Nina Simone

[implied]

 

quotes:

I'm a real rebel with a cause.

I had spent many years pursuing excellence, because that is what classical music is all about... Now it was dedicated to freedom, and that was far more important.

Once I understood Bach's music, I wanted to be a concert pianist. Bach made me dedicate my life to music, and it was that teacher who introduced me to his world.

You can't help it. An artist's duty, as far as I'm concerned, is to reflect the times.

Life is short. People are not easy to know. They're not easy to know, so if you don't tell them how you feel, you're not going to get anywhere, I feel.

My love is like the wind and wild is the wind. Give me more than one caress, satisfy my hungriness. Let the wind blow through your heart for wild is the wind.

Greed has driven the world crazy. And I think I'm lucky that I have a place over here that I can call home.

This may be a dream, but I'll say it anyway: I was supposed to be married last year, and I bought a gown. When I meet Nelson Mandela, I shall put on this gown and have the train of it removed and put aside, and kiss the ground that he walks on and then kiss his feet.

I would like a man now who is rich, and who can give me a boat - a sailboat. I want to own it and let him pay for it. My first love is the sea and water, not music. Music is second.

I think if I were over there in America, protest music would be more important. But I'm not going.

You've got to learn to leave the table When love's no longer being served.

To most white people, jazz means black and jazz means dirt, and that's not what I play. I play black classical music.

I don't like rap music at all. I don't think it's music. It's just a beat and rapping.

I think the rich will eventually have to cave in too, because the economic situation around the world is not gonna tolerate the United States being on top forever.

I think the rich are too rich and the poor are too poor. I don't think the black people are going to rise at all; I think most of them are going to die.

[Dioklecian]

ESFJ,

by the way, I am happy that you found your type Maria, socionics is only one of the many aspects of type theory

[Animal]

She's always seemed INFj to me. There was something very serious about her singing and about her demeanor, even on the lighter jazz standards. Simone covering Dylan was really something. "The Times They Are A'Changin'" with that quivering vibrato sounded like the world was about to end, and the seas would consume us all.

[Kristiina]

She looks intuitive, probably NF.

[Dioklecian]

By the way, implied, I had decided some time ago that you were ESFJ however I did not want to say so for fear of how that info would play out

[implied]

it's kind of a joke.


i think nina simone is intuitive, too.

[Gilly]

INFj>ISFj, IMO.

[Delilah]

I tried to type her and came back blank, maybe irrational?

[Jake]

"Knowing her mother would not approve of playing the "Devil's Music", she used her new stage name to remain undetected." - Acknowleding R but devaluing it, maybe?

"Simone later said that during this performance, her parents, who had taken seats in the front row, were forced to move to the back of the hall to make way for white people. She said that she refused to play until her parents were moved back to the front, and that the incident contributed to her later involvement in the civil rights movement" - F and weak T, maybe? I'm not sure if it was her intention to shed light on the civil rights movement. If it was, then strong T with F valuing, if not, then weak T with F valuing. Either way, I think it's safe to say we can place her in Beta or Gamma and cross out Alpha and Delta.


"In 1958, she befriended and married Don Ross, a beatnik who worked as a fairground barker, but quickly regretted their marriage" - Yeah, weak T

"Playing in small clubs in the same year, she recorded George Gershwin's "I Loves You, Porgy" (from Porgy and Bess), which she learned from a Billie Holiday album and performed as a favor to a friend" - R valuing

Gamma SF so far, but where's the I & L?

"By this time, Simone performed pop music only to make money to continue her classical music studies and was indifferent about having a recording contract. She kept this attitude toward the record industry for most of her career." - Some L here

I think it's safe to say she's ESI

[Delilah]

Still fence-sitting on it, but here's the lyrics to the song i posted:
""Sinnerman"

Oh sinnerman, where you gonna run to?
Sinnerman, where you gonna run to?
Where you gonna run to?
All along dem day
Well I run to the rock, please hide me
I run to the rock, please hide me
I run to the rock, please hide me, lord
All along dem day
But the rock cried out, I can't hide you
The rock cried out, I can't hide you
The rock cried out, I ain't gonna hide you guy
All along dem day
I said, rock, what's a matter with you rock?
Don't you see I need you, rock?
Lord, lord, lord
All along dem day
So I run to the river, it was bleedin'
I run to the sea, it was bleedin'
I run to the sea, it was bleedin'
All along dem day
So I run to the river, it was boilin'
I run to the sea, it was boilin'
I run to the sea, it was boilin'
Along dem day
So I run to the lord, please hide me lord
Don't you see me prayin'?
Don't you see me down here prayin'?
But the lord said, go to the devil
The lord said, go to the devil
He said, go to the devil
All along dem day
So I ran to the devil, he was waitin'
I ran to the devil, he was waitin'
Ran to the devil, he was waitin'
All on that day
I cried -
Power!!!!!!!
(Power to da lord)
[8X]
Bring down
(Power to da lord)
[4X]
Power!!!
(Power to da lord)
[12X]

[Instrumental]

Oh yeah, woh yeah, woh yeah
Well I run to the river, it was boilin'
I run to the sea, it was boilin'
I run to the sea, it was boilin'
All along dem day
So I ran to the lord
I said, lord hide me, please hide me
Please help me
Along dem day
He said, child, where were you
When you oughta been prayin'?
I said,lord, lord, hear me prayin'
Lord, lord, hear me prayin'
Lord, lord, hear me prayin'
All along dem day
Sinnerman you oughta be prayin'
Oughta be prayin', sinnerman
Oughta be prayin'
All on that day
I cried -
Power!!!!!!!
(Power to da lord)
[12X]
Go down
(Power to da lord)
[3X]
Power!!!!!!!
(Power to da lord)
[3X]
Power, power, lord
Don't you know I need you lord
Don't you know that I need you
Don't you know that I need you
Power, lord! "

[Delilah]

^ that's a great interview piece you'd picked, thanks

I just can't shake the impression she's delta irrational, like maybe SLI...?

[happytobestraining]

I really love her but I don't have a solid typing. She seems NF because of her humanitarian efforts, specifically for the civil Rights movement, however any type could do such a thing.

[happytobestraining]

She's always seemed INFj to me. There was something very serious about her singing and about her demeanor, even on the lighter jazz standards. Simone covering Dylan was really something. "The Times They Are A'Changin'" with that quivering vibrato sounded like the world was about to end, and the seas would consume us all.

Thanks for the song recommendation. You describe it beautifully.

[happytobestraining]

@Animal I make typing replies to threads that no one cares about. Perhaps eventually one will light a fire in the hearts of the cold hearted forumites and I will revive a thread.

[Animal]

@<a href="http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/member.php?u=530" target="_blank">Animal</a> I make typing replies to threads that no one cares about. Perhaps eventually one will light a fire in the hearts of the cold hearted forumites and I will revive a thread.

This place is a lot less active than it used to be a decade ago when this thread was posted. Almost none of those people still visit here, and the new folks seem mostly interested in typing Youtubers than musicians of the past.

There wasn't much available on her online at the time, but last month, this long interview was posted on Youtube. It might shed some light. She's very forthright. Doesn't seem Se-PoLR to me now, making EII less likely than I'd originally thought:

[happytobestraining]

This place is a lot less active than it used to be a decade ago when this thread was posted. Almost none of those people still visit here, and the new folks seem mostly interested in typing Youtubers than musicians of the past.

There wasn't much available on her online at the time, but last month, this long interview was posted on Youtube. It might shed some light. She's very forthright. Doesn't seem Se-PoLR to me now, making EII less likely than I'd originally thought:

00h I shall have to watch. Thanks for the link. She sounds so manly in the beginning of the video while she was singing.

[silke]

I would guess SEE and sx/so the soc subtype for her.

[Boris78]

Hi! I think Nina Simone type is : ENFP-C

Myers-Briggs : ENFP-C (Calm, not Limbic) (E) 98,75% (N) 80% (F) 92,5% (P) 61,25%

Big Five/OCEAN : SCUAI

Enneagram: 4w5(sw5w6) Ennatype 4 - Level 9

Socionics : IEE

Disc : (CS) Compliant, Steady

Don Riso Subtype : The Self-Destructive Person

[Guillaine]

Si-LSE

[ooo]

omg omg omg she's everything, IEE <3

[wasp]

is she actually IEE?

[ooo]

[timber]

oh sinner man where you gonna run to?

[Kill4Me]

Added: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/eii-fi/

[para]

Nina Simone - SEE? Fantastic singer.

[FreelancePoliceman]

I'm also curious. SEE and IEE don't sit right with me. She seems fairly introverted. IEI, maybe?