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    Dream - EIE. Near the end, Merv and others note how self-absorbed he is, even blanketing his entire domain in rain because he scared off some girl he was pouring Fe into. Said girl described being caught up in Dream's emotions, like being the Moon reflecting the Sun's light.

    Delerium - IEE. Delight at first, happy flower girl. Slowly becomes completely scattered and loopy. Do I even need to justify this one? (Joke typing, but what the hell. Do you have anything better?)

    Destruction - ? Judicious, weak Si. This is one of the most interesting characters, imo. Quite possibly IEE, because the Fi-ego/Ti-PoLR is played up in this character. He resents his duty as the controlling force behind creation and destruction (well, actually, just the destruction side--he's always seen doing creative things), and flees from it. I believe the pivotal point to this resentment is related to "why do people have to kill eachother?" Is this suitably Fi?

    Desire - Not really seen enough. Completely chaotic and rather rapacious. I'm hesitant to say SEE, seeing as how I was just preaching to someone about stereotypes

    Despair - IEI? Her speech at the end comes to mind. Seems to be very self-absorbed, and more connected to her inner world. Additionally, is shown to feel sympathy for the people she overlooks (in other words, the despairing).

    Death - ? I'm actually short of ideas for her.

    Destiny - LII? Very, very strict adherence to The Rules, even though he's quite obviously closely related to time. Being that he's also a passive observer with only occasional communication roles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Dream - EIE. Near the end, Merv and others note how self-absorbed he is, even blanketing his entire domain in rain because he scared off some girl he was pouring Fe into. Said girl described being caught up in Dream's emotions, like being the Moon reflecting the Sun's light.

    Delerium - IEE. Delight at first, happy flower girl. Slowly becomes completely scattered and loopy. Do I even need to justify this one? (Joke typing, but what the hell. Do you have anything better?)

    Destruction - ? Judicious, weak Si. This is one of the most interesting characters, imo. Quite possibly IEE, because the Fi-ego/Ti-PoLR is played up in this character. He resents his duty as the controlling force behind creation and destruction (well, actually, just the destruction side--he's always seen doing creative things), and flees from it. I believe the pivotal point to this resentment is related to "why do people have to kill eachother?" Is this suitably Fi?

    Desire - Not really seen enough. Completely chaotic and rather rapacious. I'm hesitant to say SEE, seeing as how I was just preaching to someone about stereotypes

    Despair - IEI? Her speech at the end comes to mind. Seems to be very self-absorbed, and more connected to her inner world. Additionally, is shown to feel sympathy for the people she overlooks (in other words, the despairing).

    Death - ? I'm actually short of ideas for her.

    Destiny - LII? Very, very strict adherence to The Rules, even though he's quite obviously closely related to time. Being that he's also a passive observer with only occasional communication roles...

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    And this

    Interesting.

    You must know the man I'm named after too?

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    But anyway. IMO Dream is INTj.

    Delirium as ENFp fits.

    I'd put Destruction as ENTp.

    I don't think Desire is completely chaotic. And I'd put hir down as ENTj myself. Hir role is to be desired, the object of desire, not to desire hirself. Anyway, s/he's clear gamma at least.

    Despair. I think INTp. She's close to Desire. She also rather causes despair than is despaired.

    Death is IMo easy INFj.

    Destiny is rather ISTj or ESTj. He adheres to the rules rather than creating them and pondering on them. Temperamentally ESTj fits better.

    Mostly quite close to your typings. Nice.
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    The letters, the pillars, the leather, the place, or the mode of behavior?

    Hmm, yeah, Destiny as ESTj is interesting to me. The fact that he's obviously closely related to time could be slightly obfuscating. That he's an impartial enforcer, however...

    Guess I'm re-reading the comics Glad I didn't delete them.

    I'd also like to discuss Death as INFj. Naturally, as all Endless have the dual roles, having a motherly side is needed for her. Would you say the bit where she -spoilers- at the end is a Fi-based decision? I'm also curious as to where Ne-creative comes from, as no outstanding instances come to mind for me...

    For the rest of them...

    Dream's relationship with that witch goes against INTj, doesn't it? His entire personality seems far too romantic with far too little structure for INTj. And his earlier quest after he breaks out = EJ (imo).

    Destruction, actually, you've convinced me. Fe > Te agenda.

    Despair, I think back to that episode, where we see her looking at the guy caught with a garage-ful of child pornography. Maybe it's just my being Fe-base, but that seemed rather a bit too melancholy... I mean, from Despair's side as well.

    And that's it! I'm really not too clear on Desire. I find her quite confusing as a character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon
    The letters, the pillars, the leather, the place, or the mode of behavior?
    And the tools, the profession, the duty, the clothing, the nourishment and the sociability. But most of all, "through a mirror, darkly".

    Hmm, yeah, Destiny as ESTj is interesting to me. The fact that he's obviously closely related to time could be slightly obfuscating. That he's an impartial enforcer, however...
    The link to time. You're right. ISTj would fit better, as one guided by external time (the book) instead of one ignoring it (ESTj).

    I'd also like to discuss Death as INFj. Naturally, as all Endless have the dual roles, having a motherly side is needed for her. Would you say the bit where she -spoilers- at the end is a Fi-based decision? I'm also curious as to where Ne-creative comes from, as no outstanding instances come to mind for me...
    Mostly it's an intuitive typing. INFjs give me the same feeling she does. But she has a strong sense of humanity, generally "proper" behaviour. She acts according to certain rules and she's never wanton. She's mostly kind even to people who try to harm her (the Death series). As for clear Ne... She has a habit of "saying the right thing" to people, and that could be seen as Ne.

    Dream's relationship with that witch goes against INTj, doesn't it? His entire personality seems far too romantic with far too little structure for INTj. And his earlier quest after he breaks out = EJ (imo).
    But the relationship was a disaster. IMO Thessaly is ESTp and her supervising Dream works quite fine. ALso, Dream only takes up quests when someone else comes to him and pushes him to do it. I don't really remember a single event in which he shows being overtaken by feeling. IMO he's as cold as can be. Also, it works nicely with the friendship with Death INFj and the animosity with Desire ENTj. ALso, if Delirium is ENFp, ENFj should not be able to work with her. INTj-Ne on the other hand? Sure.

    Despair, I think back to that episode, where we see her looking at the guy caught with a garage-ful of child pornography. Maybe it's just my being Fe-base, but that seemed rather a bit too melancholy... I mean, from Despair's side as well.
    Too melancholy for INTp? I'm not sure there's such a thing. But I'm not particularly disagreeable to INFp-Ni. Could fit the theme of loss better even.

    IMO Desire acts as an impartial observer who likes to annoy people and try to get people to act aggressively. Whatever he-she is it also can't work with Dream but is great friends with despair, so Despair and Dream both being beta has problems. Oh... If I remember correctly, Despair used to really love Destruction... so that too would make her being INFp more likely than her being INTp.

    Anyway. It's a comic book, so things are difficult.

    Also, my namesake is ESTj.
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