also a seducer !). I also picked up a lot of erratic facial micro-expressions from Kaisa, there is a lack of conscious Fe control in terms of behavior.
29.49 to 29.58 ( sign of Mental Ni + Fe). 29.59 to 30.04 (Ne).
30.06 to 31.40
[Ni+Te] in service of Si (the whole optimization (Te producing) according to the monthly cycles (Ni accepting)). These are all mental info Ni and Te seems HD. There is also plenty of Ti here.
31.44 to 34.06.
Here she shows signs of HD Ti and norm 2D Si + ((in SSS) avoiding the negative aspects of Si like bad smelling)). Also she way with which she nuanced and explained her SX > SP is almost as if she was saying "I'm an Se valuer contrary to what it seems..."
34.15 to 35.11 Josh has Vital Si but Kaia has has Mental Si. What she said here is 2D mental Si (note the "some people smell" which also indicate accepting Si in the mental ring. (probably in the Super-Ego block).
35.26. to 38.07 this section is the most interesting so far. She's very beautiful btw and Josh is as fascinated by her and her observations as I am right now. All she is saying here is in service of Si her process of collecting sensory data is Te and Se (Note 38.59 how she said "I had sex with each of them" bluntly, people are literally objectified and serves as data points of experience). She shown uncertainty in Si when she said that she "started her sexual life quite late compare to other people ..I think" she had to compare to other people. 2D Si Super-Ego. She "applied" her "competency"
because of Fi motivation i.e. to be "ready for tinder" (relationships).
39.21. to 39.48. Ni-
Te in service of Si and Se valuing.
40.00 to 44.10. She values Se, verbal with Fe but this is LD info and mobilized by Fi.
44.11. to 46.15 She values Se.
47.04. to 47.33. She's Ip and her emotional releases are consequent to the situation like all irrationals but since she is intuitive her reaction are not necessarily synchronized or in the moment. There is a delay, she planned about the right time and created the condition of her emotional release. The whole military "infiltration" story was a plan and context of thrill turned her on sexually because she values Se and that's the reason why she said that SX is better than SP in terms of emotional release.
to be continued... (?)
Edit 2 : October 3, 2024. 00.11 AM (Southern France). Let's continue !
47.33 to 48.43 okay there was a little bit of 3D Ne in begging but the most important is her Fi statement. There are sign of Fi 3D in the vital track she is aware of the moral issue but doesn't take it into account as far as she is concerned. That point to a situational 3D (at least) and vital track Fi because it's about the way she deals with Fi info independently of what society's judgement while being perfectly aware of it.
48.46 to 49.41 signs of vital and 3D Ne. (I picked on some Fe).
50.32 to 51.44 Strong Ne. (she is talking about a phenomenon that I experienced three or four times in my entire life may I call it "out of bubble experience" where you are suddenly aware of your own existence (and mortality) as a living being. What she call inbody experience is very similar.). Her Si is manifestly weak but notice that she practice Martial Arts (kung-fu , tai-chi-chuan) and Yoga, I think she is in perpetual quest of that feeling of "in-body" experience.
52.01 to 52.41 Again signs of weak Si (she's definitely an intuitive type) she can remember the "feeling" but not the physical sensation (I have this problem too). Thinking about "substances" to help her getting these sensations is Ne.
53.24 to 54.40 rationalizing (Ti) LD Si and Se, drawing a direct causality between lack of sensory experience and autoimmune diseases is HD Ni. (sidenote :I know a type that is notoriously inclined to complain about bad health...
).
54.41 to 56.00 signs of very weak and Vital Si this is suspiciously weak; like PolR level weak. Should I have to scratch all the notes I made so far ?
56.01 to 56.33 although that sounds a bit mystical, it relates to that "in-body" experience and the acknowledgement of our own mortality (funny she said "immortality", was it a lapsus ?). She evoked the carefree lifestyle pointing out to society behavior, using the pronoun "We" (as in "society") is indicative of Mental super-Ego block info in this case it's Te.
56.37 to 57.13 conscious attention on her crush (se) while unconscious of discomfort/painful Si- data.
57.14 to 59.25 she keeps using Se terminology (targeting, killer etc.. ) and uses a lot of Ne and Ni. signs HD Fi and Fe. Also as a side not a romanticized and poetic take on flirting and the Ni sense of urgency.
59.26 to 1.01.26 HD Fi and Fe (definitely an NF type). She is rationalising again (explaining her behavior through the enneagram theory). Also a preference for Se >Si when push comes to shove. Note also the victim attitude "I had to be chosen by the other one" that's quite powerful ! What she called sexual instinct is ought to be understood in this case as Se suggestive (wanting to be taken and feel like the propriety of her target, sexual fantasies of a strong male animus etc...).
1.01.25 to 1.01.28 (yes josh , whoa ! I agree !)
1.01.29 to 1.02.18 Se valuing but Vital, noticing afterwards about the realisation of an IE is a sign of that IE being in the Vital track, she notices being "cross-boundaried" (Se) afterwards (even months or years after the facts (this is how long it would have taken for the info to be brought to her consciousness )) is indicative of being out of touch with Se (suggestive most likely).
[When she talked about her difficulties to apply Se knowledge that in isolation can be indicative of Si Ignoring (particularly Si in the Control function in Model G, this function being in that model like a secondary PolR (high on information low on energy), however we have enough contexts to rule out Si of the Ignoring function imho (we've established that She's an Intuitive type).]
1.03.50 to 1.06.42 this section confuses me. Some vital Fi and Ni, signs (undirect) of LD Se.
1.06.43 to 1.07.20 Ni and Fe. The lack of Se support lead her to deep depression.
1.07.21 to 1.07.44 Ni ,Ne, Fe
1.07.45 to 1.08.29 she compensates her lack of energy in Te with sensory stimulation that uplift her mood and give her energy to work. That's Te --> (S) Fe (low D to HD info transfer). (maybe she is listening to Se related Music too, maybe metal or something like that). I see again rationalisation and Ne.
1.08.30 to 1.09.31 she is making a distinction in behavior between the ways Sx/So and So/Sx manifest So. (look at this micro-expression at 1.08.58 to 1.08.59, see her tongue at the word "Juice (?)" (she seems to like that word !) instant vampire vibe ! I love it !). Se --> Fi (low D to HD info transfer) she is aware of the social masks people put on at far psychological distance and she has a very poetic way of describing it as a "space" that need to be crossed and in which she gets her juice. She need authenticity mixed with some kind of will imposed on her private space. That's Se suggestive.
1.09.32 to 1.09.58 HD Fi
1.10.00 to 1.10.15 Josh, stop it you pervert !
Look at her face illuminating at these Se words...
1.10.15 to 1.11.16 yope ! That's an Ni (+ Ne) and Fe Ode to Se !
1.11.18 to 1.11.28
1.11.29 to 1.12.05 she was about to give an HD info...
1.12.05 to 1.12.39 Josh, you're pushing it... and it works ! You Pervert !
1.12.39 to 1.13.35 Ne + Ni and some Fe. The theme of metamorphosis is Ni ( EIE-ish more often).
1.13.34 to 1.14.24 Ni and valuing Se ("my harmony is different.." )
1.14.24 to 1.15.34 rationalizing her Se valuing
1.15.34 to 1.15.36 Of Corsa ! (very Private Joke sorry !)
1.15.37 to 1.16.58 Ne and Ti (both vital as indicated by the "in my case" at the beginning of her thought ) rationalising her way of being to make it fit an enneagram type.
1.17.00 to 1.20.05 very interesting section. She is very self aware btw, Ti--> Fi (HD vital).
1.20.17 to 1.24.22 I was hypnotized by her speech, sorry all I saw was "IEI -IEI- IEI" and me going
to be continued.... or not.
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