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    Wayne's World



    Music, characters, and probably actors too - all Gamma.

    Wayne: ENTj
    Garth: INTp
    Cassandra: ISFj
    Benjamin: ENFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Blow, Scarface, The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction (maybe Beta?), Gladiator, Forrest Gump
    Shawshank, Gladiator and Pulp Fiction are modern classics. Blow was surprisingly good, but is like a reworking of the superior Goodfellas.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    The Graduate
    The Matrix (maybe Delta)
    Sideways
    Harold and Maude
    21 Grams
    Akira
    The Insider
    Identity
    Lolita
    Rabbit-Proof Fence
    War of the Worlds
    Are also all either good, fantastic or classic (but I haven't seen Lolita, Rabbit-Proof Fence or The Graduate sadly).

    Which quadra(s) would you put the Vietnam War movies in to? Primarily I'm talking Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket.

    And also how about City of God, The Big Sleep, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Fight Club, Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler and L.A. Confidential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    (but I haven't seen Lolita, Rabbit-Proof Fence or The Graduate sadly).
    They are ok, bad, and good, respectively.

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    lol @ spousal bickering.

    Sealab > any romantic comedy ever. Watch Stimutacs for me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Just watched it on DVD recently.

    Is Les Misérables Gamma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Is Les Misérables Gamma?
    I never read the novel; from what I know of film versionsm, yes, I think so.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    The Lion King (SEE protagonist, LII villain)
    The Brave Little Toaster (Gamma music too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    The Lion King (SEE protagonist, LII villain)
    Simba and Scar?

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    What quadra do you think L. A. Confidential fits into? What do you think the main characters' types are?
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    Apocalypse Now, The Factory, maybe 3:10 to Yuma delta/gamma ... I think. Also "The Village" is ILI I think

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    anyone see 21, yet?
    seems to really downplay Fe, and strongly favors the loyalty between people over loyalty to a group. the betrayal plotline seems to be related to misplaced Fi on behalf of the victims
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    ¿Qué es la vida? Un frenesí.
    ¿Qué es la vida? Una ilusión;
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    y el mayor bien es pequeño.
    ¡Que toda la vida es sueño
    y los sueños, sueños son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isolda Biloruka View Post
    anyone see 21, yet?
    seems to really downplay Fe, and strongly favors the loyalty between people over loyalty to a group. the betrayal plotline seems to be related to misplaced Fi on behalf of the victims
    Yes, I would definitely say that 21 was a Gamma movie. The loyalty/betrayal theme that runs throughout the movie is seems indicative of Fi. Also, the background representation of the academic world, along with the card-counting scheme in general is rather suggestive of Te. I didn't see much Ni in itself, yet the main character's struggle at the end to overcome his lust for the thrill of Vegas and money-making seemed very Se.

    Some other Gamma movies:
    - Dr. Strangelove (yes, another Gamma comedy, rare as they might be)
    - Eyes Wide Shut
    - A Clockwork Orange
    - Munich
    - Monty Python's the Meaning of Life (yet not the other Monty Python movies)
    - Brazil (maybe)
    - The Shining
    - Time Bandits (maybe Beta. quite Ni)
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    Bicentennial Man
    Code 46
    Contact
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    Primer
    Strange Days
    The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
    Screamers
    Tank Girl

    Discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drd252 View Post
    Tank Girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I hate Meg Ryan and hope she dies.

    yeah ever since she had that weird plastic surgery to her lips....*shivers*....she looks weird. shoulda left well enough alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    Simba and Scar?
    Yep. Most of the characters have remarkably consistent personalities. Simba is rebellious, makes rash decisions, and doesn't like to have anything tie him down, to be obligated to anyone or anything. Scar on the other hand finds it easy to bide his time, sowing the seeds of dissent more through ideology ("a world where hyenas and lions work and live side by side") than personal characteristics. Mufasa criticizes him for being ineffectual/lazy, if I remember correctly.

    The whole point of the movie seems to be that a life of ease in the jungle is nice, but that it reflects immaturity and what's really important is to defend the people close to you when they need your help most of all.

    As for the rest:

    Mufasa: LSI (perhaps ESI?)
    Scar: LII
    Zazu: LIE
    Timon: ILE
    Pumbaa: SEI
    Rafiki: probably irrational - IEI?
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    *Dude where's my car?
    *Jay and Silent Bob
    *Any movie that resembles the last two movies
    *Sin City
    *P2
    *Fantastic 4
    *Cloverfield
    *The Kingdom

    Not a movie, but Last of the Summer Wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    that's interesting. is it possible to account for why scar was so malevolent and calculating without going outside the bounds of the INTj profile?

    was it consistent with an (Se) vulnerable function fixation as per rick's article?... or was it the result of some deeper psychic trouble that couldn't possibly affect normal INTjs?
    What does Se have to do with being malevolent and calculating? Part of his motivation was his dissatisfaction with always being in his brother's shadow, which could have something to do with vulnerable Se.

    do u ever picture yourself acting like that?
    Maybe if I had a hyena army...

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    Some random thoughts...

    Prison Break (1-it's not a movie 2-Scofield is an INTj and Burrows is an ESFj but the series strike me as gamma...money,family, destroying an enemy...)

    Cape Fear

    Robocop (yes!!, Robocop is an ISFj built by an ENTj mega-corporation taking revenge over bad guys in the name of his prime directives)

    Jurassic Park (a group of Alphas rejecting gamma ideas)

    Basic Instinct (agressor-victim relationship)

    Fatal Attraction (Michael Douglas always plays the role of victim)
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    Default Peep Show (tv show-ILI-SEE duality)

    Has anyone seen this british tv show? There's 5 seasons, each with 6 20 minute episodes. It's hilarious I strongly recommend it. Anyways I think the main character is ILI and his roommate is SEE. I think you Gammas would enjoy it, it's at ninjavideo.net
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    i really wanna watch it but that site doesn't work. any other sites you could recommend? is the red head the one you think is ili?
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    under the "comedy tv show" section of the forums at ipb.quicksilverscreen.com on like the second or third page there's a thread with a bunch of links... BUT the forum is down for maintenance at the moment. Bump this thread in a couple days and ill get you a direct link

    Anyways ninjavideo should work, so long as you have the proper divx plug-ins. Try this,

    1) Go to http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/4985

    2) In red text above where the video screen is you should see a message that says "

    Click here to launch the NinjaVideo Helper Beta 0.2.0


    You must click yes on the security dialog.


    The NinjaVideo Helper Beta 0.2.0 is required to view videos on NinjaVideo.net
    "

    3) Click the link and launch the ninjavideo helper application. You'll get a security message. Allow and unblock the site when asked. You need to keep the application open in order to watch anything.

    4) If this doesn't work report back here with what's not working and I'll figure it out and make it work (it works for me, though in the past I've had to troubleshoot). I have an eternal vendetta against technology and never accept defeat so may as well take advantage of this.

    btw the main character, he has dark hair, works in an office, gives funny, *slightly* cynical commentary, is introverted, he's the ILI. Damn I'm bad with names. Anyways his roomate, the extroverted guy that's always getting himself into trouble on purpose lol, he's SEE.

    Their constant bickering kinda reminds me of me and my SLE roomate but a bit different, haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii View Post
    under the "comedy tv show" section of the forums at ipb.quicksilverscreen.com on like the second or third page there's a thread with a bunch of links... BUT the forum is down for maintenance at the moment. Bump this thread in a couple days and ill get you a direct link

    Anyways ninjavideo should work, so long as you have the proper divx plug-ins. Try this,

    1) Go to http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/4985

    2) In red text above where the video screen is you should see a message that says "

    Click here to launch the NinjaVideo Helper Beta 0.2.0


    You must click yes on the security dialog.


    The NinjaVideo Helper Beta 0.2.0 is required to view videos on NinjaVideo.net
    "

    3) Click the link and launch the ninjavideo helper application. You'll get a security message. Allow and unblock the site when asked. You need to keep the application open in order to watch anything.

    4) If this doesn't work report back here with what's not working and I'll figure it out and make it work (it works for me, though in the past I've had to troubleshoot). I have an eternal vendetta against technology and never accept defeat so may as well take advantage of this.

    btw the main character, he has dark hair, works in an office, gives funny, *slightly* cynical commentary, is introverted, he's the ILI. Damn I'm bad with names. Anyways his roomate, the extroverted guy that's always getting himself into trouble on purpose lol, he's SEE.

    Their constant bickering kinda reminds me of me and my SLE roomate but a bit different, haha
    cool! i also saw it here:
    http://www.pokergently.com/?p=79

    it's pretty funny so far thanks for the recommendation!
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    I just watched only a clip of it. And based on that I think it's more of a ESTp - INTp pair.

    Who ever is the writer of that show, is most likely Se-dominant.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    I think ILI-SEE is possible even though I haven't seen much Fi/Te interaction. Mark (the supposedly ILI guy) actually looks like an ENTj. The actor I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    I think ILI-SEE is possible even though I haven't seen much Fi/Te interaction. Mark (the supposedly ILI guy) actually looks like an ENTj. The actor I mean.
    Good example of Fi/Te interaction comes in the funeral episode, forget if it's in season one or two maybe the end of season one
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    He's def INTp, not sure on her
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    I have seen many of the peep show episodes. I find it increadibly stressful to watch. The characters always make the worst possible decisions and create these increadibly awkward situations.

    Mark is LIE, and his girl Sophie is ESE. Fun little super-ego relation. I love Mark's Te.

    I am guessing Jeremy is SLI because he is always getting his way with Mark and doing increadibly irresponsible things.
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Alvin and the chipmunks.

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    Man on Fire and Michael Clayton (both starring gammas, Denzel Washington and George Clooney).
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Man on Fire and Michael Clayton (both starring gammas, Denzel Washington and George Clooney).

    i second this
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    Inside Man
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Wall Street
    Friday the 13th movies.
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    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    What Tv Show do you Guys and Gals get a Gamma Vibe from.

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    Could be bullshit, but I was talking to this guy who was saying that in his opinion, lots of American TV shows are Gamma. Take for instance comedies, like Family Guy, Friends, Simpsons even.

    Basically, much of the stories evolve round someone doing something "morally" wrong or frowned upon, but doesn't see anything wrong with it, then s/he's gets told off by his friends, family; is punished, s/he goes away, and is sort of on ignore by everyone for a while, s/he suffers for a while and is forced to see the "error of their ways", then coming up to the end s/he realises the error of their ways, apologises and makes up, and everyone is OK again. (and the cycle repeats)

    At the same time everyones got good jobs, no one really worries about money (even the ones who are supposedly skint), I mean, how can Homer Simpson have such a crap job yet has a detached, two cars, family, can afford to go out drinking and eating all the time, never makes sense. Or Joey the struggling actor who's always got money for coffee and pizzas and nice clothes.

    Dunno, could be said to be Delta, it's certainly some sort of Fi focus, but strikes me more Gamma for some reason.

    Delta I think would be moral, but less morally punishing, and more sitting about doing sweet F with the reality of crap jobs and what goes with it, if they had them, and some more Ne related "zanyness". Going on some camping trip that get's f-d up or something, heh.

    Although maybe I should just say it's Fi. Haven't put a great deal of thought into it, sorry!

    Alpha comedies could be said to be more British, monty python and stuff, it does what it says on the tin, what it's supposed to do? It's just funny without any condescending life lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Could be bullshit, but I was talking to this guy who was saying that in his opinion, lots of American TV shows are Gamma. Take for instance comedies, like Family Guy, Friends, Simpsons even.

    Basically, much of the stories evolve round someone doing something "morally" wrong or frowned upon, but doesn't see anything wrong with it, then s/he's gets told off by his friends, family; is punished, s/he goes away, and is sort of on ignore by everyone for a while, s/he suffers for a while and is forced to see the "error of their ways", then coming up to the end s/he realises the error of their ways, apologises and makes up, and everyone is OK again. (and the cycle repeats)

    At the same time everyones got good jobs, no one really worries about money (even the ones who are supposedly skint), I mean, how can Homer Simpson have such a crap job yet has a detached, two cars, family, can afford to go out drinking and eating all the time, never makes sense. Or Joey the struggling actor who's always got money for coffee and pizzas and nice clothes.

    Dunno, could be said to be Delta, it's certainly some sort of Fi focus, but strikes me more Gamma for some reason.

    Delta I think would be moral, but less morally punishing, and more sitting about doing sweet F with the reality of crap jobs and what goes with it, if they had them, and some more Ne related "zanyness". Going on some camping trip that get's f-d up or something, heh.

    Although maybe I should just say it's Fi. Haven't put a great deal of thought into it, sorry!

    Alpha comedies could be said to be more British, monty python and stuff, it does what it says on the tin, what it's supposed to do? It's just funny without any condescending life lessons.
    * Family Guy: Alpha/Delta
    * Friends: Beta (this is just a guess based on where the character types seems to fall).
    * Simpsons: Delta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    * Family Guy: Alpha/Delta
    * Friends: Beta (this is just a guess based on where the character types seems to fall).
    * Simpsons: Delta
    Disagree, on the terms of what I wrote, that the overall emphasis of the story is a form of moral enforcement.

    But, i'm not going to press the issue, i'll take it you could be right.

    It would be great though if you could write at least a small expose on why you think so (i'm not talking about the individual theoretical characters, i'm talking about what is being put accross as the overarching message of the script/storylines).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Disagree, on the terms of what I wrote, that the overall emphasis of the story is a form of moral enforcement.

    But, i'm not going to press the issue, i'll take it you could be right.

    It would be great though if you could write at least a small expose on why you think so (i'm not talking about the individual theoretical characters, i'm talking about what is being put accross as the overarching message of the script/storylines).
    Disagree about what story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Disagree about what story?
    I suppose I could go and pull out a list of storylines, but do you feel it's necessary? Or would you say from watching it that the general transgression - ugh, word, is someone does something that's deemed morally wrong -> their punished for it by ignoral/falling out/consequences -> eventually this forces them to realise the error of their ways -> when this happens it's happy families again.

    It's sort of like with , punishing the wrong do-er from an ethical sense, forcing them to change their ways. You could say that the Fi wears the trousers here.

    Suppose sort of Gamma outlook, if what i've observed from watching it, could be a way of feedback to American society it's produced for, which is itself pretty much Gamma orientated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I suppose I could go and pull out a list of storylines, but do you feel it's necessary? Or would you say from watching it that the general transgression - ugh, word, is someone does something that's deemed morally wrong -> their punished for it by ignoral/falling out/consequences -> eventually this forces them to realise the error of their ways -> when this happens it's happy families again.

    It's sort of like with , punishing the wrong do-er from an ethical sense, forcing them to change their ways. You could say that the Fi wears the trousers here.

    Suppose sort of Gamma outlook, if what i've observed from watching it, could be a way of feedback to American society it's produced for, which is itself pretty much Gamma orientated.
    It's actually what you described had more to do with the nature of American (cartoon) sitcoms. They are episodic with practically no (or little) story arches. The emphasis are on short, self-standing episodes that can be watched and picked up by any casual viewer. (Friends presents a slightly different case in which there are story arches, but the focus is on the immediate, the present, and on mostly on stand-alone episodes with situational comedy.) The characters do stupid things, but they do not really suffer or feel the consequences for their actions, because by the end of the episode, everything returns to its original state. This implies a far more fluid ethical system in which everything is quickly swept under the rug. The characters themselves also do not generally think that they are guilty in their actions or transgressed some unwritten moral boundary, but they only care at the point they personally feel the fall out. The moral enforcement is also questionable, because the main characters (e.g. Homer, Peter, Fry) frequently get around their moral problem or solve it through equally questionable (and unconventional) ethical means.
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