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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    Are you sure? Seems to appear like IEE to me. More Ethics>Logics.
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Are you sure? Seems to appear like IEE to me. More Ethics>Logics.
    when I'm lesser sure I remark that
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    when I'm lesser sure I remark that
    I usually notice, forgive me.

    VI is still phenotypical traits, no? It only helps us to see an inductive correlation - these specific cognitive elements result in this expression etc. This does not mean that there cannot be deviations from this principle, that people cannot 'feel' like different types. After all, what really matters must be the cognitive elements, not the appearance of these?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    VI is still phenotypical traits, no?
    VI which I use is about behavior dependent from a type.

    > It only helps us to see

    It allows to identify correctly Jung types and is the most appropriate for typing as main method for people which you don't know good IRL or without specific typing methods alike test/questionnaire/interview.
    Having good typing skills mb checked good correlation of VI with a behavior and your IR effects with the types gotten by VI before.
    Before you'll positively check own type by IR it's early for you to be assured in own typing skills. Study to type people near you IRL and only then type famouses as it's significantly harder.

    Note: You got SLI by VI and then got not bad fiting of your IR test results to SLI. That IR test is created mostly by VI too. And when you did the test you used VI. So "bad" VI was concretely for you.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    you seem to have other F type
    Ya? Which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Ya? Which one?
    with a video mb I'll say
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    with a video mb I'll say
    Ya LSE need to see something in real time. Pretty much all Te types are the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Ya LSE need to see something in real time.
    nonverbal is recommended or obligate part to be sure in the whole type, generally
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    nonverbal is recommended or obligate part to be sure in the whole type, generally
    Your english has improved. You sound like a nerdy Brit.

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    @Sol
    We agree on the part that the only thing that CAN be measured is the external part of Jung types, right? By IR, questions, VI etc. We can only see the result of the cognition, not the source of it. That can only (possibly) be seen by the typed.

    >Having good typing skills mb checked good correlation of VI with a behavior and your IR effects with the types gotten by VI before.
    Yes, but it is only a correlation. There is always a chance of some sort of mismatch, maybe caused by non-Socionics factors.

    >Before you'll positively check own type by IR it's early for you to be assured in own typing skills. Study to type people near you IRL and only then type famouses as it's significantly harder.
    I am pretty positive about SLI atm, also thanks to you. I did primarily reach this conclusion through observation of own mental perception, though, and secondarily through IR with people around me. Girl in video interested me more than ''your'' IEE types.

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    Note: You got SLI by VI and then got not bad fiting of your IR test results to SLI. That IR test is created mostly by VI too. And when you did the test you used VI. So "bad" VI was concretely for you.

    I never said VI was ''bad''. I'm saying that it studies phenotypical results, just like questionnaire, tests etc. The ''genotypical'' is only available to the one percieving.


    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Your english has improved. You sound like a nerdy Brit.
    The style is from base T type. My English level was and stays still to allow read technical docs which use simpler language.
    For example, I doubt that now can to read normal books not slowly. I'd meet a lot of new words and more complex language.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Te-LSE husband, Fi-EII wife?

    honest labor needs no master

    Nothing good is a miracle, nothing lovely is a dream.

    Επί πάντων μέμνησο τα έσχατά σου, και ου μη αμαρτήσης

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    > Te-LSE husband

    not LSE
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Pauline Kael: LSE

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    Bobbie Long - ENFP


    Jacynthe Villemaire - INFJ
    Last edited by Sol; 07-20-2019 at 11:27 PM.
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    my best guess would be SLI

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    Anna Yefremova - ESTJ

    The Sim Supply - F
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    IEE

    i post old video cos she looks kind of emotionless now with all that surgery. she probably had already done her eyebrow lift there though

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    Alina Orlova - INFJ
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please
    You are right. Stereotypes are limiting and unfair.

    Here is another EII: https://www.refuse2obey.com/shop/l7q...h2eu7psnh7btnj

    Note how her eyes are closely watching for moral violations.
    Last edited by Adam Strange; 07-28-2019 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post

    my best guess would be SLI
    SLI-Si

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please
    stereotypes are what is common. to more of stereotypes is fited - the more chance it's correct
    as for that picture - just not much data to type
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You are right. Stereotypes are limiting and unfair.

    Here is another EII: https://www.refuse2obey.com/shop/l7q...h2eu7psnh7btnj

    Note how her eyes are closely watching for moral violations.
    Again, stop with the stereotypes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Again, stop with the stereotypes
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.
    And again... stop with the stereotypes. Not all EIIs are females! I'm ordering both of you, please stop with this BS!

    STOOOOPPPP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.
    Sadly, @Sol, you are correct. Stereotypes and prejudices are the way I organize my world. I hear a mosquito buzz and I just assume it's after my blood. I hold a ball out and let it go and I assume it will fall to earth.

    In my defense, I'd like to believe that I am open to my stereotypes being wrong on occasion. Sometimes, the mosquitoes are male, and sometimes astronauts let go of something and it doesn't hit the ground. Still,.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    And again... stop with the stereotypes. Not all EIIs are females! I'm ordering both of you, please stop with this BS!

    STOOOOPPPP!!!
    I never said that all EII's are female. In fact, I work with a male EII. He is a very nice guy and a good engineer. He can be quite funny.

    In fact, I worked with a male EII engineer about five years ago, too. He was an electrical engineer and he left to go build supercomputers for Cray Computers. Not your stereotypical EII at all, if there is one.

    They both are very moral people, though. Maybe that's the stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I never said that all EII's are female. In fact, I work with a male EII. He is a very nice guy and a good engineer. He can be quite funny.

    In fact, I worked with a male EII engineer about five years ago, too. He was an electrical engineer and he left to go build supercomputers for Cray Computers. Not your stereotypical EII at all, if there is one.

    They both are very moral people, though. Maybe that's the stereotype.
    Now we're talking

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    @Marep
    The very notion of language is that it is based on stereotypes/conceptuality/abstraction - verbally, it is impossible to avoid.
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Not all EIIs are females!
    heretic
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    @Marep
    The very notion of language is that it is based on stereotypes/conceptuality/abstraction - verbally, it is impossible to avoid.
    I was joking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    I was joking
    My mistake. Poe's law and whatnot.
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Bailey Parnell - mb SLI
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    IEE

    i post old video cos she looks kind of emotionless now with all that surgery. she probably had already done her eyebrow lift there though
    EIE.
    The future of Socionics:
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    Many black Americans are SEE type.

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    Marina Novikova - mb EII
    Fi, other possible: IEE, ESI


    EII
    Last edited by Sol; 08-12-2019 at 08:46 PM.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Bryan Cranston - SLI?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Alan Milne - EII


    Kira Shevchuk - mb EII

    Bryan Cranston - not SLI, other T
    Last edited by Sol; 08-16-2019 at 07:35 PM.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Emma Kirkby - IEE?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being
    There was Aps, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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