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    Hi,

    According to this page:

    http://socionics.us/celebrities/iee.shtml

    Michael J. Fox is ENFp. Just out of curiosity, I decided to investigate about his wife (Tracy pollan):

    The ABCs of Tracy Pollan's Relationships

    Tracy does not appear to be an intensely emotional or sentimental person, and she is often unaware of her own or other people's deeper feelings and emotional needs. Tears and tantrums bewilder her and make her very uncomfortable. Tracy Pollan would rather settle differences by talking things out reasonably and rationally, but she tends to ignore or poke fun at any attempt to probe her own or others' inner depths.

    Tracy Pollan avoids heavy, demanding emotional relationships and is wary of making personal commitments.

    She needs ample mental stimulation and feels close to people with whom she can share thoughts and intellectual interests. Conversation is very important to Pollan. The strong, silent partner is not for her.

    Tracy Pollan may have done extensive traveling in her early years, or in some way had a background which enables her to understand and identify with many different types of people or cultures.

    Pollan has a craving for things which are far away and foreign or for things she has never experienced before. Tracy Pollan wants to completely immerse herself in the feelings and tastes of a new place, rather than simply have facts or an intellectual appreciation. Emotionally, too, Tracy is restless and something of a wanderer.

    Pollan can be hard to get close to. Subconsciously she may feel that too much closeness in her relationships will interfere with doing what she needs to do and being her own person, so Tracy Pollan puts up subtle walls and distance herself when someone begins to want more of her than she can comfortably give. However, Pollan may cut off sources of emotional nourishment and support that way, and end up feeling alone and lonely. Tracy Pollan might even develop digestive problems. Overcoming her fears of intimacy, while at the same time affirming and acting on her autonomous needs, is the challenge here.

    In addition to Tracy's rather introverted, serious or self-contained side, she has a wild streak and urge for emotional freedom that breaks through erratically. Tracy Pollan craves both stability and excitement, and the conflict between these two impulses can make Pollan rather tense and irritable. However, they can also balance each other out. Her freer and unpredictable side will now be described.

    Her emotional attitudes and instincts tend to be quite liberal. Tracy Pollan does not want to be caged or dictated to, and she feels everyone is entitled to do as they please in their personal and emotional affairs. Pollan tends to surround herself with people who are unusual, creative, open-minded, unpredictable, restless, and changeable, and her relationships, with women in particular, may be somewhat unstable as a result. However, Tracy Pollan enjoys an element of surprise and unpredictability.

    Her thinking and acting are strongly influenced by her feelings. Tracy has great mental energy, is somewhat restless, curious and impatient, and at times she may need to slow down. Tracy Pollan loves debate and argument and also has good writing ability.

    Sensitive and sentimental, Tracy Pollan is deeply attached to her family, old friends, familiar places and the past. She is romantic and tender in love relationships, and it is of utmost importance to Pollan to remember birthdays, anniversaries, family rituals and other personally significant days. Tracy Pollan seeks caring, emotional support, and security in her love relationships. Tracy likes to be needed, as well as to cherish and protect her loved ones, of whom she is somewhat possessive.

    Promoting beauty, the arts, or entertainment can make Tracy Pollan very happy. Tracy wants to contribute something positive and loving to the world at large and she wants to be recognized for her beauty, artistic gifts, or loving generosity. Tracy Pollan may "marry" her work - that is, being more involved in her career than in her private life. Pollan is a natural host or diplomat.

    Money is liable to be an issue in her life, not because she does not have it, but because Tracy Pollan cannot or will not hold onto it. Tracy Pollan has a freehanded, generous, open attitude and would prefer to spend and enjoy and partake in the pleasures of the moment than to save, discipline or budget herself. At Pollan's worst, she wants an easy ride and friends will often let Tracy freeload because she is such an agreeable, friendly and pleasant sort. Alternatively, Pollan could let other people take advantage of her hospitality and tolerance.

    Pollan also avoids confronting difficult issues in relationships simply because it is too much trouble or too petty. Tracy Pollan just wants to have a good time.

    Tracy Pollan has a great rapport with the opposite sex, and love relationships, romance, and passion are absolutely vital to her well-being. It is rare for Tracy to go very long without an intimate companion. The physical component of relationships is also very important to Pollan. Artistic creations and projects are another way for Tracy Pollan to channel her passion.

    Her romantic relationships tend to be deep, intense, passionate, and highly emotional. It is "all or nothing" with her. Oftentimes Tracy Pollan is irresistibly attracted to someone and feels that she has very little choice or control over her powerful feelings.

    She may well be highly magnetic and sexually attractive herself. Tracy Pollan should beware of using this power to manipulate people, for she could gain the reputation of being a "user".
    It comes out of an astrology page...

    http://www.topsynergy.com/famous/Tracy_Pollan.asp

    However, ignore that for a moment and focus on the descriptive value of the text. It is remarable how accurate it is as describing her as a typical ISTp.

    For those who don't know, MJF developed parkinson and TP has been deadly loyal to him, regardless of misfortunes. It shows, in real life, that a healthy duality couple, once established, is likely to be life-long.

    It is also curious that the page mentions her relationship with Kevin Bacon. I'm not sure about his type (I guess ISTj), which shows that the natural tendency of people is to look out for similar persons first. That might explain why so many people considers marriage as negative thing, which MJF and TP clearly shows it is not if done properly.
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    Default Examples of Deltas

    These are all actual, genuine, real life deltas, (although one is dead, and I have a feeling another is a la weekend at bernie's...)

    The purpose of this "guide" is to give an accurate picture of how Deltas look/sound/feel psychologically in conversation.


    Bob Dole -- LSE




    Jeff Daniels -- SLI




    Heather Locklear -- IEE




    Fred Rogers -- EII

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    President Gerald Ford -- SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Heather Locklear -- IEE
    Hell no! She's .
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    LOL, winterpark

    if i said "the color yellow is yellow," what would you say? (i'm guessing, "no! it's purple!")

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    I watched it and I do think she's IEE.

    Irrelevant tangent: I have met David Letterman, and he's a really great guy.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    if i said "the color yellow is yellow," what would you say?
    I'd say you are retarded.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    great... same thing you say to anyone who tries to explain Socionics to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    I feel as if IEEs wear their externally, it doesn't run deep.
    That sounds pretty much true.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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    You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    That sounds pretty much true.
    that certainly rings true for me as well.
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    Please list some famous Deltas (anyone more current than, e.g., that guy who played MacGyver?)

    ESTj -- George H.W. Bush

    ENFp -- George Orwell; Michael J. Fox

    INFj -- Abraham Lincoln

    ISTp -- Ulysses S. Grant; the guy who played MacGyver

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    I just looked at Rick's old pages of famous deltas (emphasis on old--I'm not sure if he'd stand by the pages now,) and I'm beginning to understand why there's still confusion re: what's SLI vs. what's LSI ... Angelina Jolie, Vladimir Vytosky and John Goodman are listed as SLI... (Spencer Tracy is as well--and I haven't seen enough of him to know if he is, but his photos make me suspect that he's not... Gerard Depardieu as well.)

    Jean Gabin is the only person on that page who looks like an SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Please list some famous Deltas (anyone more current than, e.g., that guy who played MacGyver?)

    ESTj -- George H.W. Bush Te-ISTp

    ENFp -- George Orwell; Michael J. Fox Fox, yes. Orwell, No

    INFj -- Abraham Lincoln Can't be sure. Not the most obvious benchmark, assuming that's supposed to be the point of these worthless, uninformative threads of yours.

    ISTp -- Ulysses S. Grant; the guy who played MacGyver Te-ESTj (for Grant)seems more likely based on VI, but close enough. Richard Dean Anderson is indeed Te-ISTp.

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    I just looked at Rick's old pages of famous deltas (emphasis on old--I'm not sure if he'd stand by the pages now,) and I'm beginning to understand why there's still confusion re: what's SLI vs. what's LSI ... Angelina Jolie, Vladimir Vytosky and John Goodman are listed as SLI... (Spencer Tracy is as well--and I haven't seen enough of him to know if he is, but his photos make me suspect that he's not... Gerard Depardieu as well.)

    Jean Gabin is the only person on that page who looks like an SLI

    Spencer Tracy is an obvious Te-ISTp. Depardieu looks Ep and Jolie and at least one or two others listed as SLI are Alpha irrationals. - DeAnte
    I agree that Rick is one of the shittiest typers known to man. I disagree completely with the assumption that you are any better. If you are attempting to offer real life examples of the Delta quadra sociotypes for purposes of creating a realistic view and understanding of them, which you ought not to be doing at all, then it would probably be best to include subtypes as well.

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    m'kay ... i'm lookin for delta celebrities here...

    delta celebrities...

    anyone?

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    Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Please list some famous Deltas
    Look here.

    For example:
    ESTJ - Kevin Sorbo
    INFJ - Emily Watson
    ENFP - Mena Suvari
    ISTP - Charlie Sheen

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    Question Possible deltas

    Hey deltas,
    I feel that I'm a delta. Here are some celebrity I feel are delta too who i favor in expression and looks.
    hilary swank
    rachel ray
    america ferrera
    neve campbell
    keanu reeves
    oprah winfrey

    I don't have a clue to which delta type I am.

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    Oprah is ISFp
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Oprah is usually typed as EIE, although some have offered ESE based on her interactions with Tom Cruise and other videos. She's not Delta; she's probably Beta.

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    Hi

    i think Rachel Ray is ESFj, although maybe you could say ESTj. What type did you think she was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwsparklingdazzy View Post
    Hey deltas,
    I feel that I'm a delta. Here are some celebrity I feel are delta too who i favor in expression and looks. ...
    I don't have a clue to which delta type I am.
    I feel Oprah is Alpha or Beta. Ferarra - maybe Alpha. She is very Fe competent. Swank - intensity of eyes and curtain-opening smile - looks Beta, but, possibly Gamma. Keanu and Neve, yes, possibly Delta.
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Default Examples of EIIs

    Stoya: EII-Fi sx/sp e4 - model, columnist, and porn actress.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imm0geiMfqc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enUyggxF6WM



    Carice van Houten: EII-Fi - actress, plays Melisandre in Game of Thrones.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhkZTJS94ME



    Holliday Grainger: EII-Ne - actress
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyKFzsYa-bs



    John Green - EII-Ne sp/so
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak8RTyRes3o

    John Oliver - EII-Ne so/sx 6w5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g

    Oliver Sacks - EII-Ne so/sx
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHb_aqP4JgY

    John Wozniak (on the left) - EII-Ne
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9LRbOrU-bw

    Jan Svankmajer - EII-Ne
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykdk9tZiS8Q

    Adrien Brody - EII-Fi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adofRpJckkc

    James Orbinski - EII-Fi so/sp 1w9
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4eX697qbE

    Chris Corner of IAMX - EII-Fi sp/sx 4w5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUIcdXXIR-c

    and of course Morgan Freeman (not sure of his subtype)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkv685saieo
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    EII-Fi?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suedehead View Post
    EII-Fi?

    IJ temperament, not ISTj. most likely INFj, although i think Iris' example is an INFj as well.

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    I watched about 3 minutes of the video. @Suedehead he seems unlike my EII friends. Even when they are passionate about something, there is a holding-back quality to their language. Wikisocion describes it as Ni demonstrative with Se-polr: a combination of a willingness to consider they might be wrong, and opposition to use of power, for lack of a better word. An EII friend told me that there might always be another possibility out there, so he never comes down forcefully when sharing a belief. They might have a firm internal stance on an issue for their own behavior, but don't value Fe or Se in selling their idea or making something important happen. They sort of radiate this unspoken strong desire, as opposed to persuasive language. He is much more exhorting with his points. Not sure of his type, but even just a still shot looks EP to me (at 2:36.)
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    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    Even when they are passionate about something, there is a holding-back quality to their language. Wikisocion describes it as Ni demonstrative with Se-polr: a combination of a willingness to consider they might be wrong, and opposition to use of power, for lack of a better word.
    God I find this so annoying in people

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    God I find this so annoying in people
    I think that means you're a horrible person.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    my insanely stupid idea: what if joss whedon is sli? (oh god, it's a hunch?) all i did was listen to the commentary for the avengers and read a few articles.

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    ^ now i'm wondering if my EII friend is actually IEE again. but i wouldn't say that describes maritsa either.

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    @Suedehead. I have been trying to find some EII videos for you - of people who are similar to my own EII friends. It is hard because so many videos are of performers who have been trained how to communicate and be persuasive, their speeches aren't natural. But I liked this one. Rebecca Hall is slightly more physically expressive and confident in her speech, but has that holding back reserve in her voice that I was looking for, she is not trying to persuade. Her posture is upright, but she is not solidly built, there is a certain fragility that I associate more with intuitives. Her movements are precise. There is no IP slouchiness or leisure in her posture. She is, however, fairly fidgety in this video and I have noticed that in other videos as well. That is not a common trait among my EII friends, they are fairly still.



    At around 7:00 ish she starts talking about working with Johnny Depp, and her enthusiasm is so unique and understated.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
    .


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    I love this. It reminds me of the EII-Fi girl I asked out. I don't know if its the constant concern of the type but her face always seemed red to me.





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    Quote Originally Posted by StridingStrider View Post
    I love this. It reminds me of the EII-Fi girl I asked out. I don't know if its the constant concern of the type but her face always seemed red to me.
    You're right. She seems to be in a constant state of blushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    You're right. She seems to be in a constant state of blushing.
    It's cute.





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    Quote Originally Posted by StridingStrider View Post
    It's cute.
    Yes, I gathered you were fond of it from your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    @Suedehead. I have been trying to find some EII videos for you - of people who are similar to my own EII friends. It is hard because so many videos are of performers who have been trained how to communicate and be persuasive, their speeches aren't natural. But I liked this one. Rebecca Hall is slightly more physically expressive and confident in her speech, but has that holding back reserve in her voice that I was looking for, she is not trying to persuade. Her posture is upright, but she is not solidly built, there is a certain fragility that I associate more with intuitives. Her movements are precise. There is no IP slouchiness or leisure in her posture. She is, however, fairly fidgety in this video and I have noticed that in other videos as well. That is not a common trait among my EII friends, they are fairly still.



    At around 7:00 ish she starts talking about working with Johnny Depp, and her enthusiasm is so unique and understated.
    thanks for posting this
    I showed it to my husband and asked him to tell me whether it's how I come across. When he turned on the video he burst out laughing and said "yes, that's actually exactly how you act!". (He didn't watch the whole thing, it's a success I got him to watch a bit, lol ). Then upon my questioning him he turned it on once more and analysed saying things like "yes, now you think", "then you scratch your face or take hair some hair away", "then you start talking and move like this", "now you look away", "then you..." etc. He said that watching the first 30 seconds to a minute of this video is like watching me speak with all the mannerisms...

    I've seen her typed EII-Ne before I think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    thanks for posting this
    I showed it to my husband and asked him to tell me whether it's how I come across. When he turned on the video he burst out laughing and said "yes, that's actually exactly how you act!". (He didn't watch the whole thing, it's a success I got him to watch a bit, lol ). Then upon my questioning him he turned it on once more and analysed saying things like "yes, now you think", "then you scratch your face or take hair some hair away", "then you start talking and move like this", "now you look away", "then you..." etc. He said that watching the first 30 seconds to a minute of this video is like watching me speak with all the mannerisms...

    I've seen her typed EII-Ne before I think?
    From what i've seen from you even expression and facial structure are similar! (seems like a good fit for you )

    Edit: say, this isn't YOU right?!?!? cuz having a celebrity on the socionics team would do SOOOO much for our credibility! look what scientology got out of that Tom Cruise deal!!!


    wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    From what i've seen from you even expression and facial structure are similar! (seems like a good fit for you )

    Edit: say, this isn't YOU right?!?!? cuz having a celebrity on the socionics team would do SOOOO much for our credibility! look what scientology got out of that Tom Cruise deal!!!


    wait...
    hahaha, yeah, that's it, I guess it's time to admit it's me Rebecca
    as we speak we're typing my husband (well, future one, first I need to untangle him from this Ti beast's arms) in this thread, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    thanks for posting this
    I showed it to my husband and asked him to tell me whether it's how I come across. When he turned on the video he burst out laughing and said "yes, that's actually exactly how you act!". (He didn't watch the whole thing, it's a success I got him to watch a bit, lol ). Then upon my questioning him he turned it on once more and analysed saying things like "yes, now you think", "then you scratch your face or take hair some hair away", "then you start talking and move like this", "now you look away", "then you..." etc. He said that watching the first 30 seconds to a minute of this video is like watching me speak with all the mannerisms...

    I've seen her typed EII-Ne before I think?
    I just reread the EII subtype descriptions http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=EII_subtypes.

    I will take a guess, and say that my friends are probably the Fi subtype, they are not as animated as her, and more likely to gaze into your eyes seriously, and not move around as much. She is seriously fidgety. I just haven't studied subtypes much at all. Her eyes seem to be drifting away a lot, and maybe that could be Ne. Her movements almost led me to think IEE. But in the end I would still say EII because of her posture, among a few other things. The main important thing I wanted to convey with the video was the voice, the holding back quality.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
    .


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k

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    Keir Gilchrist is not EII
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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