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    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/
    When you are ready post here and I will add your gallery.

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    Supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not. I said this because most of the examples for SLI seem to resemble facial structure and shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragdoll Cat View Post
    most of those IEE don't seem IEE to me. Also supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not.
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley

    Aldous Leonard Huxley was an English writer and one of the most prominent members of the famous Huxley family. He spent the latter part of his life in the United States, living in Los Angeles from 1937 until his death in 1963. Best known for his novels and wide-ranging output of essays, he also published short stories, poetry, travel writing, and film stories and scripts. Through his novels and essays Huxley functioned as an examiner and sometimes critic of social mores, norms and ideals. Huxley was a humanist but was also interested towards the end of his life in spiritual subjects such as parapsychology and philosophical mysticism. By the end of his life, Huxley was widely acknowledged as one of the pre-eminent intellectuals of his time.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung

     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    yes, I thought on Ni for him too.

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    interesting. huxley was the one I was sceptical about, that's why I'm posting my lists here. thanks for the comment. I will look into him again. I don't use V.I. at all in my typings, but obviously I noticed that some people look very similar. the SLI examples are mostly german politicians. I've spend quite a lot of time watching interviews with them. I'm very sure of their type. germany is a country that is run by delta ST types. what are the IEE typings that you disagree with? @Ragdoll Cat
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    @soundofconfusion

    "EII"
    Björk Guðmundsdóttir - SEI
    Ingmar Bergman - EIE
    Werner Herzog - I*TP
    Carl Rogers - mb
    Emily Dickinson - doubtful
    Hayao Miyazaki - mb LSI
    Isao Takahata - I*FP
    Haruki Murakami - P
    Virginia Woolf - mb
    Leonard Cohen - no
    Jeff Buckley - IEI
    Nick Drake - no. more T
    Stephin Merritt - no
    Win Butler - no

    nice try

    make bloggers list. you may type them by impressions from nonverbal
    historical people without videos are doubtful to type at all

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    Thomas Henry Huxley - mb EIE
    Aldous Huxley - mb ENT*
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @soundofconfusion

    "EII"
    Björk Guðmundsdóttir - SEI
    Werner Herzog - I*TP
    Carl Rogers - mb
    Hayao Miyazaki - mb LSI
    Isao Takahata - I*FP
    Leonard Cohen - no
    Jeff Buckley - IEI
    Stephin Merritt - no

    nice try
    these are the ones where I'm a 100% sure. I don't really care about bloggers. I started the gallery because I wanted to know the types of my favorite artists, writers etc. it was more of a personal project. I worked on it with two friends and we often discussed the typings. I think we had this discussion already, I think it's very much possible to type historical figures. I removed Huxley from the gallery for now.

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    Nick Drake might have been an ILI. this was the second option I thought about. judging his music I'm leaning more towards EII. I can really only type people that I find very interesting, because I spend hours reading about their life. typing Miyazaki as LSI seems pretty absurd to me tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    these are the ones where I'm a 100% sure
    so high assurance, especially with the lack of good typing data for someones, is a trait of novices. as after a time you should change many opinions about types. also your lack of reasonable criticism mb due to your F type

    > I don't really care about bloggers.

    lists are useful mostly as examples of types
    bloggers are good for this. better than famouses without many videointerviews
    also you'd studed to type better during typing of them

    > I started the gallery because I wanted to know the types of my favorite artists, writers etc.

    you wanted to understand those people better. and then to share this knowledge with those who has similar interest to them
    not a common task for lists. your people-centered approach reminds F type

    > I think it's very much possible to type historical figures

    It has much more possible chance of a mistake than in typing of today people. Significant part of info about them is doubtful: filtered, distorted and limited. Without good nonverbal you'll type by a half of useful data what reduces the chance to be correct. So it's often doubtful to be highly sure in their types from reasonable point.
    Sometimes there are photos and they give assured type and then you read biography, check what those people did and said and may notice the good match with the type supposed by nonverbal. If to take typing by photos seriously, as it's not good info about nonverbal in general. Any other cases I'd did not take as assured enough for lists or would noticed that lesser sure in those types.
    There is objective significant difference in the quality of data about modern people and those who lived long ago and no videointerviews were left. This objectively reduces the chances to be correct about their types. To ignore this is the irresponsibility. There should be more of modern and interesting for you people - they are more appropriate for lists.

    I recommend you to make a typing theme with your videointerview. There is too much to doubt in base T as your type.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    so high assurance, especially with the lack of good typing data for someones, is a trait of novices. as after a time you should change many opinions about types. also your lack of reasonable criticism mb due to your F type
    I dislike to be so negative in this thread here, but I find your postings mostly very irritating. I'm just going to ignore you from now on. you make too many assumptions about me, repeat the same messages over and over again, and your typings often don't make any sense to me.

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    @soundofconfusion
    "LSE"
    Otto Hahn - mb LSI
    Konrad Adenauer - SLE
    Jens Spahn - I
    Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer - no
    George H. W. Bush - N
    Julian Reichelt - P
    Christian Sewing - LSI
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Tokidoki Traveller - mb ENFP


    Michelle Wilson - mb INFJ
    Last edited by Sol; 08-24-2019 at 12:53 AM.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    John Lennon - introversion? @Sol
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    John Lennon - introversion?
    mb SLI
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Tokidoki Traveller - mb ENFP
    Now make this person into a man and an expat living here from Britain and also make him a ex-cocaine addict, and you will see the kind of ENFp I have had to be dealing with at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    mb SLI
    Would Maureen Cleave then be his dual?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Bon Bagay - mb ESTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Would Maureen Cleave then be his dual?
    she has F. not sure in more
    Last edited by Sol; 08-25-2019 at 03:05 PM.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/
    It is interesting that you type Bjork EII. Can I know how you came to this conclusion? I had her as IEE because she seemed Exxp > Ixxj to me.

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    Lubov Akvi - ISTP
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy View Post
    It is interesting that you type Bjork EII. Can I know how you came to this conclusion? I had her as IEE because she seemed Exxp > Ixxj to me.
    well it has been quite a while since I typed her so I will explain it out of my memory. I find Björk's music very abstract and profound. I personally have the opinion that 4-dimensional Ni types are able to create very complex works of art. Victor Gulenko says that Ni (and Fi) are correlated with artistic abilities, and I've observed this in online forums, with my favortite artists and friends being IEI, EII and ILI (the latter has a more structured and mechanical approach, godard and kubrick for example, while IEI and EII use art to express their emotions and feelings).

    then I watched some interviews with her, and out of the four Ni types, EII just made the most sense to me


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    Seems EII or IEE, leaning more towards the latter, tons of Ne esp in the music video:



    Lyrics:

    1000g (Milgram)
    Today, I am too eff-efficient
    Thirty-three years old, like Jesus when he checked outAt the bastion they said ‘be good and perceptive’If I do exactly as I’m told, there’ll be no exceptions
    Tied up, with an extra tight knot, I’m just moving figures
    On a computer screen in a prestigious company
    My boss is next to me, he tells me to keep working
    And since I signed a contract, I keep typingIt’s all about cash and making more of it
    Whatever else happens, I don’t have the time to think about it
    Totally motivated, I’m a hard worker
    Intelligent and gifted, I need to be efficient
    One morning, I arrived for a private meeting
    One needed to explain everything about my mission
    My heart stopped, it seemed like an ugly topic
    But it’s not my place to have my say
    I decided to settle down in a prestigious company
    Everyone knows their stuff, it’s not for me to think about
    Whatever else happens, I’m just moving numbers
    My boss is next to me, I need to be efficient
    I am an agent, confined in conflicted thoughts
    I want to stop everything, I keep typing
    One day I woke up and I wanted to stop everything
    My boss looked straight at me, “You have no other choice, you must go on”I want you to be efficient
    I am a comic money agent, in an “agentic state”My heart tells me to stop everything when my body keeps typing
    Amongst all of these people, I don’t want to be the failure
    The worthless rebel, who makes a stand and messes it all up
    That said, I haven’t understood that everything comes together little by little
    That’s probably the problem
    Stuck in my conscience
    I’m just a little dot who is making so-called scientific progress.A brain weighs over one thousand grams

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    honest labor needs no master

    Nothing good is a miracle, nothing lovely is a dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    Man, I agree she seems Delta.

    She's like a twin to the EII that I've worked with for eight years, who is equally attractive, actually. I can take her anywhere. Too bad she's EII and not ESI. Lol.

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    Sofia Emertziadou - mb IEE
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    honest labor needs no master

    Nothing good is a miracle, nothing lovely is a dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    Lol.
    "That's sexy food right there."
    "Sometimes you have to make love to your food."
    "So that right there is sex on a plate."

    It does look like a great sandwich. I'd eat that.


    ESE. You can see the LII in this guy, but he's so extroverted, he's got to be ESE.

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    Bjork: SEI. Here is an example of her putting her ignoring function to good use:



    Murakami: SLI. Most of his main characters are SLI, I admire his books for the brilliant way in which he demonstrates inner world of SLIs.
    The future of Socionics:
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    Many black Americans are SEE type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    I see a fair amount of in that video... and valued ... but he's not SLI.

    LSE with developed role function?

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    * unintentional double post deleted *

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    ESE.
    to sexualize a tasty food (Si) seems as a pathology, so more expected among N types and lesser Se. it's in weak regions is more expected a mess of senses and associations, those are more chaotic
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    What if you sexualize cucumbers? I guess finding creative uses for stuff is Ne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    What if you sexualize cucumbers? I guess finding creative uses for stuff is Ne.
    Where is @Hitta when you need advice on this stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    What if you sexualize cucumbers?
    For most people bananas and cucumbers are vegetables to eat, for some people they're sex toys that grow in the wild.

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    That's why the eggplant emoji exists, people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Bjork: SEI. Here is an example of her putting her ignoring function to good use:



    Murakami: SLI. Most of his main characters are SLI, I admire his books for the brilliant way in which he demonstrates inner world of SLIs.
    I find it weird that users of this website type highly creative and unconventional people as Si dominant types, who are inclined to follow stereotypes to adapt to their enviroment. most SLI love cars and other technical aspects that are based on reality, they don't write surrealistic novels with romantic elements. SEI don't create abstract art like Björk does

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I find it weird that users of this website type highly creative and unconventional people as Si dominant types, who are inclined to follow stereotypes to adapt to their enviroment. most SLI love cars and other technical aspects that are based on reality, they don't write surrealistic novels with romantic elements. SEI don't create abstract art like Björk does
    Really? You think SLIs and SEIs can only conform to your rigid Ti concepts of how things should be?
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    Many black Americans are SEE type.

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    no, I'm saying that Ni is highly correlated to artistic abilities, and that it's extremly unlikely that murakami and Björk are Si dominant types, just as I'm extremly unlikely to be a pro martial arts fighter. I just noticed that it's very common on this website to type these highly intuitive people as sensing types

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    and yet there exists words from Björk herself saying of not caring about business, takes care routines and on top of that having problems coming up new things (which sounds funny but eh)
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