This is hopeless, people. Arguing V.I. without referring to functions and the person's actual behavior, personality, etc. is always fruitless unless people come from the same V.I. paradigm.
ILE (ENTp)
SEI (ISFp)
ESE (ESFj)
LII (INTj)
SLE (ESTp)
IEI (INFp)
EIE (ENFj)
LSI (ISTj)
SEE (ESFp)
ILI (INTp)
LIE (ENTj)
ESI (ISFj)
IEE (ENFp)
SLI (ISTp)
LSE (ESTj)
EII (INFj)
This is hopeless, people. Arguing V.I. without referring to functions and the person's actual behavior, personality, etc. is always fruitless unless people come from the same V.I. paradigm.
That's true enough. However, my system has about a 90% correlation with actual type (as determined by both myself and others) in my experience, so I tend to think it's pretty dead-on![]()
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
The person in the pictures is definitely an ENFp. I have worked with her for about 6 months in the past. When I first met her she immediately struck me as a clear ENFp, and she has since then shown every typical sign of being an ENFp and no sign of not being an ENFp. Besides that she has tested as an ENFP in MBTI tests, and she is (among some other things) a psychologist and a licensed MBTI practitioner.Originally Posted by Gilligan
Gilly Gilly Gilly . . .
First of all, if your system is 90% right, it isn't head on.
Secondly, there is NO WAY ON EARTH to show that it's actually 90% right.
VI SUCKS. I so wish people would stop relying on VI over behavior and relationships around here.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Well, the pictures aren't great, so I'm not going to insist on anything.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Please specify (being ILI, you should enjoy the task).Originally Posted by Phaedrus
The problem is that we can't trust people to accurately represent themselves in any way BUT pictures, so relying on relationships and descriptions that they describe themselves isn't really any way to go about typing either.Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
And I know there's no way to be SURE of the percentage, but it's a pretty good bet when people who actually understand the system agree with my VIs almost every single time.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Yeah but you're talking about celebrities now - people about whom there are tons of third-person articles.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
And even with people here who aren't celebrities, you can tell a lot about how they describe themselves and others, like what is important to them, what their motivations are, etc.
Also, I don't see how me describing someone I know is less reliable than someone else looking at a photo of that person. Whom they don't know.
Everyone who VIs me says I'm INFj. Which is close. And I can see VI getting people in the ballpark. But that's it.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Whoopie! I feel solidarity with Slacker Mom!![]()
I have removed the heated discussion and unlocked it, in case anyone wishes to continue --
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, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Why'd you delete so much? I still want to know what posts from smilex phaedrus was talking about.
These, that nifweed quoted elsewhere, from elsewhere:
Originally Posted by niffweed17
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, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
ESE
Really straightforward ESE, in my opinion. He has a constantly "on" effusive Fe, a firm EJ-ish bearing, and by all accounts is a chronic workaholic. In his youth he was also an extremely physical person. A multisport athlete (football, baseball, basketball, and track all at once), who had no time for like anything else because he also needed top grades to get out of his bad circumstances growing up, but was somehow also the popular class clown despite this.
Creeptastic ESE.
I think someone should change Hugo to Cosby.
ESE.
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