nevermind.
nevermind.
I don't know what he posted, but I'm certain it had to do with your incredible misconceptions about Gamma SFs.
I can't even remember what it was, but if it says it was edited for meanness, you can assume he was disagreeing... :wink:Originally Posted by Birds
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Olyphant is enigmatic and hard for me to type, but I'm certain Seth Bullock is ISFj.
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Interesting.
I've known a few ISTj's IRL who also tested so, seem to fit the profiles well ~ and do not vi like him. I have a hard time placing any other type on these few folks, unless I get enough contrary data otherwise.
Any particular reason why you choose T over F for him, apart from his beta companions?
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Thanks, dee. If what you say is true, then there is no way I am one of them.
Update: asked one of them to take a brief test, just to see. She scored xSFj, with a current preference for I. She believed she was an extrovert while growing up (as I tended to think, at least, per the std defn) but now (in her 30s) says she is definitely an introvert. She felt confident that she was an S, F, and j. The only letter I was absolutely positive about for her was F. As previously mentioned, I had gone around in the past on ISFj or maybe ENFp for her. I have since wondered about the prospects of her being ESFj ~ perhaps she really is. But that would mean I'd have to reclass the few ESFjs I've known, one of whom tested so even and fits the ESFj profiles quite nicely IMO. I kept pressing her to see if she'd yield on her J preference for P instead, but she would not. She vi's like Tori Spelling, IMO, whom Ganin's listed as ISFj among others. Also, it's taken years for her and my father to get along, they conflicted such that they consistently drove each other nuts. He tests as an ENTp. He vi's like Ed Speelers - alleged ENTj per socionics.com. The only type options I've previously seen as potentially valid for him are ENTp, ENTj or INTp.
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Agreed. Male ISFjs are the hottest type of all. After ENTjs, that is.
At least someone appreciates us.Agreed. Male ISFjs are the hottest type of all. After ENTjs, that is.
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nikki blonsky an actress might be ISFjESFp? She is bubbly
So, he's mentioned constantly in this forum, but I never saw him typed (well).
I think Charlie Rose is ISFj. He is certainly taciturn, but he seems much more ethical than logical. Once when Alan Alda (INFp?) came on the show and turned the attention on him (Alda was describing his near death experience and how it changed his life, and how it important it was for his life to be meaningful), Rose responded in a very Fi-dominate way, describing how close he was to certain people he worked with and how much he valued them.
are you sure you spot ENTjs well?
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
What makes you think so?
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Suomea
If you father looks like Patrick Stewart, then he's ENTj
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Don't know about Stewart, but Picard is definitely ISFj. A really stuck-up (as in, strict) Se subtype, imo.
On what basis are you making your claim? I have seen Picard typed as INTj even by non-INTjs.
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INTj? Despite his blatant disdain for Fe, his super strong Se, and his intense sense of justice, fairness, and duty?
How about the way he only opens up to people in Fi settings, one-on-one situations where closest intimacy is possible?
I really don't see how INTj is possible.
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Suomea
Anyway, his Se is extremely confident and strong, and he makes decisions with Fi loyalty. Picard's decisions aren't "logical", they are "proper", which is characteristic of Fi. If you actually see weak Se and unvalued Fi in Picard then you're not talking about Socionics.
Another argument for his being ISFj is his outburst in First Contact, where he tries obsessively to hunt down the Borg and punish them because they're evil.
How about that the writers simply have written both ISFj and INTj qualities to Picard :wink: And also qualities whatever other typings have been suggested.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
good point
another good point
I had an undeveloped opinion, so I was reading each persons side. Discojoe's was sounding most resonable, until Warlord came along.
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I don't see INTj qualities in him at all, other than having the same temperament.
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I wouldn't say against ESFp, necessarily, but probably not really for, either.
I had an undeveloped opinion, so I was reading each persons side. Discojoe's was sounding most resonable, until Warlord came along.
I had an undeveloped opinion, so I was reading each persons side. Discojoe's was sounding most resonable, until Warlord came along.
He reminded me I hate typing fictional characters.
*kicks discojoe in the face*
jk ily
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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ISFp I'm thinking maybe now....
Suomea
For Picard?
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I think Suomea got aroused by that picture, and started to think that maybe Picard is his dualWhy???ISFp I'm thinking maybe now....I had an undeveloped opinion, so I was reading each persons side. Discojoe's was sounding most resonable, until Warlord came along.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
ISFj-Fi
Not sure about Charlie Brown, perhaps INFj is better.
The very recently deceased Ian Smith, last prime minister of Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe.
I previously suggested ISTj, but I think ISFj is it.
“If Mugabe and I walk together into a black township, only one of us will come out alive. I’m ready to put that to the test right now. He’s not.”
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The current world champion in Javelin throwing.
Definitely. Excellent suggestion.
How about Eric Idle:
I tend to think all Pythons are Alpha, with maybe Deltas (Michael Palin would be the strongest candidate imo). Gamma? I doubt it.
I learned how to understand thick (to Americans) British accents from watching Monty Python. I know there are worse, but you don't hear them that much on TV.
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