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    LSE lmao. You guys have no clue what you are doing
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    I’ll probably wait until I learn more about him before I settle on a type. Judging from what I’ve seen so far, he seems extroverted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    I’ll probably wait until I learn more about him before I settle on a type. Judging from what I’ve seen so far, he seems extroverted.
    Always smiling, community man, warm, wholesome presence, good record of decisions, reasonable. Look at Vance telling his son to shut-up and saying single people are psychopaths and Trump clapping for Putin and Netanjahu. It's over for republicans honestly.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Tim Waltz LSE. As a jungian scholar I can vouch for @Kill4Me’s methods. His typings are credible.

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    LSE vote.

    I like the OP's rosters. The 3 6 gun LSE LSE are rad.

    A lot of mental hard work involved in watching patterns of people, with organizing it and selling it, marketing wise.



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    With Ni (strategic long-term thinking) as weakest function no doubt...

    He's also well-liked by a lot of people because he has a type that completely ignores Fe due to role function

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simple View Post
    Tim Waltz is a merry type belonging to the beta quadra.
    He is most likely SLE.
    Ah yes this chestnut. The SLE merry dude vs LSE serious dude. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing right now, I'm only pointing out I've seen this used as an argument before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    With Ni (strategic long-term thinking) as weakest function no doubt...

    He's also well-liked by a lot of people because he has a type that completely ignores Fe due to role function

    https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpubl...ce0&width=1440

    Your brain on typology
    Um, Fe isn't really about being liked, nor disliked perse. And if it is in anyway, thats most pronounced in Alpha quadra. But, I wouldn't say its a matter of being more popular, in alpha, its more a matter of being maximal agreeable. Btw, Fi has a deep understanding of what is popular vs what isn't, as gauging those things is a type of object field awareness that focuses on what people are liking and not liking.

    Further, because people are extremely complex and IE interactions within the psyche vs outside world, makes for many types of permutations. Get beyond "base function" as the only defining IE, its okay to learn.

    As a side note, people in North America really value Te, this is why the "folksy", down-to-Earth pragmatism is so popular on this Northern part of the continent.

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    Maybe it's pointless to talk about functions since I think Vance has the same sociotype as Walz and he's the most universally disliked VP and probably the dumbest pick since Sarah Palin (also IEI, btw) but we are not ready for this discussion I guess. Walz was by far the best pick Harris could have chosen and republicans will realize over the coming weeks how fucked they are.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    Maybe it's pointless to talk about functions since I think Vance has the same sociotype as Walz and he's the most universally disliked VP and probably the dumbest pick since Sarah Palin (also IEI, btw) but we are not ready for this discussion I guess. Walz was by far the best pick Harris could have chosen and republicans will realize over the coming weeks how fucked they are.
    Whats bothersome is that American democrats will not address any of the right's grievances. Many of them are ligit. There is no growth from Liberals, its business as usual and that attitude is going to continue to cause further strife globally. Liberals talk out of both sides of their mouths.

    Anyway its the Corporations who are running the show behind the Government.

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    LSE is my first instinct, but I can potentially see ESE just because he's so genuinely nice. Meaning, I think he's probably LSE, but he's such a nice guy that he can easily be seen as ESE.

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    Socionics is kinda worthless if everyone looks at a libertarian socialist like Walz who is similar to youtuber Vaush and comes to the conclusion "well he's an LSE! he likes work and community and responsibility". the types don't mean anything. I don't even know on what basis everyone seems to magically agree here.

    He named his daughter "Hope" by the way. what's that type that was all about "hopes and dreams" again I forgot. oh right, the polar opposite of LSE.

    In an interview, Hurd recalled that Walz didn’t overload students with homework, but challenged them in other ways — forcing them to wrestle with issues like the Cambodian genocide and how the French government treated its Muslim citizens.

    What’s the first word that comes to mind when you look back on Tim Walz as a teacher?


    Passionate and service-oriented. I think those are the two things that pop for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    Socionics is kinda worthless if everyone looks at a libertarian socialist like Walz who is similar to youtuber Vaush and comes to the conclusion "well he's an LSE! he likes work and community and responsibility". the types don't mean anything. I don't even know on what basis everyone seems to magically agree here.

    He named his daughter "Hope" by the way. what's that type that was all about "hopes and dreams" again I forgot. oh right, the polar opposite of LSE.

    In an interview, Hurd recalled that Walz didn’t overload students with homework, but challenged them in other ways — forcing them to wrestle with issues like the Cambodian genocide and how the French government treated its Muslim citizens.

    What’s the first word that comes to mind when you look back on Tim Walz as a teacher?


    Passionate and service-oriented. I think those are the two things that pop for me.
    Why would hopes and dreams be such a problem for LSE?

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    I type him LSE- sensing subtype.

    High school football couch turned Governer.

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    I've known about him for about a week and already like him

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    How is Tim and Kamala nearly the same age? Kamala looks a lot younger. I'm just going to guess some kind of facelift or she has some kind of Black/Asian genes that age well. Jealous, I don't think Italians age very well...

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    I know I am preaching to the choir, a damn big and beautiful choir, but the choir needs to sing! "everyone starts cheering"

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c51278...ection-country

    "everyone agrees he's role Fe"

    yeah you guys can't type for shit. you complain that I am mad and type everyone IEI, but damn, you can't type for shit. you would be mad too if you were in my place.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    I know I am preaching to the choir, a damn big and beautiful choir, but the choir needs to sing! "everyone starts cheering"

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c51278...ection-country

    "everyone agrees he's role Fe"

    yeah you guys can't type for shit. you complain that I am mad and type everyone IEI, but damn, you can't type for shit. you would be mad too if you were in my place.
    LSE and LIE are Reinin "emotivists" - https://wikisocion.github.io/content...emotivist.html. That means they focus on and value the emotional energy more than the logical or "business" aspect.
    Emotivist


    • Tend to concentrate foremost on the emotional background of interaction, with ‘business’ a secondary concern.
    • Prefer the new and novel over the old and known.
    • Information perceived as unprofessional or low-quality can leave them indifferent.
    • Have greater difficulty disassociating from requests for action or consideration than from others’ emotions and experiences.
    • If a conversation is emotionally negative, I consider it wasted.


    So my question, if LSE/LIE care about the emotional background of the people they are dealing with, primarily, and can use Fe role. Why do you think he can't be LSE?


    Constructivist

    • Tend to minimize the emotional elements of interaction, preferring to focus on the ‘business’ elements.
    • Have emotional ‘anchors’ (eg, books, films, places) which they use to support their internal emotional state.
    • Can become ‘emotionally hooked’, and can have a strong reaction to a particular part or section regardless of their feelings towards the entirety.
    • Have greater difficulty disassociating from others’ emotions and experiences than from requests for action or consideration.
    • I prefer when people offer concrete solutions instead of comfort or sympathy.

      ESE - Tend to minimize the emotional elements of interaction, preferring to focus on the ‘business’ elements

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Cultis View Post
    LSE and LIE are Reinin "emotivists" - https://wikisocion.github.io/content...emotivist.html. That means they focus on and value the emotional energy more than the logical or "business" aspect.
    Emotivist


    • Tend to concentrate foremost on the emotional background of interaction, with ‘business’ a secondary concern.
    • Prefer the new and novel over the old and known.
    • Information perceived as unprofessional or low-quality can leave them indifferent.
    • Have greater difficulty disassociating from requests for action or consideration than from others’ emotions and experiences.
    • If a conversation is emotionally negative, I consider it wasted.


    So my question, if LSE/LIE care about the emotional background of the people they are dealing with, primarily, and can use Fe role. Why do you think he can't be LSE?


    Constructivist


    • Tend to minimize the emotional elements of interaction, preferring to focus on the ‘business’ elements.
    • Have emotional ‘anchors’ (eg, books, films, places) which they use to support their internal emotional state.
    • Can become ‘emotionally hooked’, and can have a strong reaction to a particular part or section regardless of their feelings towards the entirety.
    • Have greater difficulty disassociating from others’ emotions and experiences than from requests for action or consideration.
    • I prefer when people offer concrete solutions instead of comfort or sympathy.

      ESE - Tend to minimize the emotional elements of interaction, preferring to focus on the ‘business’ elements
    Positivists


    1. Inclination to optimize, polish, and improve already existing things, systems, or processes.
    2. Socially and intellectually more trusting and interested at first. Becomes more critical and disinterested later.
    3. Initially more complimenting than reprimanding.
    4. Greater use of positive assertive statements, even in cases of criticism.
    5. Explains what things are (irrationals) or should be (rationals).
    6. "This glass is half-full", "We have already collected $438,000 for that project"


    Negativists


    1. Inclination to detect and resolve problems within things, systems, or processes.
    2. Socially and intellectually more mistrusting and disinterested at first. Becomes more trusting and interested later.
    3. Initially more reprimanding than complimenting.
    4. Greater use of negating "not" statements.
    5. Explains what things are not (irrationals) or should not be (rationals).
    6. "This glass is half-empty", "We need $62,000 for that project"



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    Walz is a Positivist. you can pull out some obscure bullshit aspect of the theory to justify anything. Reinin is not socionics. I'm very, very certain LSE can't use Fe because it is their role function. you guys can believe anything you want to believe. left is right and right is left if some famous socionist says so. whatever
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    I'm very, very certain LSE can't use Fe because it is their role function.
    Look I'm not saying he is LSE. But I don't think he couldn't be either.

    And saying you're "very very certain", how the hell do you know that? Like, you just keep getting mad about stuff, but you don't even seem to want to provide any "reasons" why this couldn't be true. Explain. Or you're just shitposting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Cultis View Post
    Look I'm not saying he is LSE. But I don't think he couldn't be either.

    Like, you just keep getting mad about stuff, but you don't even seem to want to provide any "reasons" why this couldn't be true. Explain. Or you're just shitposting.
    at this point I think most people don't even bother to read the theory anymore or are illiterate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Cultis View Post
    Man, this forum is frustrating. I hate all of you.

    Eat shit.
    Just go and never come back. Another useless troll throwing a temper tantrum on this godforsaken site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    to me he looks like an ESE

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    Quote Originally Posted by anotherperson View Post
    to me he looks like an ESE
    Yes, ESE or LSE. I haven't studied him at length, but either seems possible. With Biden being ESE, Harris might have wanted a familiar presence around.

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    ESE & he looks too happy all the time lmao

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    I'm leaning ESE for him. LSE's are too rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ren aeger View Post
    I'm leaning ESE for him. LSE's are too rough.
    Not when they are in highly prosocial environments. At this point I see him like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Cultis View Post
    Look I'm not saying he is LSE. But I don't think he couldn't be either.

    And saying you're "very very certain", how the hell do you know that? Like, you just keep getting mad about stuff, but you don't even seem to want to provide any "reasons" why this couldn't be true. Explain. Or you're just shitposting.
    Don't let him trigger you dude. He just feeds off the negative Fe because he can't produce any good Fe himself. It's like a one note trumpet.

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