My Type

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Make an argument for the type you think i am.

I've been jostling between IEE and ILE and the more time goes by, i see ---->ILE. Like 90 percent.

necrosebud typed me more NT Fe agenda type style. The tussle with Sol was a lynch pin for it. Like an ESFj pushing etiquette rules over on ya' all.

I know a few might think EIE, but i'm way too silly and flighty, and not enshrouded in any emotional turmoil blankets. Easy going is a motto IRL. I.e., i fail to see EJ in any type in any subtype.

Enneagram insights might be more useful i might think. Please do comment here at least.

Anyone have a deal breaker opinion?

link at bottom is helpful i think, like 5 poems in thread.


https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...34#post1583934

Thanks.

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[Sol]

As I said before, without positive IR check with good known people you may with significant chance: 1) mistake 2) change opinions about own type.
Among reasons is speculativity of today methods and partly wrong theory. This can be overcome by big quantity of interlinked data, when you are doubtful to get accidentlly good fiting to theory of your and other peoples behavior + IR effects.

As you have ignored the advice, you keep doubts and may do the mistake.

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That ENTP gal that i posted in the random thread with the guy jumper style ENTP in that interview, is my humor and silly MO toward people. Everything she suggested is the way i approach humor, and it put the 90 percent nail in the coffin box.

Lol. X1

I'm curious just to know where the ethics forms in the type with Fi PoLR gauging the preach from my probable 1w2 pulpits. Another big lol. X2.

A lot of confliction on the surface examination. pound### x3
*puts on thinking cap here*

Holds up sign, *special unicorn here* j/k alert.

If someone could prove Ti vs Te that would secure the 10 percent doubt.

Sedecology site showed a clever way of knowing which axis you are on by how Ti Fe and Fi and Te work in people, where 1 function grows, and the other is static, and it looks like X in this manner. I lost that info where it was.

[theum nathair]

What you've described as a jumper, some might call base subtype (Ne-IXE, whichever you are). Base subtype strengthens functions 1467 and weakens 2358 according to the theory

I've no strong argument here. Your romanov test results did appear to point to IEE, then again you can come over as sort of Fe-valuing online.

Not much help, I know, but a lot of information gets missed out when one cannot see you in motion. In text, I think id block functions are mixed with ego and superego.. picture gets a bit divergent

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One common theme i have is that ENTps everywhere think i'm not their type, male female, GenX, Millennial.

Including the former active one here. I also got a vote for ethical on a post from another one indirectly, me making an argument for the non T type.

2 EII votes here for ILE. That is it on type here - these came with direct communication - no poll made up.

Deep down i get an impression I'm Fe somewhere. IDK why.

Not sure if this Fe or Fi. I once saw a guy as a kid in a box with wheels with no legs in a department store, and he used his hands to roll, and i wondered how embarrassing that must be and what he thinks, and then thought he's prob hardened and thinks in a must need basis, and is callous to the external impression. What kind of hope could be present, and thought it depends on character, and little on circumstance.

[BrainlessSquid]

One common theme i have is that ENTps everywhere think i'm not their type, male female, GenX, Millennial.

Including the former active one here. I also got a vote for ethical on a post from another one indirectly, me making an argument for the non T type.

2 EII votes here for ILE. That is it on type here - these came with direct communication - no poll made up.

Deep down i get an impression I'm Fe somewhere. IDK why.

Not sure if this Fe or Fi. I once saw a guy as a kid in a box with wheels with no legs in a department store, and he used his hands to roll, and i wondered how embarrassing that must be and what he thinks, and then thought he's prob hardened and thinks in a must need basis, and is callous to the external impression. What kind of hope could be present, and thought it depends on character, and little on circumstance.

You sound like Jake Peralta, an IEE character from Brooklyn Nine Nine

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You sound like Jake Peralta, an IEE character from Brooklyn Nine Nine

I agree.

Pretty impressive, i guess my lively electronic persona is comparable when you have another double, like a template looking thru Ne eyes, with Fi tries.

Thanks for the thought.

I shall pay you on ....

[thistle]

One common theme i have is that ENTps everywhere think i'm not their type, male female, GenX, Millennial.

Including the former active one here. I also got a vote for ethical on a post from another one indirectly, me making an argument for the non T type.

2 EII votes here for ILE. That is it on type here - these came with direct communication - no poll made up.

Deep down i get an impression I'm Fe somewhere. IDK why.

Not sure if this Fe or Fi. I once saw a guy as a kid in a box with wheels with no legs in a department store, and he used his hands to roll, and i wondered how embarrassing that must be and what he thinks, and then thought he's prob hardened and thinks in a must need basis, and is callous to the external impression. What kind of hope could be present, and thought it depends on character, and little on circumstance.

I remember reading your posts in the typology random thoughts section - sometimes they read like cryptic crossword clues.

If you use Ti, I don't think it's in your ego block, especially if it's something you engage with in relaxing settings and don't turn to it first to solve problems.

The bolded part, your deeper reflection as a kid, makes me think it's Fi if any function.

Do you have any examples of assistance or advice you've received from someone that you really appreciated...like it was something you wouldn't have thought to do yourself.
Or if it's easier to answer, is there a pattern of people appreciating you for particular things you have done to help them?

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I remember reading your posts in the typology random thoughts section - sometimes they read like cryptic crossword clues.

If you use Ti, I don't think it's in your ego block, especially if it's something you engage with in relaxing settings and don't turn to it first to solve problems.

The bolded part, your deeper reflection as a kid, makes me think it's Fi if any function.

Do you have any examples of assistance or advice you've received from someone that you really appreciated...like it was something you wouldn't have thought to do yourself.
Or if it's easier to answer, is there a pattern of people appreciating you for particular things you have done to help them?

Hi, what brings you back to the forum?

Re Fi.

I've noticed that valuers here Adam, Kb, Park, Beautiful sky, loopy, necro, gs, the SLI Si, is that everything is about me and my draw in what I'm after. I big vortex draw. Me is the center.

Fi is the ship heading to the goal/ destination and welcome aboard if you align with me. I want these things, others no.

Ti is the ship planning the destination to meet expectations.

I board the 2nd ship.

I have a have poor autobiographical memory, and I'm blind to tallies, on what I do.

[thistle]

Hi, what brings you back to the forum?

Re Fi.

I've noticed that valuers here Adam, Kb, Park, Beautiful sky, loopy, necro, gs, the SLI Si, is that everything is about me and my draw in what I'm after. I big vortex draw. Me is the center.

Fi is the ship heading to the goal/ destination and welcome aboard if you align with me. I want these things, others no.

Ti is the ship planning the destination to meet expectations.

I board the 2nd ship.

I have a have poor autobiographical memory, and I'm blind to tallies, on what I do.

A lot of things I'd gotten used to/comfortable with in my life suddenly changed, and that occupied me for a while. Once things settled down again there was one uncomfortable thing remaining and I think it has to do with my weaker/undeveloped functions.

I wish I could get my head around your analogy with the two ships but it's a stretch for me, even though I know from your point of view you've worded it simply.
Fi says the goal/destination is decided from the outset and Ti continues adjusting because of growing and varied expectations (including your own?)

You have shared an interesting memory here and there about you when you were younger, memories that others recalled and told you about yourself. Autobiographical memory: I wonder if it has to do with introversion and extroversion. Extraverts find it easier to reflect on themselves and their likes when prompted by something or someone else - e.g. a quiz, an interview, driving by familiar places in the car.

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A lot of things I'd gotten used to/comfortable with in my life suddenly changed, and that occupied me for a while. Once things settled down again there was one uncomfortable thing remaining and I think it has to do with my weaker/undeveloped functions.

I wish I could get my head around your analogy with the two ships but it's a stretch for me, even though I know from your point of view you've worded it simply.
Fi says the goal/destination is decided from the outset and Ti continues adjusting because of growing and varied expectations (including your own?)

You have shared an interesting memory here and there about you when you were younger, memories that others recalled and told you about yourself. Autobiographical memory: I wonder if it has to do with introversion and extroversion. Extraverts find it easier to reflect on themselves and their likes when prompted by something or someone else - e.g. a quiz, an interview, driving by familiar places in the car.

Si here. I have little impressionistic memory of the past. It's there but it lacks a felt history. When you asked about Fi in contexts in a tally of one vs another. Introverts know themselves and are in touch with themselves, hence the saying navel gazers.

The best way for you is finding other SEI here in read up on them, or start a thread.

Tallmo is still active.

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I'm a type writer

[one]

For some reason, I see ILEs talk directly. They are extroverted (not much reflection) and they have Ti in their ego. Kind assholes. They're kinda like SLEs even when trolling or posting nonsense.
The ones I see with more fluff and are poetic are Beta NF types. Unless we are already talking 1 on 1, I would have to squint to understand what they are talking about. But they are engaging. Have you heard an ILE explain? Robotic. They don't give much fun feelings. Personally it makes me sleep.

The jumper thing is too DaveSuperPowers. I think MBTI tend to relate quirkiness and eccentric behavior to ENTP too much.

Imo it makes sense to type based on who you think you type as. You should feel certain similarities even if you don't like them very much. Though specially irl quadra mates and neighbors have chemistry so you probably tend to like them even if nothing special particularly happens.

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Useful feedback. ^

Thanks for the effort, one.

I think my flightiness has reached a high level here in bouncing around in type. It is signatory of non ENTp. They just don't operate like this. My reasons for switching around are the feelz, not logical arguments for the switch. I have to get an impression and wear it and compare it to others. Everything is an impression as first-line in my mind. Reasons come around later for things.

It's a slooow absorption process to take on different mantles.

The only real certain Reinen trait that i can see personally is Obstinate. I won't part with interests, but i will give everything else away in this second half dichotomy. That is what i've researched and gleaned from it extensively. My mother was EIE and Obstinate in this regard. Same stripe, at least as a control to compare it to myself.

If true this cuts the board in half, and another half for Extravert. So 4 E types with this, and EIE is the only other real option. SEE ESE

The tools for typing are found wanting, overall.

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My mother used to call me "my son the scientist" when i lived at home. My ESE cousin used to say, i'd like to hear your scientific approach on how this thing works, or why this social situation is the way it is. What is your take Mr cousin.

I once met up with an old friend in high school, and within a few minutes he said you always had to know how everything worked and started to smile and laugh.
Yeah, i always wanted to know how everything works.

*Added diary entry*

My type Te agenda

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Signed sealed and delivered.

IEE.

Thanks for the help.

Thread is still open for comment or questions.

[Sol]

Make 2 lists: 1 - types of people you know irl, 2 - bloggers types lists.
This will train typing skills by nonverbal VI and by common behavior. Will give the data about IR effects.

Give a test to people where is possibly.

[Aster]

Signed sealed and delivered.

IEE.

Thanks for the help.

Thread is still open for comment or questions.

You really seem like an ethical type to me.

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Something of interest cognitively, is i'm drawn into atmospheres or the mood or the essence of something, and am absorbed into it. Like there is no separation of self standing away from it. Not 1+(1 other), but one whole. 1 + 1 = 1

The "I" is determined by the absorption, other wise no useful individuality.

You could argue extraverts need people for feeling utility or accomplishments. If the world is a pool table, that is all you see outwardly in E frames and the que ball is there alone, it does nothing.

This might be Enneagram related too.

Thoughts?

[Sol]

You could argue extraverts need people for feeling utility or accomplishments.

Extraverts pay more attention on external (objects, events), including on what they do with other people, what other people think. Than an attention on inner evaluations. Secondary this leads that to deal with other people for them is more meaningful to feel the said, than for introverts. It's not a need, just which kind of stimuls influences more on their consciousness. While introverts get stronger impression from inner evaluations and processes.


For general types discussions are other sections and themes. The best is to read books and to watch people of different types, communicate with them irl - to understand what types are, to compare with yourself.

[Biscuit]

Something of interest cognitively, is i'm drawn into atmospheres or the mood or the essence of something, and am absorbed into it. Like there is no separation of self standing away from it. Not 1+(1 other), but one whole. 1 + 1 = 1

The "I" is determined by the absorption, other wise no useful individuality.

You could argue extraverts need people for feeling utility or accomplishments. If the world is a pool table, that is all you see outwardly in E frames and the que ball is there alone, it does nothing.

This might be Enneagram related too.

Thoughts?

I don't know if I told you that before or not but check 9 So and 9 Sx

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So, then, I'm an ENFp, so where is my PoLR manifesting in its forms?

I've looked at threads on it, but where is the hits?

Somewhere i should show a lack of consistent thinking, i think.

[CosmicCat]

@Expansion

Do you resonate with IEE characters like Hinata Hyūga or Bugs Bunny?

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@Expansion

Do you resonate with IEE characters like Hinata Hyūga or Bugs Bunny?

Isn't Bugs ENTP? Sort of insulting and not that cuddly? Competitive? Not that ENTPs are like this, it just looks very egocentric. The former i'm unfamiliar with.

Jeff Golblum, partially, it's the sciency personas. I know media shows him as ENTP but i think Jeff is IEE.

IDK which is a best fit. As i kid i was a quite a joker and had a playful mischievous side, but never egocentric or competitive in that scope of it.

[CosmicCat]

Isn't Bugs ENTP? Sort of insulting and not that cuddly? Competitive? Not that ENTPs are like this, it just looks very egocentric. The former i'm unfamiliar with.

Jeff Golblum, partially, it's the sciency personas. I know media shows him as ENTP but i think Jeff is IEE.

IDK which is a best fit. As i kid i was a quite a joker and had a playful mischievous side, but never egocentric or competitive in that scope of it.

Do you want to be successful (ILE) or do you want to quit (IEE)?

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Do you want to be successful (ILE) or do you want to quit (IEE)?

I meant which IEE, in which type character , HN.

I want to be who i am.

[CosmicCat]

I meant which IEE, in which type character , HN.

I want to be who i am.

"Be yourself" is ILE. You are just going through a rough patch. You'll emerge better than everyone else.

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If i desired anything in life, it is being wise. I never cared about logic. Logic is Spock, logic is Data. Being consistent with parts is narrow channeling and working out away from aesthetic wholeness in sums.

I liken myself to something simple like looking at a light beam shining on a flag.
You see it immediately in experience, but when you start to ask questions about it, infinity is in range.
To experience is simple, to explain is divine.



One of my olde signatures, btw.

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Which cognition is present in this thread?

Another rabbit hole, says Bugs.

Holographic? certainly not EII ILE SEE LSI deductive wouldn't you think?

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https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...elating-via-Fi

Her technical skills look NT, but IEE is her type in above link.

In other posts she explains Fi in its misconceptions on what does the judgment look like by stereotypes vs real effect, making it look misleading, where i was at before bouncing around in the mire of stereotypes.

I also had some bias that my technical take on explaining some of the things that i do know, was NT, like once on Role and Base and using analogy of temperature and dominate hand vs non dominate hand. Not so.

Just more evidence for my convictions.

Also, someone out there in internet search land might benefit, whether now or in the future.

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NT or NF that is the question.

Has anyone here on the forum have something to show that i'm introverted feeling vulnerable?

You can play it many ways.

Like Expansion i see Fe in the ego, like valued.

I see Ne Ti in your framing of ideas.

You seem not Holographic putting you into ILE camps.

Vixen said EIE, because i'm never personal, and that is Fi ignoring in an assumption of mine for the EIE tag.

It is a difficult model to tell where i feel vulnerable at, going for PoLR.

My wife is SEI, and i have SLI friends. I never had SEI friends, as friends. The only gals who have ever shown an interest in me are SEI.

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It is going to take someone exceptionally good to crack the code. I think types who span a lot of territory in activity are difficult to type. You become a Renaissance soul, a master adapter.

[Biscuit]

I don't know what's your opinion about types' descriptions, but if you don't mind it here's ILE and IEE by Ausra

I haven't ever focused on your non-typology related posts on the forum, so I don't think I have any other input to say.

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I don't know what's your opinion about types' descriptions, but if you don't mind it here's ILE and IEE by Ausra

I haven't ever focused on your non-typology related posts on the forum, so I don't think I have any other input to say.

Em, thanks.

Btw, i jibe with IEE in that link.

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Votes:

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1600100

https://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/45723-Members-that-totally-vibe-the-same?p=1599371&viewfull=1#post1599371


https://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/55984-Your-typing-of-forum-members?p=1594538&viewfull=1#post1594538


So far 8 EIE votes here on the forum for my type.

3 EII

4 ILE

2 IEI

And several IEE

Si has been trouble, nothing else in my life has stood out more.

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https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...93#comment6893

My post here is evidence of Ti or category shifting.

Is it valued is the 64 dollar question.

I had to reach down to get at it.

E vs. I post:

 

It is just an attitudinal cycle where you start and where you end.

You>them

Them>you

Se base is a good starting point vs Si base, imagining those scenarios as an extreme illustration.

You could name it anything: the people reacting on the fly, to the people responding on the fly.

Analogy:

Like a sports team in NFL football. One side is offense gaining field position, the other defends their field position.

People who move about first we could call "social," because they seek to gain, and the other cohort reserved, because they seek to preserve.

[Biscuit]

Emotivists tend to immerse themselves in the search for an explanation of certain phenomena that they encounter in their lives. Because of their cause-and-effect thinking, they often seem too logical to others. They don’t like superficiality, so they try to approach their work with greater care: “measure twice, cut once” is just about them. But constructivists are rather superficial in logical matters: they are more interested in thinking about people’s behavior and preferences, they like to compare their own and other people’s tastes, and make ratings. Constructivists more often express their attitude to phenomena: they like to delve into it, discuss it with someone.

Source ( Russian )

Emotivists = types with inert T functions

Constructivists = types with inert F function

Inert = either leading + ignoring or mobilizing + PoLR

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Emotivists tend to immerse themselves in the search for an explanation of certain phenomena that they encounter in their lives. Because of their cause-and-effect thinking, they often seem too logical to others. They don’t like superficiality, so they try to approach their work with greater care: “measure twice, cut once” is just about them. But constructivists are rather superficial in logical matters: they are more interested in thinking about people’s behavior and preferences, they like to compare their own and other people’s tastes, and make ratings. Constructivists more often express their attitude to phenomena: they like to delve into it, discuss it with someone.

Source ( Russian )

Emotivists = types with inert T functions

Constructivists = types with inert F function

Inert = either leading + ignoring or mobilizing + PoLR

https://wikisocion.github.io/en/inde...emotivist.html

I formulated this from link. ^

Thanks for the info.

Re Enea types: nothing other than linked articles.

[Biscuit]

Enneagram insights might be more useful i might think. Please do comment here at least.

Have you read in Ennneagram before ? and which authors ?