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    Please post examples of folk tales in order to make alpha quadra happy.

    ATU Type 1640 "The Brave Little Tailor"

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    A tailor is preparing to eat some jam, but when flies settle on it, he kills seven of them with one blow of his hand. He makes a belt describing the deed, reading "Seven at One Blow". Inspired, he sets out into the world to seek his fortune. The tailor meets a giant who assumes that "Seven at One Blow" refers to seven men. The giant challenges the tailor. When the giant squeezes water from a boulder, the tailor squeezes milk, or whey, from cheese. The giant throws a rock far into the air, and it eventually lands. The tailor counters the feat by tossing a bird that flies away into the sky; the giant believes the small bird is a "rock" which is thrown so far that it never lands. Later, the giant asks the tailor to help him carry a tree. The tailor directs the giant to carry the trunk, while the tailor will carry the branches. Instead, the tailor climbs on, so the giant carries him as well, but it appears as if the tailor is supporting the branches.


    Impressed, the giant brings the tailor to the giant's home, where other giants live as well. During the night, the giant attempts to kill the tailor by bashing the bed. However, the tailor, having found the bed too large, had slept in the corner. Upon returning and seeing the tailor alive, the other giants flee in fear of the small man.


    The tailor enters the royal service, but the other soldiers are afraid that he will lose his temper someday, and then seven of them might die with every blow. They tell the king that either the tailor leaves military service or they will. Afraid of being killed for sending him away, the king instead attempts to get rid of the tailor by sending him to defeat two giants along with a hundred horsemen, offering him half his kingdom and his daughter's hand in marriage if the tailor can kill the giants. By throwing rocks at the two giants while they sleep, the tailor provokes the pair into fighting each other until they kill each other, at which time the tailor stabs the giants in their hearts.


    The ferocious unicorn trapped in the tree. Illustration by John Batten for Joseph Jacobs's Europa's Fairy Book (1916).
    The king, surprised the tailor has succeeded, balks on his promise, and requires more of the tailor before he may claim his rewards. The king next sends him after a unicorn, another seemingly impossible task, but the tailor traps it by standing before a tree, so that when the unicorn charges, he steps aside and it drives its horn into the trunk. The king subsequently sends him after a wild boar, but the tailor traps it in a chapel with a similar luring technique.


    Duly impressed, the king relents, marries the tailor to the princess, and makes the tailor the ruler of half the original kingdom. The tailor's new wife hears him talking in his sleep and realizes with fury that he was merely a tailor and not a noble hero. Upon the princess's demands, the king promises to have him killed or carried off. A squire warns the tailor of the king's plan. While the king's servants are outside the door, the brave little tailor pretends to be talking in his sleep and says "Boy, make the jacket for me, and patch the trousers, or I will hit you across your ears with a yardstick! I have struck down seven with one blow, killed two giants, led away a unicorn, and captured a wild boar, and I am supposed to be afraid of those who are standing just outside the bedroom!" Terrified, the king's servants leave. The king does not try to assassinate the tailor again and so the tailor lives out his days as a king in his own right.
    I think The Brave Little Toaster by Don Bluth was based off of this folktale.

    " The king subsequently sends him after a wild boar, but the tailor traps it in a chapel with a similar luring technique." <- I think The Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy ultimately comes from a recounting of this folk tale.
    Last edited by CosmicGenis; 10-07-2024 at 08:44 AM. Reason: Added where atheist logical fallacies originate from.
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    One Inuit story tells of Snowy Owl and Raven, who are both pure white. They decide to make each other more colorful, and Raven paints gray crescents on Owl’s white feathers. But Raven will not sit still while Owl paints him, and in frustration, Snowy Owl pours lamp oil onto Raven, turning his feathers black as night. Transformed, the Raven cries, “Oh, you sharp-clawed, keen-eyed owl, what have you done!” Snowy Owl’s brightness remains unmatched. - https://www.nathab.com/blog/folklore-arctic-animals/



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    @thistle ATU 200 ("The Origin of Blackness in Animals")

    (My name is Yon Yonson,
    I live in Wisconsin.
    I work in a lumber yard there.
    The people I meet as
    I walk down the street,
    They say "Hello!"
    I say "Hello!"
    They say "What's your name?"
    I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCat View Post
    @thistle ATU 200 ("The Origin of Blackness in Animals")

    Wasn't sure what I was getting into when I clicked on the thumbnail - "On blind faith, they place reliance" will now be stuck in my head for the evening...

    Does the ATU followed by numbers have a special meaning/reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thistle View Post
    Wasn't sure what I was getting into when I clicked on the thumbnail - "On blind faith, they place reliance" will now be stuck in my head for the evening...

    Does the ATU followed by numbers have a special meaning/reference?
    It was an internet classic, that you don't see any successors to.

    Yes, they're the official typology of every folktale on Planet Earth, constructed by academia from a consortium of Ph. D.'s on folkloristics. The full name is the Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index. Sometimes called the Aarne-Thompson-Uther tale type.
    Last edited by CosmicGenis; 10-10-2024 at 03:25 PM. Reason: Added businesslike/passionate communication.
    (My name is Yon Yonson,
    I live in Wisconsin.
    I work in a lumber yard there.
    The people I meet as
    I walk down the street,
    They say "Hello!"
    I say "Hello!"
    They say "What's your name?"
    I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCat View Post
    It was an internet classic, that you don't see any successors to.

    Yes, they're the official typology of every folktale on Planet Earth, constructed by academia from a consortium of Ph. D.'s on folkloristics. The full name is the Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index. Sometimes called the Aarne-Thompson-Uther tale type.

    That's fascinating, thanks for sharing I searched just for "ATU" without mentioning folk tales, and nothing relevant popped up.
    The supernatural category is big because it's broken down into so many sub-categories - The Princess and the Pea fits into there.

    It's interesting how they decide what fits where, because The Brave Little Tailor could also be a Tale of Fate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thistle View Post
    It's interesting how they decide what fits where, because The Brave Little Tailor could also be a Tale of Fate.
    Interesting. Fate belongs to LSI/SLI.
    (My name is Yon Yonson,
    I live in Wisconsin.
    I work in a lumber yard there.
    The people I meet as
    I walk down the street,
    They say "Hello!"
    I say "Hello!"
    They say "What's your name?"
    I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...

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