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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    LSE over IEE I'd think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    Reason why? Appears like more emphasis on Te and no weak Ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    Reason why? Appears like more emphasis on Te and no weak Ti
    I was not about T.
    Why - as common, my intuitive impressions from the nonverbal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I was not about T.
    Why - as common, my intuitive impressions from the nonverbal.
    Such impressions are not worth much unless you can explain using the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    Such impressions are not worth much unless you can explain using the system.
    A method is useful in case it gives practically useful results. Intuition (the process of which is impossobly to describe) is one of Jung's functions not lesser meaningful than others.

    The system is the Jung's typology. The intuitive impressions are the descriptions of peoples traits in it.
    The source of information as nonverbal and its intuitive analysis was objecively proved as useful for typing by higher than accidental matches in a experiment. Subjectively it's proved for years of my experience of watching peoples' traits and behavior after their types were supposed by nonverbal and then fited good to the theory.
    There is my IR test which gives results better than accidental where types of examples were gotten by nonverbal mostly.

    All that was explained before and was known to you. So your assertion is wrong, incompetent from theory point and rejects the known practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    A method is useful in case it gives practically useful results. While intuition (the process of which is impossobly to describe) is one of Jung's functions not lesser meaningful than others.

    The system is the Jung's typology. The intuitive impressions are the descriptions of peoples traits in it.
    The source of information as nonverbal and its intuitive analysis was objecively proved as useful for typing by higher than accidental matches in a experiment. Subjectively it's proved for years of my experience of watching peoples' traits and behavior after their types were supposed by nonverbal and then fited good to the theory.
    There is my IR test which gives results better than accidental where types of examples were gotten by nonverbal mostly.

    All that was explained before and was known to you. So your assertion is wrong, incompetent from theory point and rejects the known practice.

    What is the use of "nonverbal and its intuitive analysis" if you can't explain how you arrived at your conclusions?

    "was objecively proved as useful for typing by higher than accidental matches in a experiment."

    I don't care about the things you claim to have proven

    "Subjectively it's proved for years of my experience of watching peoples' traits and behavior after their types were supposed by nonverbal and then fited good to the theory."

    The problem with this approach is that, unless you can somehow show me how your impressions fit with the system, I don't care if you have ten thousand years of experience. Your method is not clarified. For all I know, you have been following a flawed method for years. How can I trust if you can't demonstrate how it works? You don't need to explain it here, you can simply link me to resources of yours which demonstrate how your typings have been "fited good to the theory"

    "All that was explained before and was known to you. So your assertion is wrong, incompetent from theory point and rejects the known practice."

    I asked you a very simple question. How did you conclude Idubbbz is an intuitive type? The only thing you have proven to me is that you're incapable of answering a simple question. It is an absolute embarrassment when a person claims to have such amazing Socioncs knowledge when they can't answer a simple question without resorting to demonstrating my incompetence. You just shifted the goal post here. What are you hoping to achieve? Really search inside of yourself and answer.
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    @Pano Lou
    it's not needed to know how a TV works to use it. while you claimed above the opposite

    read about intuition at Jung. try to use it for typing to notice positive results. then will be easier for you do not claim baseless nonsense that logical reasoning is the only way to type correctly
    also look about "black box" models
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @Pano Lou
    it's not needed to know how a TV works to use it. while you claimed above the opposite
    To compare a TV to a personality model like Socionics is called a "faulty comparison" and it is an error in logic.
    "My love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it, I'm well aware, as winter changes the trees. My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath: a source of little visible delight, but necessary. Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind"



    "Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am living; you said I killed you—haunt me, then!... Be with me always—take any form—drive me mad! only do not leave me in this abyss, where I cannot find you!"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @Pano Lou
    it's not needed to know how a TV works to use it. while you claimed above the opposite

    read about intuition at Jung. try to use it for typing to notice positive results. then will be easier for you do not claim baseless nonsense that logical reasoning is the only way to type correctly
    also look about "black box" models
    By profession, I'm an engineer. I know what a black box model of a system is. For this to work, you would have to demonstrate how a person can be approproximated to be a black box. You claim you can do it, yet you can't explain how.

    There's a certain difference between logical reasoning and mathematical modelling. I have read Jung. I fail to see what connection that has to do to your subjective black box interpretations of a person's personality.

    You claim this is baseless nonsense, yet you're only making yourself look more incompetent.
    "My love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it, I'm well aware, as winter changes the trees. My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath: a source of little visible delight, but necessary. Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind"



    "Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am living; you said I killed you—haunt me, then!... Be with me always—take any form—drive me mad! only do not leave me in this abyss, where I cannot find you!"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    he's LSE
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Mishkali - ILE

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    Michael Rooker

    LSE. His wife looks EIE though so maybe he is LSI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    Michael Rooker

    LSE. His wife looks EIE though so maybe he is LSI?
    I've only seen Michael Rooker in Guardians of the Galaxy, where he gave off a definite LSE vibe under the blue paint and Mohawk. But looking at his pictures, he looks more like an SLE to me.

    He's like Sparky interacting with the IEI in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HM_gPFsDpc

    In turn, when I saw Karen Gillan in Dr. Who, I would have sworn she was an ESI-Fi. When I saw her character of Nebula in Guardian of the Galaxy II, my clear impression of Nebula was that she was identical to my LSE sister. I was shocked to discover that Nebula was played by Karen Gillan.

    Maybe GGII turns everyone into LSE's.

    Or maybe Karen Gillan is EII and she was channeling her inner dual in that movie.

    Come to think of it, Karen Gillam does tend to dress like a Delta Infantile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I've only seen Michael Rooker in Guardians of the Galaxy, where he gave off a definite LSE vibe under the blue paint and Mohawk. But looking at his pictures, he looks more like an SLE to me.

    He's like Sparky interacting with the IEI in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HM_gPFsDpc

    In turn, when I saw Karen Gillan in Dr. Who, I would have sworn she was an ESI-Fi. When I saw her character of Nebula in Guardian of the Galaxy II, my clear impression of Nebula was that she was identical to my LSE sister. I was shocked to discover that Nebula was played by Karen Gillan.

    Maybe GGII turns everyone into LSE's.

    Or maybe Karen Gillan is EII and she was channeling her inner dual in that movie.

    Come to think of it, Karen Gillam does tend to dress like a Delta Infantile.

    Now my heart is broken. I was crushing on Amy Pond.

    Saaaaaame. I love Karen Gillan. Probably the only reason I stuck with Doctor Who after Davies and Tenant's departures from the show, I was too heartbroken to go on and refused to even give Matt Smith a chance, for about 0.17 seconds. Then I thought that his performance and doctor actually hold some potential.
    I was 70% sure I'll keep watching the show.
    Karen Gillan was the other 30%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babooshka View Post
    Saaaaaame. I love Karen Gillan. Probably the only reason I stuck with Doctor Who after Davies and Tenant's departures from the show, I was too heartbroken to go on and refused to even give Matt Smith a chance, for about 0.17 seconds. Then I thought that his performance and doctor actually hold some potential.
    I was 70% sure I'll keep watching the show.
    Karen Gillan was the other 30%.
    Karen Gillan as Amy Pond is kind of my ideal. Olimpia said that because I was born into a Delta family, my Imago is going to lean Delta, so I should look for an ESI who also leans Delta. Amy Pond seems like that to me. To be honest, though, I'm still working this out in my head. The only ESI I've met IRL so far whom I'd consider a great match is an ESI-Se CP e6w7, and I haven't interacted with her for enough hours to get a solid assurance that things would progress well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Love Lu - ENFP

    thinks herself as ESTP. mb due to E8
    ESFP is 2nd version
    Not a ESTp. ExFp.

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    Paddy McAloon: IEE-Fi?

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    IEE Fi.




    Also lmao.

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    LazyGameReviews - SLI
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post


    LazyGameReviews - SLI
    seems like LSE to me. I think he has Ne mobilizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    seems like LSE to me. I think he has Ne mobilizing.
    Interesting. Any specific places you see this? Any general observations?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Interesting. Any specific places you see this? Any general observations?
    I don't think his communication style isn't similar to people who have 4D Ti. His sentences aren't logically constructed in 4D Ti fashion. He is able to stay energetic for 40 minutes, he talks non-stop energetically, I think XSE is able to do so. He use lots of hand movements and he is more emotionally expressive than SLI.
    Last edited by myresearch; 02-03-2019 at 09:29 PM. Reason: isn't similar to people who have 4D Ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I don't think his communication style is similar to people who have 4D Ti. His sentences aren't logically constructed in 4D Ti fashion. He is able to stay energetic for 40 minutes, he talks non-stop energetically, I think XSE is able to do so. He use lots of hand movements and he is more emotionally expressive than SLI.
    This is true. I generally think putting on this persona is possible for any types, but maybe Fe Role does this more.
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    This is true. I generally think putting on this persona is possible for any types, but maybe Fe Role does this more.
    Yes. Also I meant to say his communication style isn't similar to people who have 4D-Ti, sorry for the typo.

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    Maiken Nedergaard - LSE? @Sol
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Maiken Nedergaard - LSE?
    in that clip she is dressed a little sloppy for my taste. it's not what LSE would do for an official meeting. mb some N or P
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    Yulia Debolskaya (Dankilove) - INFJ
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Yulia Debolskaya (Dankilove) - INFJ
    Russian girls are hot.

    You guys always look so healthy, like in your faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Russian girls are hot.
    pretty girls are anywhere also many bloggers do good makeup without which they look lesser impressive

    IR may affect on the perception too. in my signature you may find other EIIs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    pretty girls are anywhere also many bloggers do good makeup without which they look lesser impressive

    IR may affect on the perception too. in my signature you may find other EIIs
    North Americans looked burnt out compared to Russians. Its in the faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    North Americans looked burnt out compared to Russians. Its in the faces.
    It would be correctly to compare USA and Russian bloggers women. If there was a comparision of common women on streets with bloggers. Bloggers try to look good, including having good appearance and a mood. They prepare alike common people may do to big and rare celebrations with many people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    It would be correctly to compare USA and Russian bloggers women. If there was a comparision of common women on streets with bloggers. Bloggers try to look good, including having good appearance and a mood. They prepare alike common people may do to big and rare celebrations with many people.
    This is going off other videos, not just bloggers. Its not about the actual physical looks, its more like agedness. People here age faster in looks. Russians look more balanced. Their faces look less tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    This is going off other videos, not just bloggers. Its not about the actual physical looks, its more like agedness. People here age faster in looks. Russians look more balanced. Their faces look less tired.
    I work with a few Russians, recently from Russia, and I get the impression that they are kind of shocked that jobs in the States are fairly precarious.

    The constant, underlying stress of this fact on people living in the States might take a toll.

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    I think they also just have higher/wider cheekbones due to genetics so they naturally look more like that. Americans are of course more artificial and removed from their own humanity (generally speaking / in their regular habitats anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I think they also just have higher/wider cheekbones due to genetics so they naturally look more like that. Americans are of course more artificial and removed from their own humanity (generally speaking / in their regular habitats anyway).
    yeah the wide set eyes are a part of it. Also, they just look more balanced, less lost at a spiritual level, not saying religious. North Americans are removed from their own humanity, like cultural sanctioned neuroticisms.

    Its hard to explain. People from Russia just look better in a balanced kind of way. Like good looking people, handsome, in more than just their face structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    yeah the wide set eyes are a part of it. Also, they just look more balanced, less lost at a spiritual level, not saying religious. North Americans are removed from their own humanity, like cultural sanctioned neuroticisms.

    Its hard to explain. People from Russia just look better in a balanced kind of way. Like good looking people, handsome, in more than just their face structure.
    I think I kinda know what you mean. It's like, they're still real humans, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I think I kinda know what you mean. It's like, they're still real humans, lol.
    Yeah like they sleep at night and are just more relaxed with being people. Like yeah we cheat at the Olimpics, so what, all the best ones cheat, thats what makes them the best.

    And everyone is just alright with it. I dont know what Im saying. Like you say, they still know how to be humans. I get accused if generalizing to much. I know Im right on this. Europeans are the same way. Like, you get a 25 y’o Belgium girl, she looks 16, yet also at the same time looks more sophisticated then a 25 y’o Canadian.

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    The TV series Forged in Fire is almost exclusively SLI. Most competitors, who forge blades and knives, are SLI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I work with a few Russians, recently from Russia, and I get the impression that they are kind of shocked that jobs in the States are fairly precarious.

    The constant, underlying stress of this fact on people living in the States might take a toll.
    That could be part of it. This constant under current of worry.

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