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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Die Antwoord music sometimes get associated with beta more specifically with SLE/IEI, but I think Yolandi Visser is SLI-Si, has a cute voice(human feature) and very cute Si innotation and Si body language. She generally doesnt speak much on interviews, so I have shared a music video:

    I see what you mean. More needs to explored here. Ip at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aciaradh View Post
    Definite SLI, I agree. I think this has been posted elsewhere too, but here's him with his dual future wife

    Activity partners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbonkel View Post
    Hes probably SEI
    I think so. The way he works a crowd says strong Fe. All the reasons for introverted and Si valuing I could support.

    This is what I'm talking about:

    Zone of comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    James Jacoby - EII-Fi sx/so the sx subtype, he's the interviewer in this docu not the storyteller voice


    This guy makes me nervous for some reason.

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    Ed Sheeran ENFp

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    Ryan Reynolds ENFp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post

    LSE.
    3w4?

    Sad. Testament to just how lost low Ni can become.

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    Steve-O ENFp


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    Socionics. Extraverted Intuition. IEE - ENFP and ILE - ENTP. Eng sub.
    What's the difference between +I (intuition of perspectives) and -I (intuition of alternatives)? What is the mission of IEE - ENFP (Advisor, Huxley)?



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    Nea:
    What is the mission of IEE ?


    Socionics. Humanitarian socionics school:

    To meet interesting people and motivate talents

    yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    I think so. The way he works a crowd says strong Fe. All the reasons for introverted and Si valuing I could support.

    This is what I'm talking about:

    Zone of comfort.
    Yeah he seems all about harmony and wispering sweet Fe nothings in his songs. Like so many artists who are primarily known for this type of music, think James Blunt, Shawn Mendez and even Dutch artist Jan Smit, he is a SEI.

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    IEE/SLI dual clash?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    IEE/SLI dual clash?



    Naruto SEE
    sasuke ESI
    Gara ILI
    Asuma Sarutobi SLI

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    Remember IEE have strong unvalued 4d Fe

    https://sociotype.com/socionics/types/IEE-ENFp/
    Extroverted Ethics (Fe, Fe)
    The IEE appreciates situations where people are enjoying a positive emotional atmosphere as in having fun and joking together, and is quite adept at creating them himself, but does not see creating or promoting them a top priority, nor does he actively look for people who maintain or need such an atmosphere; too high a focus on that is seen by an IEE as overdone. He can be very empathetic and will frequently comfort his friends and acquaintances, mostly letting them vent to him, offering suggestions as to what to do about it. These are usually practical. The IEE may offer a more optimistic viewpoint, but will not press the matter if the optimism is not received well. He is usually genuinely concerned, but refuses to let the negative energy affect him. This may eventually become tiring if it persists as he will feel guilty for being happy in the face of those close to him being miserable. The IEE does not like conflict between people one bit; he would rather stay on everyone's good side and keep in good terms with both sides of a conflict, preferring not to be judged by his affiliation with one side or another. In such situations he says very little that would give away where he truly sides on an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karas View Post
    Naruto SEE
    sasuke ESI
    Gara ILI
    Asuma Sarutobi SLI
    Naruto and the whole manga is cleary Delta value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    Naruto and the whole manga is cleary Delta value.


    https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Gamma/

    Perception of Other Quadras
    Alpha
    Gammas tend to perceive Alpha types as creative, generally well-meaning, and friendly and pleasant people, especially as a group, as a first impression. Later, Gammas tend to see Alphas as lacking ambition in the longer term, overly concerned with sensorial pleasure and comfort, and overly demanding of, and sensitive to, external emotional expression without making much effort to focus on deeper feelings involved.

    Beta
    Gammas tend to regard Beta types as driven, ambitious people with a sense of purpose and who can get things done, usually with very strong views, as in political issues or ways of approaching work, which Gammas tend to see as not backed by sufficient factual confirmation and therefore too ideological. Gammas also may regard Betas as two-faced when bent on achieving a goal, and too concerned with their social status, and that of others, within any given social group.

    Delta
    Gammas tend to perceive Delta types as kindly, well-meaning and creative people, but perhaps too present-focused and lacking ambition with a longer-term perspective, as well as being overly welcoming and forgiving of people whom Gammas may regard as undeserving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karas View Post

    https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Gamma/

    Perception of Other Quadras
    Alpha
    Gammas tend to perceive Alpha types as creative, generally well-meaning, and friendly and pleasant people, especially as a group, as a first impression. Later, Gammas tend to see Alphas as lacking ambition in the longer term, overly concerned with sensorial pleasure and comfort, and overly demanding of, and sensitive to, external emotional expression without making much effort to focus on deeper feelings involved.

    Beta
    Gammas tend to regard Beta types as driven, ambitious people with a sense of purpose and who can get things done, usually with very strong views, as in political issues or ways of approaching work, which Gammas tend to see as not backed by sufficient factual confirmation and therefore too ideological. Gammas also may regard Betas as two-faced when bent on achieving a goal, and too concerned with their social status, and that of others, within any given social group.

    Delta
    Gammas tend to perceive Delta types as kindly, well-meaning and creative people, but perhaps too present-focused and lacking ambition with a longer-term perspective, as well as being overly welcoming and forgiving of people whom Gammas may regard as undeserving.

    Naruto want to become a Hokage, he come with a question: "being acepted by everyone to become a hokage or become a hokage to be accepted by everyone?". This clearly a Aristocratic type's value: their place in society. Also all the world piece shit and talking no jutsu...

    Take a look at a true SEE: Luffy (One Piece): He want to go on an adventure, everyone who want to join him be accepted by him as his nakama. And for anyone who don't care, he just doesn't give a shit about them. He also never care about society rules and laws, alway go rampage on everywhere he want when he's in the mood. It fit very well with Gamma as the most individualistic quadra.. And Luffy could also become very physical
    abusive, which Naruto doesn't

    Young Sasuke could be ESI, but adult Sasuke is clearly a T type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    Naruto want to become a Hokage, he come with a question: "being acepted by everyone to become a hokage or become a hokage to be accepted by everyone?". This clearly a Aristocratic type's value: their place in society. Also all the world piece shit and talking no jutsu...

    Take a look at a true SEE: Luffy (One Piece): He want to go on an adventure, everyone who want to join him be accepted by him as his nakama. And for anyone who don't care, he just doesn't give a shit about them. He also never care about society rules and laws, alway go rampage on everywhere he want when he's in the mood. It fit very well with Gamma as the most individualistic quadra.. And Luffy could also become very physical
    abusive, which Naruto doesn't


    Young Sasuke could be ESI, but adult Sasuke is clearly a T type.
    ESI and EII have role Ti
    Super-Ego Block
    Introverted Logic (Ti, Ti)
    ESIs may have a tendency to become caught up in justification for their actions, and in matters of theoretical consistency, evaluation of relative importance, and objective decision-making. They commonly see the justification of their actions according to logical and existing scientific principles as important and worthwhile, and may conscientiously wish to behave rationally and sensibly -- though they may have less interest or patience in relating their actions to theoretical material that is overly abstract. However, in fields where the practical applications of their work are based on theoretical, academic, or scientific knowledge (ie, economics, medicine, design, etc) they may feel the importance of understanding the conceptual or theoretical backing behind their actions, and they may become somewhat mired in attempting to make sense of the theoretical structure, often devoting excessive time to understanding the subject, leaving out important details, twisting facts inadvertently, and losing track of their organized arguments.

    ESIs usually approach the arena of academia and theory formally, trying to make sense of abstract principles by sequential organization, memorization, and force of will. They may push themselves academically while working inefficiently to the point of wearing themselves out. They are typically more comfortable in situations involving ethical or interpersonal considerations where they can listen to their internal emotional guidance than in dealing with impersonal logical argumentation.
    https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/ESI-ISFj/


    luffy is more open minded (Ne) than naruto (brute force Se)

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    Quote Originally Posted by karas View Post

    luffy is more open minded (Ne) than naruto (brute force Se)
    .......

    Luffy is the one who always brute force his way, when Naruto talk alot to change his opponent opinion before/in/after the fight aka talking no justu. Luffy just beat the shit out of people and leave, you could consider it as open-minded since he doesn't try to change other's opinion, but in truth he just doesn't give a shit about other' point of view, as long as people don't mess with him, they are free to think/do anything as they like (democratic). But if they mess with him, they get punch (individualistic) - their is no "battle of ideas" with Luffy, it's just about who's stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    .......

    Luffy is the one who always brute force his way, when Naruto talk alot to change his opponent opinion before/in/after the fight aka talking no justu. Luffy just beat the shit out of people and leave, you could consider it as open-minded since he doesn't try to change other's opinion, but in truth he just doesn't give a shit about other' point of view, as long as people don't mess with him, they are free to think/do anything as they like (democratic). But if they mess with him, they get punch (individualistic) - their is no "battle of ideas" with Luffy, it's just about who's stronger.
    Super-Ego Block
    Extroverted Sensing (Se, Se)
    IEEs have the capability and ability to be direct and firm with others in such activities as giving direct commands or making categorical statements about things perceived. However, the period of time when this occurs in an IEE is generally short-lived. As soon as the IEE starts to think about and starts to seriously consider the negative connotations of their directness or firmness (Se), for example, fear of instilling fear in another person in such a way that it would cause the person to be timid to or even scared to approach the IEE thereby distorting the personal bonds the IEE has with the person (Fi), the IEE will back away from making such statements. Therefore these direct and categorical statements are quite difficult for an IEE to make, even if the IEE understands the benefits of being direct or firm with others, such as the benefits of being firm or direct with children in parenthood.

    If an IEE is directly challenged or if an IEE observes a task a person demonstrates that is subsequently performed by the IEE or a group that the IEE is in (such as a teacher showing a classroom how to put together a widget, and the classroom then is instructed to put together their own widget), the IEE will consciously want to show their propensity and ability in performing the task as good as, if not better or faster than the original person or at least better than the group that the IEE is in. Anything less is considered a failure. IEEs will want to show proficiency in any task that is given to them, even if novice failure is understood. This, again is to demonstrate visibly to others that "I can do it" or "I can do this satisfactorily". Failing at accomplishing this and then subsequently being shown how to do the task is embarrassing for the IEE since they feel like they "should" have been able to accomplish the task if they were shown how to do the task at least once.

    IEEs will struggle with things that require sustained willpower and self-motivation. Because of fluctuating interest levels in self-pursuits, these tasks are difficult to sustain. These tasks include (but are not limited to) staying motivated to keep a workout regimen, sticking with a diet, sticking to a routine of doing a particular errand at the same time periodically, and other similar tasks. If the willpower is not there, it cannot be artificially manufactured to get the IEE to "push through". Concordantly, attempts by other people to get the IEE to "push through" is met with resistance. Though, it may be that the IEE will heed the call begrudgingly, this is not sustainable; the IEE will find a way out if this external push persists.

    its ESTj fault


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    LSE


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    If you get this joke...lol, ye feckin' nerd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    Young Sasuke could be ESI, but adult Sasuke is clearly a T type.
    NO. I don't want to claim him in my camp. LOL

    There are real people behind these avatars on the screen. Each of us have our own stories, struggles, and lives. Think before you speak, we are more than NPCs.

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    Salman Rushdie

    https://www.idrlabs.com/enfp.php

    Rushdie's results on a Jungian type test score him as ENFP.

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    Salman Rushdie - IEE

    https://www.idrlabs.com/enfp.php

    Rushdie's results on a Jungian type test score him as ENFP.

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    Kristen Bell - IEE

    ENFP in MBTI according to some now-deleted tweet: https://twitter.com/IMKristenBell/st...80010214359040

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