Attractive ESEs-ESFjs

[UDP]

So who do we know so far...


Shania Twain seems to be a pretty good example:


Are those good examples of of ESFj eyes?


Who else...?

[implied]

AISHWARYA RAY

[FDG]

They aren't really going to be attracted to you nonetheless.

[eunice]

Coco Chiang. model and host now based in Taiwan.

[Expat]

Sofia Vergara

I had typed her over video and interview.

[FDG]

Alizee is ESFj imho:



Her tights <3333

[eunice]

seems like udp is really determined in finding his dual.

[science as magic]

[FDG]

Charisma Carpenter?? Wait, I'll switch my type to INTj.

[Phaedrus]

Charisma Carpenter?? Wait, I'll switch my type to INTj.

So you want to be my Identical, FDG!?

[Rocky]

Charisma Carpenter??

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.




^^^ Loretta Lynn


edit/// I meant to say that those model types stink of exxpness.

[Expat]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

[Rocky]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

Why?

Logic would dictate that if Si= sexually restrained, and esfj=Si, then esfj= sexually restrained. And that's what I've noticed with the esfjs I've known closely (which would be my sister and two other girls my age). The esxps are by far the most sexually expressive. The esfjs are much more "embarassed" by that sort of thing (which is why I think the pictures of the people above must be some sort of exxps).

[Expat]

I would agree that they are more sexually restrained than ESFps, relatively speaking. I disagree with your actual examples in absolute terms.

EDIT: okay, I said that because my ESFj ex and I would kiss in crowded tube stations in London.

[FDG]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

Why?

Logic would dictate that if Si= sexually restrained, and esfj=Si, then esfj= sexually restrained. And that's what I've noticed with the esfjs I've known closely (which would be my sister and two other girls my age). The esxps are by far the most sexually expressive. The esfjs are much more "embarassed" by that sort of thing (which is why I think the pictures of the people above must be some sort of exxps).

I highly doubt Si=sexually restrained. ISFps aren't particularly restrained in regard to that.

[Blaze]

They aren't really going to be attracted to you nonetheless.

hahaha that's not nice

[Rocky]

I highly doubt Si=sexually restrained. ISFps aren't particularly restrained in regard to that.

Not socionics isfps, at least that's what the theory is. In socionics Si shys away and Se pushes forward, that's what the quadras are about. Here you'd be talking about MBTI isfps.

[Rocky]

I would agree that they are more sexually restrained than ESFps, relatively speaking. I disagree with your actual examples in absolute terms.

EDIT: okay, I said that because my ESFj ex and I would kiss in crowded tube stations in London.

What's a "crowded tube station"?

... for some reason it sounds dirty...

[FDG]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

Why?

Logic would dictate that if Si= sexually restrained, and esfj=Si, then esfj= sexually restrained. And that's what I've noticed with the esfjs I've known closely (which would be my sister and two other girls my age). The esxps are by far the most sexually expressive. The esfjs are much more "embarassed" by that sort of thing (which is why I think the pictures of the people above must be some sort of exxps).

I highly doubt Si=sexually restrained. ISFps aren't particularly restrained in regard to that.

Not socionics isfps, at least that's what the theory is. In socionics Si shys away and Se pushes forward, that's what the quadras are about. Here you'd be talking about MBTI isfps.

Rocky, no.

Let's take a look at the romantic description of types of socionics ISFp, do we?

Sensory subtype: It is very sexual, inventive and diverse in the intimate plan. It is soft, but it persistently displays initiative in the rapprochement. It knows how to persuade. It is diplomatic and farsighted. Stability in the relations loves, it does not pardon treason. It is inclined to the emotional enthusiasm, but it does not always follow the call of its feelings. To it is necessary person, capable of causing his respect and admiration by his uncommon abilities. This helps to for a long time preserve to it interest, but if partner will need his concern and he will not repel by its independence.

Ethical subtype: It is romantic in the love, it is emotional, eloquent. It is reasonable and yielding, but it is touchy and we wound. It is subjected to the sharp fluctuations of mood. It can hurry events, manifest impatience. It values frequent sexual contacts. It is inclined to deeply survive its enthusiasm. It is frequently inconstant in feelings, but it is very attentive to those, whom it loves. It must be a little tormented by uncertainty, intrigued, then appeared initiative, if reciprocity it is already present. When interest is reduced, it is useful to cause light jealousy.

Clearly, both types are said to one "be very sexual" and the other "value frequent sexual contacts".

Also, I disagree with your distinction on pushing forward/shying away. Si is concentrated on preservation, which is different form shying away; whereas Se is concentrated on destruction and rebuilding.

[Rocky]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

[FDG]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

? If you want to preserve something, you nuorish, you don't shy away.

[Rocky]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

? If you want to preserve something, you nuorish, you don't shy away.

In essence if your going for self-preservation you have to shy away. If that means food then you carefully pick out what healthy instead of gorging, if you're playing baseball then that means shying away from the plate to keep from getting hit with the ball, if you're walking over a tight rope, well then you just plain don't do it, lol (as opposed to jumping right in). And if it's sex you shy away for the self-preservation value as opposed to the procreation value (procreation is extraversion). Pretty much with anything you have to hold yourself back . It all has to do with restraint. People focused on preservation are overly-cautious, because that's what it means to preserve yourself, and so on (tired of writing).

[FDG]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

? If you want to preserve something, you nuorish, you don't shy away.

In essence if your going for self-preservation you have to shy away. If that means food then you carefully pick out what healthy instead of gorging, if you're playing baseball then that means shying away from the plate to keep from getting hit with the ball, if you're walking over a tight rope, well then you just plain don't do it, lol (as opposed to jumping right in). And if it's sex you shy away for the self-preservation value as opposed to the procreation value (procreation is extraversion). Pretty much with anything you have to hold yourself back . It all has to do with restraint. People focused on preservation are overly-cautious, because that's what it means to preserve yourself, and so on (tired of writing).

Makes sense, yeah. So, how do we reconcile that with the description?

[Rocky]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

? If you want to preserve something, you nuorish, you don't shy away.

In essence if your going for self-preservation you have to shy away. If that means food then you carefully pick out what healthy instead of gorging, if you're playing baseball then that means shying away from the plate to keep from getting hit with the ball, if you're walking over a tight rope, well then you just plain don't do it, lol (as opposed to jumping right in). And if it's sex you shy away for the self-preservation value as opposed to the procreation value (procreation is extraversion). Pretty much with anything you have to hold yourself back . It all has to do with restraint. People focused on preservation are overly-cautious, because that's what it means to preserve yourself, and so on (tired of writing).

Makes sense, yeah. So, how do we reconcile that with the description?

I don't know, maybe bad desruptions, just doesn't seem logically consistent to me.

[FDG]

preservation, which is different form shying away;

No it's not. LOL.

? If you want to preserve something, you nuorish, you don't shy away.

In essence if your going for self-preservation you have to shy away. If that means food then you carefully pick out what healthy instead of gorging, if you're playing baseball then that means shying away from the plate to keep from getting hit with the ball, if you're walking over a tight rope, well then you just plain don't do it, lol (as opposed to jumping right in). And if it's sex you shy away for the self-preservation value as opposed to the procreation value (procreation is extraversion). Pretty much with anything you have to hold yourself back . It all has to do with restraint. People focused on preservation are overly-cautious, because that's what it means to preserve yourself, and so on (tired of writing).

Makes sense, yeah. So, how do we reconcile that with the description?

I don't know, maybe bad desruptions, just doesn't seem logically consistent to me.

That's what they have observed, so it doesn't matter if it's logically incosistent with the theory. I don't know either,ehehe.

[Expat]

What's a "crowded tube station"?

... for some reason it sounds dirty...

Ah.

"The tube" is how Londoners refer to the Underground system, which is what you call "the Subway" in NYC.

In London, a subway is merely a pedestrian tunnel to cross the street.

[science as magic]

believe me rocky, i've had sex with your sister and she is not shy at all.

back on topic



seriously though =//= sexually restrained. you need to get your head out of socionics... seriously. look up that old thread on types who are the most likely to have sex the earliest and stuff too

[Rocky]

seriously though =//= sexually restrained. you need to get your head out of socionics... seriously. look up that old thread on types who are the most likely to have sex the earliest and stuff too

You need to get your head out of your ass... seriously. Sometimes you have to check yourself to see if what you are saying makes sense, and if it doesn't, you have to readjust your thinking (by that I mean, Carmen Electra being esfj, clearly doesn't make logical sense). You have to refine the system, in otherwords.

[Dioklecian]

I agree with these

AISHWARYA RAY

[Dioklecian]

I agree with this

Sofia Vergara

I had typed her over video and interview.

[Dioklecian]

I agree with this

[Dioklecian]

[Dioklecian]

For some reason a had a crush on her for a long time when I was very young, I used to think that she was the ideal girl, and I would marry someone just like her:

[Joy]

I agree with this

she really needs to gain some weight

[Rocky]

Most of these I see as esfp.

[UDP]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

Why?

Logic would dictate that if Si= sexually restrained, and esfj=Si, then esfj= sexually restrained. And that's what I've noticed with the esfjs I've known closely (which would be my sister and two other girls my age). The esxps are by far the most sexually expressive. The esfjs are much more "embarassed" by that sort of thing (which is why I think the pictures of the people above must be some sort of exxps).

I highly doubt Si=sexually restrained. ISFps aren't particularly restrained in regard to that.

God damn right. God DAMN right.

[UDP]

seems like udp is really determined in finding his dual.

It's good to know what to look for
I can work down from supermodel looks and a sound mental/emotional state, and go from there
like everyone else on earth

[Rocky]

I doubt it. Actually, I doubt any of the model-types listed are esfjs anyway... the esfjs I know are very very very private about their sexuality and their bodies. One was telling me how she didn't think couples should even kiss in public, which is why we've never seen her and her boyfriend kiss. Actually, she was embarassed to let other people think that they did anything more then that, even though we can obviously see the boxes of condoms they buy! This is a common theme in esfjs.

This goes against my experience, at least my ESFj ex wasn't like that at all. Rather the opposite. I think this may be more a culture-type interaction rather than just type.

Why?

Logic would dictate that if Si= sexually restrained, and esfj=Si, then esfj= sexually restrained. And that's what I've noticed with the esfjs I've known closely (which would be my sister and two other girls my age). The esxps are by far the most sexually expressive. The esfjs are much more "embarassed" by that sort of thing (which is why I think the pictures of the people above must be some sort of exxps).

I highly doubt Si=sexually restrained. ISFps aren't particularly restrained in regard to that.

God damn right. God DAMN right.

Could you stop being so self-centered? Not every hot girl is going to be esfj or isfp just because you believe socionics says you have good relationships with these types and you want to fill a pathetic void in your life.

[UDP]

Could you stop being so self-centered? Not every hot girl is going to be esfj or isfp just because you believe socionics says you have good relationships with these types and you want to fill a pathetic void in your life.

What's with your attitude, Rocky?

[implied]

really isn't that sexually restrained. it's just that in ESFjs extends to more than sex. like, clean-a-holic-ism.

you are more likely to find sexually restrained (in terms of creativity and how far they're willing to go) ISFjs.

shit, rocky, even the descriptions of ISTps say that they focus more on their partner's pleasure than their own.