I will have to opt out of the Zoom meeting this time ⏰️ due to poor time management. Who knew that time has a finite duration? ⏲️ ⌛️
Next time, I will need a week's advance notice once the book club book chooses a book because that's about how long it takes my local library to dial up the Pony Express to get me my book, like in the Era of Good Feelings. Or A.D. 1885 of Back to the Future Pt III ft. Michael J. Fox.
"What's 150 years when you've been around for 4,000?" (Doctor Who, "The Stones of Blood Pt. 3" ft. Tom Baker).
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(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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I have a really hard time reading a book I'm not interested in. I dislike most books and if I dislike it, I can't suffer through it. My brain can't turn on the rational part and just read it logically or even to make fun of it if I dislike it. I couldn't get through the Twilight books because I thought they were so awful, and I thought the author came across like a Fi pretentious douche. And I'm more of a writer than a reader. I know people say 'to be a good writer you should read more' but I think that's just a manipulative tactic authors use so you will buy their books idk.
I love authors who are genuinely humble. Like not forced tryhard to be humble, but it's just so natural. Like 99.9999% of books have this pretentiousness that I can't bear. So I won't put up with it. I was criticized before from running away from things I don't like but I don't care. Why should I just be this docile goy to your narcissism? I am the narc not you. j/k
I've read the book now. Pretty good, I could definitely discuss it.
@FreelancePoliceman
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I gotta get a copy
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Tallmo Want to write up your thoughts here? If anyone's interested, maybe you can also organize a video/audio discussion. As I've mentioned though, I can't make it this weekend unfortunately.
I've been slightly busy lately, but I'll try to write my thoughts tonight. I'd be interested to read others' as well.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I can't contribute this time around as something has happened in real life that needs my attention. Maybe next book.
@Tallmo
Sorry for the late reply. I was busy this weekend, and I've only half-written up the book. Sorry for not getting it in when I said. But if you or anyone else is interested in a video meeting this weekend, I can probably make it.
yeah interested. please add me
I could do it this weekend. But how many have read the book?
@Adam Strange
@Poptart @SacredKnowing
@timber @Echo @The Reality Denialist
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Tallmo If a local library owns it, I can probably read it in a sitting. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain takes ~3hrs to read in one sitting and this volume is smaller. In a good way.
(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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I have been busy. I'll try but I have been obsessing over building a cathedral in Minecraft having named Aushra as the matron saint.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
If you don't want to commit a misdemeanor, you can often borrow books here (may need a free account (many books don't need an account to be borrowed and then read)). Although even this site (archive.org) has been prosecuted.
https://archive.org/
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
I think the best books for a casual book club would be short books of around 200 pages or less, and/or short story collections (would probably result in high engagement). I could probably create a list of suggestions for future reference.
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
@Poptart thank you for including me. #hug_emoji I'm finishing grad school and conducting the background work for a job search so I'm politely declining. :3
Okay,the problem I've been dealing with is on the back burner. I can focus on reading this book now. When will we start discussing it?
How does this Saturday @ 3 pm GMT sound?
@Poptart sounds reasonable. I move.
(My name is Yon Yonson,
I live in Wisconsin.
I work in a lumber yard there.
The people I meet as
I walk down the street,
They say "Hello!"
I say "Hello!"
They say "What's your name?"
I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...
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Just to make sure everyone is aware. GMT 3 pm means this:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclo...9&p4=64&p5=224
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Zoom link: https://us05web.zoom.us/j/8525619744...qFzUKAf9ttJj.1
Meeting ID: 852 5619 7441
Passcode: U81v3N
Argh! I am not ready, having read only a little over half of the book.
My apologies, everyone. I hope to do better on the next book.
The meeting ended. I think we were at the end, but if people want to wrap it up:
https://us05web.zoom.us/j/8380267988...XKkMYq5aFhir.1
Meeting ID: 838 0267 9883
Passcode: 344VNY
It was nice seeing faces to the forum names.
Thanks for the meeting! It was fun.
I got the honor to decide the next book.
Since last book was Canadian I thought I'll choose a book from my part of the world. I also happen to like the book.
We will read "Barabbas" by Pär Lagerkvist. The book was published in 1950. Author is Swedish. It tells the story of Barabbas who according to the Bible was pardoned instead of Jesus.
It should be quite easy to get a copy. The book is available in English and other languages in many public libraries around the world. You can also get it from Internet Archive. If you log in you can borrow an e-copy.
It's on the shorter side. Under 200 pages. Easy to read.
If you intend to read it you can like this post.
@Poptart @SlaveChildOfSlaanesh @godslave @Adam Strange @Dreymagine @End @one @Aster @Ikite iru @Socionics Is A Cult @chriscorey @qaz00 @necrosebud @fiorale @Disturbed @FreelancePoliceman
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The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Great, @Poptart, @FreelancePoliceman, @godslave
I hope you've found the book or some online resource for "Barabbas" by Pär Lagerkvist. I suggest that we give it 2 weeks and then I'll check back to this thread and see how it's going. The book is easy to read, the language is much simpler than "Bear", although the book is very serious. But I think 2 weeks from today is realistic. After that we can set a date for a discussion depending on how far we have gotten.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Tallmo
This slipped my mind -- I was moving and having to get a job; apologies.
Have you (or anyone else) finished? The 2-week deadline has passed, but would another date work for anyone?
I am reading the book, but I still need time. I didn't mean it as a definite deadline. What about you all? Are you reading and how is it going. I hope we can keep this project alive and finish the book and meet online again and discuss it.
@Great, @Poptart, @godslave
And what about you, @Adam Strange, you said you wanted to join the club for the next book.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I would like to participate in the future. Thank you.
Everything interests me but nothing holds me.
If I may I would recommend Nick Cole's "Strange Company" series.
Glenn Cook with a Sci-Fi twist and a healthy amount of modern knowledge. Sargant Orion resonated with me for darn good reason. Dude's an ILI through and through...