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    Everyone seems to be in Beta to me except sylar (who is from the Ne-Si quadra). But that's probably just the overwhelming betaness of the program getting to me.
    You're serious? You think it's beta-ish? How so?
    It's a epic show down between good and evil. It's about honour and justice, doing you part in a large scale high stakes game while the future of humanity rests on it. All the characters start off weak (and pathetic) and slowly as time goes by learn skills that turn them into 'true' heroes (something I've witnessed with Se quadra types). Also the feeling of being small in the grand view things; like the characters are all unsuspecting pawns in something they can't really understand. The general feeling of epicness.

    Or Se-Ni; beta style.

    The complicated intriging plot seems to point to some Ni dominate writing it.

    There doesn't seem to be much Gamma playful ruff SeFi moments at all. It just seems all very beta (proud warrior moments).

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    This one seems more evenly divided among quadras than most shows, in terms of characters, plot, and overall idea/feel.
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    I wish I had started watching this show when it came out. I havn't even seen one episode, but so many people tell me its great.

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    so download it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    so download it
    I was downloading stuffs all nice like, and now it just doesn't want to play anything I downloaded. I started getting fed up, maybe it's time to try to figure it out again...
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    Actually, I really agree that this show is incredibly Beta in premise. Agreed with all that was said at the first post on the top of this page... I fail to see how it's evenly represented by quadra.

    Nearly all the hardcore "this show is so awesome!" fans I know are Beta


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux
    Actually, I really agree that this show is incredibly Beta in premise. Agreed with all that was said at the first post on the top of this page... I fail to see how it's evenly represented by quadra.

    Nearly all the hardcore "this show is so awesome!" fans I know are Beta
    That's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
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    so download it
    I was downloading stuffs all nice like, and now it just doesn't want to play anything I downloaded. I started getting fed up, maybe it's time to try to figure it out again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
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    so download it
    I was downloading stuffs all nice like, and now it just doesn't want to play anything I downloaded. I started getting fed up, maybe it's time to try to figure it out again...
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    (i was going to make the same post... but damn! you made it first.)

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    Heroes is a great show... I wouldn't call myself a "hard core fan", but I'm disappointed that we're all caught up now. I'll have to wait a week between episodes instead of watching two every night.
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    I'm inclined to take the tact of Joy here (oddly seems like I've been doing that pretty often lately) and say that there is something here for everybody. Every quadra could probably find something endearing about this show that speaks to them. As to the beta nature of it, I think that's a perfectly valid interpretation, from the perspective of those who are making it. Just as I think that others could argue for other influences. I've personally thought there was a strong delta feel to the way of things, but again I only view things from the vantage point of what it that I value. That struggle between good and evil takes on a different character for me, in the sense that it's a struggle between people, but also in the case of many characters a struggle within their own selves. The focus on doing what's right, on making sacrifices to make sure that happens, the closeness and distance between them all, the wild imaginings of what things could or might be or should. These things that have always rang as Delta to me.

    As for this last episode, omg. Damn you, WGA strikers! Why must we wait? Though I'm glad to see Peter is only a half tard. I was really starting to lose him there (and honestly I don't know why he didn't make sure less lives were lost, it was certainly within his power to do so).
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    Quote Originally Posted by normal
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
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    so download it
    I was downloading stuffs all nice like, and now it just doesn't want to play anything I downloaded. I started getting fed up, maybe it's time to try to figure it out again...
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
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    (i was going to make the same post... but damn! you made it first.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    so download it
    I was downloading stuffs all nice like, and now it just doesn't want to play anything I downloaded. I started getting fed up, maybe it's time to try to figure it out again...
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    (i was going to make the same post... but damn! you made it first.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Mohinder has gotten excessively annoying the last two episodes. Peter too. And both of them in the same way - by trusting the wrong people and being too dense to realize it. Maya -- is just naiive in a different way - same end result though. Sooo stupid not to listen to Alejandro.
    Mohinder has always just been chronically stupid.

    Remember when he tried to take on Sylar by himself? I still rather like him, but he somehow always manages to get caught up in his idealism and not think anything through.

    That alone makes him highly > , IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    IEI makes sense for Linderman.
    How??
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    Hmmm I thought that may be an explanation for his temperament + values (the way he does things, looks at the world, etc... now do I need to put a disclaimer here that says that I don't think IEI's or Betas in general are "evil"?). He could be IJ though, I suppose. What type do you think he is?
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    The main reason other than the obvious Ni-Se feel for it (it's a bit like lord of the rings) is that I believe a lot of the characters are in beta.

    And just because it has a strong Ni-Se feel to it, it doesn't mean it won't apply to all or some quadras. It just means it has a beta feel to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Hmmm I thought that may be an explanation for his temperament + values (the way he does things, looks at the world, etc... now do I need to put a disclaimer here that says that I don't think IEI's or Betas in general are "evil"?). He could be IJ though, I suppose. What type do you think he is?
    Didn't really get a good feel for his type, since he was only a character briefly, despite a lot of buildup. I got a "rational" thinker vibe, although Malcolm McDowell tends to channel that kind of evil genius aura through most of his characters anyway, so it's difficult to tell. Perhaps INTj. He was pretty methodical, unrelenting and unsentimental.

    Perhaps I'd be willing to grant INFj if you can provide me with some evidence of ethical function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Heroes is a great show... I wouldn't call myself a "hard core fan", but I'm disappointed that we're all caught up now. I'll have to wait a week between episodes instead of watching two every night.



    zomg im caught up too now. i dont know if ill be able to stand the once a week thing >_< and not to mention the by-weeks(not sure how thats spelled, to lazy to find out) X_X
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    I'm a lot like Peter.

    Though to me he's a bit of a pussy. I guess I am too. But... I'm glad they got rid of the Emo Bangs and he looks like a Falcon porn star model now.

    Peter is the ultimate bottom. He can absorb powers from everything.

    I'm not like Peter in the sense that I don't really give a shit about other people as much as him. Honestly, I wouldn't want to be just taking care of dying old people all my life. I understand it's a very 'human' thing to do, but given how crabby and unappreciative most old farts are (and it would probably not be like the idealistic things you see on TV) I'll pass. They can lick up their own bed pans. Not to mention I'd have to hear most of them rant how life was much better before there were any blacks or gays. Hee!

    I could never be a nurse (isn't that his official job?).

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    Bump. Are there any additional thoughts on the types of the characters?
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    Oh, awesome. I love this show! lol @ the completely different typings presented by everyone. But really - why do people think Peter is INFj? Ne? Really? He seems so INFp to me. Nathan is some Se type and I could see Angela Petrelli as ISFj.
    ISTp makes sense for Parkman and INTj makes sense for Sylar.
    I also don't think Mohinder is rational. I mean... randomly injecting himself with a power seconds before he was going to throw the vile into the water? Killing people? And he's always switching sides, blah. I think he's ENTp or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    But really - why do people think Peter is INFj? Ne? Really? He seems so INFp to me.
    I think that people are seeing some form of intuition but with Se-devaluing. Based upon what others have witnessed in interviews, the actor playing Peter is most likely an LII, which probably contributes to the appearance of an XII type. As he is portrayed as being "more ethical than his brother" and "good with people," I think that steers people more towards typing him as EII.

    I also don't think Mohinder is rational. I mean... randomly injecting himself with a power seconds before he was going to throw the vile into the water? Killing people? And he's always switching sides, blah. I think he's ENTp or something.
    Your feelings towards him and what you listed hardly makes for a good case for an ILE. Based upon what little I have seen thus far, ILE does not really seem like too good of a fit.

    I just started watching, so it may be a while before I present my own views on their types, but I posted this in the hopes of getting more input and see if any views have shifted since this thread.
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    i agree Peter is a INFP

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    Hiro - IEI
    Peter Petrelli - IEI-Ni-Subtype
    Nathan Petrelli - LSE, his mother - SLE
    Claire - SEI
    Noah Bennet - LIE, his wife - ESI
    Sylar - ILE
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    I can't really see Hiro as IEI, though I do like it for Peter quite a lot. I prefer the alpha NT for Hiro. He seems super!Alpha in any rate. I also don't really like ILE for Sylar. I can sort of see it if I squint, but it doesn't really seem right. The rest I can pretty much agree with, or at least can't say I disagree with outright.

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    Why can't you agree with Sylar as ILE?
    He just knows how things work, he wants to have all abilities. He likes everything new.
    In solving problems he always attempts to see the connection between the specific problem and the general situation.
    He usually interprets his relations badly. He's afraid to be alone and thinks, he is a monster.
    Why not ILE?

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    Hiro NT?? Logics is not the stronges function... Have you seen how he cares about Charlie?? Typical as creative function..

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    Monica Dawson - LSE
    Micah Sanders - ILI
    Barbara - SLE Se-subtype
    Daphne - ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxOnStilts View Post
    I can't really see Hiro as IEI, though I do like it for Peter quite a lot. I prefer the alpha NT for Hiro. He seems super!Alpha in any rate. I also don't really like ILE for Sylar. I can sort of see it if I squint, but it doesn't really seem right. The rest I can pretty much agree with, or at least can't say I disagree with outright.
    I think Sylar is ILE, but he's one with a derangement. Outside of his derangement, he fits. I really didn't like the show tho, narratively after the first season, it was off.

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    Hiro does sux at the logic from what I could tell. Have to make the character that way or else he's too powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Hiro does sux at the logic from what I could tell. Have to make the character that way or else he's too powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Hiro does sux at the logic from what I could tell. Have to make the character that way or else he's too powerful.
    Maybe. But still not IEI. I don't see any Ni outside of his power being time-related (trololol) and he seems super alpha. Even then, I'd pick delta > beta.

    After thinking I can see Sylar as ILE better. Well, thinking back at how he was when he wasn't crazy, at least. And a bit of the later seasons that I managed to watch. Puts a whole new perspective on my shipping of Sylar and Claire though...

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    I don't have an opinion on his type, but I think ExIs get undertyped because their stereotypes are rare. Would make more sense to say half are EII half are IEI and define the right difference between Fi and Fe instead of just assuming Fi is only one way, when it makes no sense in reality where we have more of a diverse group of personalities than in a theory.

    Course I'm just talking about fundamental Socionics going around, not necessarily what the more expert people on here think. It seems to reflect on a lot of typings, esp. overtyping people as Beta due to a variety of detached traits.

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    I think you might be right. Maybe is Hero SEI? Still creative function, do u agree?

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    The first season of this show was amazing...after that, I couldn't bring myself to finish it. I wish someone would tell me what happens

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    Agree.. You have to download and finish watching it. There are some logical mistakes though...

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