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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Hidden stress. Like he will freak out over something going wrong.
    Lesser assurance in weak functional regions which is strong at you may give this impression. In my ST perception was no such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Lesser assurance in weak functional regions which is strong at you may give this impression. In my ST perception was no such.
    I'm also a fully functioning human being, Sol, I can talk about lesser F things if you want, regardless of my sociotype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    I'm also a fully functioning human being
    Jung type means the mind pays much more of the attention to a half of important data, meanwhile all kind of that data is equally important. It's about half-functioning, mind's accentuation.
    In average, this leads that half of an info is processed with much lesser skill and hence assurance, compared to people having that info in strong functions. So you easy may notice lesser assurance and worse skills of people having weak functions which are strong at you, - in a behavior related to that functions.

    "Hidden stress. Like he will freak out over something going wrong."

    You talk about emotions. Expectation of negative emotional behavior - it's where he is comparably weak and may behave by not best way. Those who have F types easier notice problems in emotional behavior and have higher interest to discuss emotions.
    Also the accent on negative impressions, expecting of possible aggression, not trusting - may be related to not good IR.
    The situation points on the possibility of your Fe type.

    Then. The talking about "hiden" and the future ("will") - Ni, which may be your assured region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Jung type means the mind pays much more of the attention to a half of important data, meanwhile all kind of that data is equally important. It's about half-functioning, mind's accentuation.
    In average, this leads that half of an info is processed with much lesser skill and hence assurance, compared to people having that info in strong functions. So you easy may notice lesser assurance and worse skills of people having weak functions which are strong at you, - in a behavior related to that functions.

    "Hidden stress. Like he will freak out over something going wrong."

    You talk about emotions. Expectation of negative emotional behavior - it's where he is comparably weak and may behave by not best way. Those who have F types easier notice problems in emotional behavior and have higher interest to discuss emotions.
    Also the accent on negative impressions, expecting of possible aggression, not trusting - may be related to not good IR.
    The situation points on the possibility of your Fe type.

    Then. The talking about "hiden" and the future ("will") - Ni, which may be your assured region.
    Or.. I extend the same courtesy to you and we both say people who practise socionics can notice, discuss, play around with any IE in seemingly any configuration they like because, we are not automatonic sociotype machines. Cool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Jung type means the mind pays much more of the attention to a half of important data, meanwhile all kind of that data is equally important. It's about half-functioning, mind's accentuation.
    In average, this leads that half of an info is processed with much lesser skill and hence assurance, compared to people having that info in strong functions. So you easy may notice lesser assurance and worse skills of people having weak functions which are strong at you, - in a behavior related to that functions.
    Yes we'll this is a website and we are both long time members and I think it's somewhat hypocritical of you to say you get to be a ST type that's discussing highly N and T and F discussions of this website and then in the next breath say others can't have the same courtesy afforded you.

    "Hidden stress. Like he will freak out over something going wrong."

    You talk about emotions. Expectation of negative emotional behavior - it's where he is comparably weak and may behave by not best way. Those who have F types easier notice problems in emotional behavior and have higher interest to discuss emotions.
    Yes, he is looking for that "friend" to show understanding. To bad I do not empathize entirely because I am not able to. I can't offer what is needed in the exact right way.

    Also the accent on negative impressions, expecting of possible aggression, not trusting - may be related to not good IR.
    The situation points on the possibility of your Fe type.
    I think multiple things and sometimes just type one of them. Lots of times, like right now, I'm on my cell phone and find typing words tedious. Would you prefer I sympathize with the man ? Just because I have a more negative viewpoint of ESTjs, does not mean I also do not have a positive outlook as well. The issue is you are looking for duals and when you are not getting that positive feedback it makes you need to battle type instead of focusing on the content being discussed.

    Then. The talking about "hiden" and the future ("will") - Ni, which may be your assured region.
    Could also be a function of any IE to be honest. I know ESTjs, they can and do get upset, even though from your perspective you are acting "nice". Several prominent socionists from Russia from the 80s and 90s have observe the same thing and ESTj and ENFj all follow similar patterns of lowered ability to handle stress (gasp he said patterns must be Ni!) Hidden simply means contained out of sight. Si sense this as well. Maybe I'm using Se and seeing his bulging neck vein when he talks, or the tensed muscles pulling the skin tight from around his eyes, or the slight reddening on his skin when his sentences end. ?

    You want me to ask why he is high strung, and THAT would be a function of certain IEs, and often it's about Fi/Fe issues. But it could also mean a whole myriad of sources. Maybe this is where you would like your duals or semiduals, or activators, or supervisors help?

    Start using your brain Sol. I know you have the potential (gasp he said potential, Ne type it is!)

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    Olga Kudryashova - ISTP

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    Daniel Mackler, IEE or EII
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    Daniel Mackler - P, N. more for E as gives a wish to give him something to calm


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    Kudryashova's expression reminds me of Putin's somewhat, but more innocent

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    ESTj Si type

    I used to have a 30 30.



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    Viktoriya Tatur [3:55] - INFJ

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    He's typed ESFP by most places.

    Some are ENFj, but i think IEE. If you watch the whole thing he's not on the Ni clock, had no future push in personal visions/ ambitions as he's intimated and stated, and seems EP temperament.

    Thoughts?



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    Wayne Dyer - mb INFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Wayne Dyer - mb INFJ
    Yeah I think you are right. I have one in my family and it looks similar. IDK how it slipped my mind. I think the extraverted bias on his type might have played a role on my thinking.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatYeahOK View Post
    I think the extraverted bias on his type might have played a role on my thinking.
    About famouses is known a few. So about types opinions are formed surfacely. If someone gives public lectures and holds assured during this - appears a predisposition to think him as extraverted.
    To take into account impressions from nonverbal is not what people often do. Even in Socionics, where nonverbal data was described by Augustinavichiute. Among MBTI users nonverbal data should not be used much.
    100% of votes from MBTI side on personality database are for E.

    INFP is 2nd for him.

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    Celebrity again. LSE



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    EII lol

    Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.

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    LearnArabicwithMaha - mb ENFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    Daniel Mackler, IEE or EII
    Love the guy. He's got that "authentically benevolent" vibe I get from certain people. Also, different but relatable at the same time.

    [edit:] He kinda reminds me of that guy from "Two and a Half Men", whatever his name was (not Charlie, the other one). I think I used to type him EII, although the show as a whole seemed more Alpha.
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    Glenn Greenwald (one of the best [my favorite] journalists) has to be Delta.

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Metatron - mb ENFP

    Kallmekris - mb ENFJ
    Glenn Greenwald - *NTP
    Last edited by Sol; 06-10-2023 at 10:10 AM.

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    IEE (INTP self typer)


    Very focused on relations.

    Sort of Casanova, had conflict with police, was a gang member. In terms of functions Ne, Fi, Fe, Se are visible.
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    Steve Richards - mb ESFP

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    Nick Fortino, EII
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    Nick Fortino, EII
    I'm in a bad mood now from watching this video. Really irritating person. He has this stereotypical psychologist persona, like he is playing a role of a supreme guru.

    Very complicated advice, very Te. Probably EII.
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    Nick Fortino - mb INFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I'm in a bad mood now from watching this video. Really irritating person. He has this stereotypical psychologist persona, like he is playing a role of a supreme guru.

    Very complicated advice, very Te. Probably EII.
    I mean he is right, but you have to understand how things work, and how your own mind works in order to get out of a bad mood.

    Honestly, letting a video put you in a bad mood is just ridiculous, why aren't you more open to other perspectives? Why don't you just label and look for correlations at least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I'm in a bad mood now from watching this video. Really irritating person. He has this stereotypical psychologist persona, like he is playing a role of a supreme guru.

    Very complicated advice, very Te. Probably EII.
    He is teaching LSEs' role function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Really irritating person. He has this stereotypical psychologist persona, like he is playing a role of a supreme guru.
    It's common when someone is assured and helps to those who has lower competence. It's not psychology work specifics.
    If you'll look at someone with better IR you'll see the similar, but mb will perceive more positively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I'm in a bad mood now from watching this video. Really irritating person. He has this stereotypical psychologist persona, like he is playing a role of a supreme guru.

    Very complicated advice, very Te. Probably EII.
    I don't really see anything guru about it (and I dislike gurus). Seemed like useful information to me, not irritating at all. A good way to try to deal with a bad mood, it's rare that there's actually something useful posted on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    it's rare that there's actually something useful posted on this forum
    As it's about types. And it's rare when posters understand the typology good to post useful and to evaluate correctly the existing.
    They often fail to understand even own types. As never do appropriate IR checking for this until noticing fiting to the theory. You are among examples and it's among reasons you have bad opinion about typology usefulness, as can't be other with wrong types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    As it's about types. And it's rare when posters understand the typology good to post useful and to evaluate correctly the existing.
    They often fail to understand even own types. As never do appropriate IR checking for this until noticing fiting to the theory. You are among examples and it's among reasons you have bad opinion about typology usefulness, as can't be other with wrong types.
    I'm sorry your life is in such a state that you have not only one, but two usernames on this forum and waste your time talking to people who don't care about what you have to say. Of course it could be worse, you could have been sent to Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    Nick Fortino, EII
    In the beginning, he looks like he's trying hard to have confidence or something and it looks fake, even annoying, but it fades in 2 minutes or so. He becomes rather animated towards the middle of the video, he starts by coming alive, but then the pinacle of it makes his eyes look deranged for a bit and then his energy goes down. It's a subtle change but it did affect my watching experience negatively.

    I think he values Si and Fi. Si because he talks about feeling the inner sensations, Fi because his energy builds up but his face/tone barely changes. He seems introverted, no role or demo Fe/Se here as he needs to build up energy and it falls down quickly after. Fi lead over Si. I have no proper explaination for the one, just feels like J lead, I guess he appears a little stiff, more so than an Si lead would.

    His advice is not complicated imo, he explained it in too many words for my taste but it might be intended to give space to the person watching to take in his overall calm demeanor and be soothed. To me, all he said was "Useless bad mood? Find something positive to hang unto, be it external or internal" but in many more words.

    The video had a soothing effect on the bad state I woke up in even tho I felt negatively about the energy thing from too little to too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adage View Post
    In the beginning, he looks like he's trying hard to have confidence or something and it looks fake, even annoying, but it fades in 2 minutes or so. He becomes rather animated towards the middle of the video, he starts by coming alive, but then the pinacle of it makes his eyes look deranged for a bit and then his energy goes down. It's a subtle change but it did affect my watching experience negatively.

    I think he values Si and Fi. Si because he talks about feeling the inner sensations, Fi because his energy builds up but his face/tone barely changes. He seems introverted, no role or demo Fe/Se here as he needs to build up energy and it falls down quickly after. Fi lead over Si. I have no proper explaination for the one, just feels like J lead, I guess he appears a little stiff, more so than an Si lead would.

    His advice is not complicated imo, he explained it in too many words for my taste but it might be intended to give space to the person watching to take in his overall calm demeanor and be soothed. To me, all he said was "Useless bad mood? Find something positive to hang unto, be it external or internal" but in many more words.

    The video had a soothing effect on the bad state I woke up in even tho I felt negatively about the energy thing from too little to too much.
    Yeah I felt the video was kinda relaxing to watch and somewhat relevant to me since I often don't know what or why I feel and logic tends not to help that much in figuring it out.

    Welcome back, quality of the forum just went up.

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