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    Quote Originally Posted by KSpin
    I cannot like Braveheart... it's because it's so anti-English.
    It's also largely historical nonsense -- for instance, Wallace was a lowlander, not a highlander.

    Still, as a movie, it's Gamma.
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    A rather flawed romantic comedy that flopped, but its themes are definitely Gamma.
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    The Rocky Horror Picture Show



    A fine, upstanding Serious Gamma couple, Brad and Janet (INTp and ESFp respectively) are sucked into Alpha/Beta hedonism and depravity.

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    Which are versions of the same book, Richard Matheson's I am Legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat


    A rather flawed romantic comedy that flopped, but its themes are definitely Gamma.
    I used to love that movie. I've seen it at least half a dozen times.

    <3 Meg Ryan

    Sometimes her characters are annoying or boring, but I really liked her character in that movie. I liked her a lot in French Kiss as well.



    (I don't know if it's a Gamma movie or not. I haven't seen it in years. It does portray Fi vs. Fe issues though. Again, the story is about how her boyfriend leaves her and hooks up with a Fe woman.)
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    I hate Meg Ryan and hope she dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I hate Meg Ryan and hope she dies.

    yeah ever since she had that weird plastic surgery to her lips....*shivers*....she looks weird. shoulda left well enough alone.

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    I'm going to rent Addicted to Love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I'm going to rent Addicted to Love.
    I'm going to watch Sealab.

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    I'm sure you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I'm going to rent Addicted to Love.
    I'm sure you will.

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    I can never watch a film more than once in close succession unless I absolutely love it. Like Serenity or Firefly. My sister on the other hand... geez...
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    Wayne's World



    Music, characters, and probably actors too - all Gamma.

    Wayne: ENTj
    Garth: INTp
    Cassandra: ISFj
    Benjamin: ENFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Blow, Scarface, The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction (maybe Beta?), Gladiator, Forrest Gump
    Shawshank, Gladiator and Pulp Fiction are modern classics. Blow was surprisingly good, but is like a reworking of the superior Goodfellas.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    The Graduate
    The Matrix (maybe Delta)
    Sideways
    Harold and Maude
    21 Grams
    Akira
    The Insider
    Identity
    Lolita
    Rabbit-Proof Fence
    War of the Worlds
    Are also all either good, fantastic or classic (but I haven't seen Lolita, Rabbit-Proof Fence or The Graduate sadly).

    Which quadra(s) would you put the Vietnam War movies in to? Primarily I'm talking Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket.

    And also how about City of God, The Big Sleep, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Fight Club, Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler and L.A. Confidential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    (but I haven't seen Lolita, Rabbit-Proof Fence or The Graduate sadly).
    They are ok, bad, and good, respectively.

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    lol @ spousal bickering.

    Sealab > any romantic comedy ever. Watch Stimutacs for me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Just watched it on DVD recently.

    Is Les Misérables Gamma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Is Les Misérables Gamma?
    I never read the novel; from what I know of film versionsm, yes, I think so.
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    The Lion King (SEE protagonist, LII villain)
    The Brave Little Toaster (Gamma music too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    The Lion King (SEE protagonist, LII villain)
    Simba and Scar?

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    What quadra do you think L. A. Confidential fits into? What do you think the main characters' types are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    Simba and Scar?
    Yep. Most of the characters have remarkably consistent personalities. Simba is rebellious, makes rash decisions, and doesn't like to have anything tie him down, to be obligated to anyone or anything. Scar on the other hand finds it easy to bide his time, sowing the seeds of dissent more through ideology ("a world where hyenas and lions work and live side by side") than personal characteristics. Mufasa criticizes him for being ineffectual/lazy, if I remember correctly.

    The whole point of the movie seems to be that a life of ease in the jungle is nice, but that it reflects immaturity and what's really important is to defend the people close to you when they need your help most of all.

    As for the rest:

    Mufasa: LSI (perhaps ESI?)
    Scar: LII
    Zazu: LIE
    Timon: ILE
    Pumbaa: SEI
    Rafiki: probably irrational - IEI?
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    Apocalypse Now, The Factory, maybe 3:10 to Yuma delta/gamma ... I think. Also "The Village" is ILI I think

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    anyone see 21, yet?
    seems to really downplay Fe, and strongly favors the loyalty between people over loyalty to a group. the betrayal plotline seems to be related to misplaced Fi on behalf of the victims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isolda Biloruka View Post
    anyone see 21, yet?
    seems to really downplay Fe, and strongly favors the loyalty between people over loyalty to a group. the betrayal plotline seems to be related to misplaced Fi on behalf of the victims
    Yes, I would definitely say that 21 was a Gamma movie. The loyalty/betrayal theme that runs throughout the movie is seems indicative of Fi. Also, the background representation of the academic world, along with the card-counting scheme in general is rather suggestive of Te. I didn't see much Ni in itself, yet the main character's struggle at the end to overcome his lust for the thrill of Vegas and money-making seemed very Se.

    Some other Gamma movies:
    - Dr. Strangelove (yes, another Gamma comedy, rare as they might be)
    - Eyes Wide Shut
    - A Clockwork Orange
    - Munich
    - Monty Python's the Meaning of Life (yet not the other Monty Python movies)
    - Brazil (maybe)
    - The Shining
    - Time Bandits (maybe Beta. quite Ni)
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    Bicentennial Man
    Code 46
    Contact
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    Primer
    Strange Days
    The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
    Screamers
    Tank Girl

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    What Tv Show do you Guys and Gals get a Gamma Vibe from.

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    Could be bullshit, but I was talking to this guy who was saying that in his opinion, lots of American TV shows are Gamma. Take for instance comedies, like Family Guy, Friends, Simpsons even.

    Basically, much of the stories evolve round someone doing something "morally" wrong or frowned upon, but doesn't see anything wrong with it, then s/he's gets told off by his friends, family; is punished, s/he goes away, and is sort of on ignore by everyone for a while, s/he suffers for a while and is forced to see the "error of their ways", then coming up to the end s/he realises the error of their ways, apologises and makes up, and everyone is OK again. (and the cycle repeats)

    At the same time everyones got good jobs, no one really worries about money (even the ones who are supposedly skint), I mean, how can Homer Simpson have such a crap job yet has a detached, two cars, family, can afford to go out drinking and eating all the time, never makes sense. Or Joey the struggling actor who's always got money for coffee and pizzas and nice clothes.

    Dunno, could be said to be Delta, it's certainly some sort of Fi focus, but strikes me more Gamma for some reason.

    Delta I think would be moral, but less morally punishing, and more sitting about doing sweet F with the reality of crap jobs and what goes with it, if they had them, and some more Ne related "zanyness". Going on some camping trip that get's f-d up or something, heh.

    Although maybe I should just say it's Fi. Haven't put a great deal of thought into it, sorry!

    Alpha comedies could be said to be more British, monty python and stuff, it does what it says on the tin, what it's supposed to do? It's just funny without any condescending life lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Could be bullshit, but I was talking to this guy who was saying that in his opinion, lots of American TV shows are Gamma. Take for instance comedies, like Family Guy, Friends, Simpsons even.

    Basically, much of the stories evolve round someone doing something "morally" wrong or frowned upon, but doesn't see anything wrong with it, then s/he's gets told off by his friends, family; is punished, s/he goes away, and is sort of on ignore by everyone for a while, s/he suffers for a while and is forced to see the "error of their ways", then coming up to the end s/he realises the error of their ways, apologises and makes up, and everyone is OK again. (and the cycle repeats)

    At the same time everyones got good jobs, no one really worries about money (even the ones who are supposedly skint), I mean, how can Homer Simpson have such a crap job yet has a detached, two cars, family, can afford to go out drinking and eating all the time, never makes sense. Or Joey the struggling actor who's always got money for coffee and pizzas and nice clothes.

    Dunno, could be said to be Delta, it's certainly some sort of Fi focus, but strikes me more Gamma for some reason.

    Delta I think would be moral, but less morally punishing, and more sitting about doing sweet F with the reality of crap jobs and what goes with it, if they had them, and some more Ne related "zanyness". Going on some camping trip that get's f-d up or something, heh.

    Although maybe I should just say it's Fi. Haven't put a great deal of thought into it, sorry!

    Alpha comedies could be said to be more British, monty python and stuff, it does what it says on the tin, what it's supposed to do? It's just funny without any condescending life lessons.
    * Family Guy: Alpha/Delta
    * Friends: Beta (this is just a guess based on where the character types seems to fall).
    * Simpsons: Delta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    * Family Guy: Alpha/Delta
    * Friends: Beta (this is just a guess based on where the character types seems to fall).
    * Simpsons: Delta
    Disagree, on the terms of what I wrote, that the overall emphasis of the story is a form of moral enforcement.

    But, i'm not going to press the issue, i'll take it you could be right.

    It would be great though if you could write at least a small expose on why you think so (i'm not talking about the individual theoretical characters, i'm talking about what is being put accross as the overarching message of the script/storylines).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    * Family Guy: Alpha/Delta
    * Simpsons: Delta
    Also in both shows villianous people are Gamma stereotypes.
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    Hi there,

    I used to be sure I was IEE so I watched Shrek(LSI) for Donkey(IEE).
    But now people type me as a SEE, so I want to know if there are movies with a SEE main character, or with a Gamma quadra crew.

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    Shrek is (unfortunately) Si-ESTj 8w9 sp/so.
    Donkey is Ne-ENTp 7w6 sx/sp.

    Also, this might interest you: http://forum.socionix.com/topic/1020-gamma-movies/

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    Garden full of flies is a good gamma film.

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    Rocky is as SEE as it gets
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    Calamari Union.
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    Calamari Union is an allegorical movie that tells the story of sixteen men all of whom are called Frank apart from a single confrere, Pekka. Collectively the Franks and Pekka are unhappy with the perceived oppression they face in their district of Helsinki, Kallio, and decide to move to another, Eira, imagining it to be an unspoiled place where people can live lives of dignity. The journey is an ironic one given that both districts are not so far apart and much like each other. In this spirit, their journey across the city takes on epic proportions with each of the travellers gradually falling by the wayside due to such travails as marriage, work, and death. In its entirety the film is a wry discussion of humanity within a system that regards humans as subservient components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Blow, Scarface, The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction (maybe Beta?), Gladiator, Forrest Gump
    This is actually very on the spot for me (though quality of movie depends if its something I would like and relate to or not, as well.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Themes: money, family, isolation, personal acheivment, relationships between two individuals, revenge
    Yes, all of these things. Relationships, family, revenge, struggle, personal achievement, a touching mix of misfortune and fortune, and a sense of internal passion and willpower. A movie that sticks out is The Count of Monte Cristo, even though I can probably think of something better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie84 View Post
    Bumping this to add

    Traffic
    Léon
    Se7en
    Amadeus
    Memento
    I have not seen Traffic, Leon, or Se7en, but I liked Amadeus quite a lot, and don't have the judgment to call it Gamma. Memento on the other hand is one of the coolest movies I have seen and the way they made it was great, and I agree that it mainly has a Gamma feel.

    But overall I think I will say that movies and movie themes that are liked are personal, and associations don't necessarily mean something to me, unless I can relate to liking it. In this sense, I see many movies that have more than one applicable type feel to it, which is what makes movies and art so great.

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    Default Peep Show (tv show-ILI-SEE duality)

    Has anyone seen this british tv show? There's 5 seasons, each with 6 20 minute episodes. It's hilarious I strongly recommend it. Anyways I think the main character is ILI and his roommate is SEE. I think you Gammas would enjoy it, it's at ninjavideo.net
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    i really wanna watch it but that site doesn't work. any other sites you could recommend? is the red head the one you think is ili?
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