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    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/
    When you are ready post here and I will add your gallery.

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ping-Galleries

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    Supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not. I said this because most of the examples for SLI seem to resemble facial structure and shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragdoll Cat View Post
    most of those IEE don't seem IEE to me. Also supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not.
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley

    Aldous Leonard Huxley was an English writer and one of the most prominent members of the famous Huxley family. He spent the latter part of his life in the United States, living in Los Angeles from 1937 until his death in 1963. Best known for his novels and wide-ranging output of essays, he also published short stories, poetry, travel writing, and film stories and scripts. Through his novels and essays Huxley functioned as an examiner and sometimes critic of social mores, norms and ideals. Huxley was a humanist but was also interested towards the end of his life in spiritual subjects such as parapsychology and philosophical mysticism. By the end of his life, Huxley was widely acknowledged as one of the pre-eminent intellectuals of his time.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung

     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    yes, I thought on Ni for him too.

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    interesting. huxley was the one I was sceptical about, that's why I'm posting my lists here. thanks for the comment. I will look into him again. I don't use V.I. at all in my typings, but obviously I noticed that some people look very similar. the SLI examples are mostly german politicians. I've spend quite a lot of time watching interviews with them. I'm very sure of their type. germany is a country that is run by delta ST types. what are the IEE typings that you disagree with? @Ragdoll Cat
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    @soundofconfusion

    "EII"
    Björk Guðmundsdóttir - SEI
    Ingmar Bergman - EIE
    Werner Herzog - I*TP
    Carl Rogers - mb
    Emily Dickinson - doubtful
    Hayao Miyazaki - mb LSI
    Isao Takahata - I*FP
    Haruki Murakami - P
    Virginia Woolf - mb
    Leonard Cohen - no
    Jeff Buckley - IEI
    Nick Drake - no. more T
    Stephin Merritt - no
    Win Butler - no

    nice try

    make bloggers list. you may type them by impressions from nonverbal
    historical people without videos are doubtful to type at all

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    Thomas Henry Huxley - mb EIE
    Aldous Huxley - mb ENT*
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @soundofconfusion

    "EII"
    Björk Guðmundsdóttir - SEI
    Werner Herzog - I*TP
    Carl Rogers - mb
    Hayao Miyazaki - mb LSI
    Isao Takahata - I*FP
    Leonard Cohen - no
    Jeff Buckley - IEI
    Stephin Merritt - no

    nice try
    these are the ones where I'm a 100% sure. I don't really care about bloggers. I started the gallery because I wanted to know the types of my favorite artists, writers etc. it was more of a personal project. I worked on it with two friends and we often discussed the typings. I think we had this discussion already, I think it's very much possible to type historical figures. I removed Huxley from the gallery for now.

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    Nick Drake might have been an ILI. this was the second option I thought about. judging his music I'm leaning more towards EII. I can really only type people that I find very interesting, because I spend hours reading about their life. typing Miyazaki as LSI seems pretty absurd to me tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    these are the ones where I'm a 100% sure
    so high assurance, especially with the lack of good typing data for someones, is a trait of novices. as after a time you should change many opinions about types. also your lack of reasonable criticism mb due to your F type

    > I don't really care about bloggers.

    lists are useful mostly as examples of types
    bloggers are good for this. better than famouses without many videointerviews
    also you'd studed to type better during typing of them

    > I started the gallery because I wanted to know the types of my favorite artists, writers etc.

    you wanted to understand those people better. and then to share this knowledge with those who has similar interest to them
    not a common task for lists. your people-centered approach reminds F type

    > I think it's very much possible to type historical figures

    It has much more possible chance of a mistake than in typing of today people. Significant part of info about them is doubtful: filtered, distorted and limited. Without good nonverbal you'll type by a half of useful data what reduces the chance to be correct. So it's often doubtful to be highly sure in their types from reasonable point.
    Sometimes there are photos and they give assured type and then you read biography, check what those people did and said and may notice the good match with the type supposed by nonverbal. If to take typing by photos seriously, as it's not good info about nonverbal in general. Any other cases I'd did not take as assured enough for lists or would noticed that lesser sure in those types.
    There is objective significant difference in the quality of data about modern people and those who lived long ago and no videointerviews were left. This objectively reduces the chances to be correct about their types. To ignore this is the irresponsibility. There should be more of modern and interesting for you people - they are more appropriate for lists.

    I recommend you to make a typing theme with your videointerview. There is too much to doubt in base T as your type.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    so high assurance, especially with the lack of good typing data for someones, is a trait of novices. as after a time you should change many opinions about types. also your lack of reasonable criticism mb due to your F type
    I dislike to be so negative in this thread here, but I find your postings mostly very irritating. I'm just going to ignore you from now on. you make too many assumptions about me, repeat the same messages over and over again, and your typings often don't make any sense to me.

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