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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    She was assigned female at birth. But it's awesome people made the assumption and humiliated everyone involved. The boxer lost because she couldn't handle the punch. Fair and square.
    I do find it a bit problematic that two people with an XY chromosome could be in a women's final, but overall I doubt that many people who lose their shit about it have ever even watched women's boxing in their whole life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    I do find it a bit problematic that two people with an XY chromosome could be in a women's final, but overall I doubt that many people who lose their shit about it have ever even watched women's boxing in their whole life.
    People need rules I guess. To them, testosterone levels, agreed upon by a group of I'm supposing university master degree holders, state that's the line in the sand.

    I find it more than amusing that people are screaming bloody murder over this.. it's not like she has testicles that can even make endogenous testosterone. The only other place it must be coming from is her adrenal glands.

    If a 7 ft basket ball player is better than competition, should he be disqualified because of genetics?

    Regardless trans in sports doesn't bother me cause trans people don't bother me. It's here to stay and I think at some point in the next hundred years genetic tech will be used to specie-ate humans.
    Virtues can still exist.

    Gender issues are a huge political dog whistle to distract from actual policies that effect people's day to day lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    People need rules I guess. To them, testosterone levels, agreed upon by a group of I'm supposing university master degree holders, state that's the line in the sand.

    I find it more than amusing that people are screaming bloody murder over this.. it's not like she has testicles that can even make endogenous testosterone. The only other place it must be coming from is her adrenal glands.

    If a 7 ft basket ball player is better than competition, should he be disqualified because of genetics?

    Regardless trans in sports doesn't bother me cause trans people don't bother me. It's here to stay and I think at some point in the next hundred years genetic tech will be used to specie-ate humans.
    Virtues can still exist.

    Gender issues are a huge political dog whistle to distract from actual policies that effect people's day to day lives.
    well yeah, the definitions and rules should probably be defined but it really happened now as I suspected, both athletes with XY chromosomes are in the final, and I personally don't think that's fair to the women who are also competing. I think the right is embarrassing for their insane reaction though and most of them couldn't even bother to check that the boxer isn't even trans. Conservatives really lose their shit over a demographic that's not even 1% of the population.
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    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Conservatives: yo those poor women training their whole life
    Also conservatives: women shouldn't have rights and should be punched to be put into their place

    Shove that bigdildo up your ass. You have no say in this whole matter and your entire existence exists online
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    Meritocracy isn't IE dependent. Ni just notices causality. If anything meritocracy is related to ethics, and maybe utilitarianism. It's more of a societal and then individualistic ideal, than anything.
    sorry. I meant that I could see him being Ni dominant with him having kind of a meta framework. It's my riff off of someone else's opinion... Jess Calarco on X: "My theory of Vance in a nutshell: he's the ultimate and arguably inevitable manifestation of the Ivy League's generations-long efforts to promote the myth of meritocracy." / X (twitter.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyClock View Post
    well tell your male friends to stop cosplaying as females so they can win an olympic medal, it's getting out of hand. it's all getting so out of hand, your UK buddies are launching projectile trash bins lit on fire at the police
    lmao. This has nothing to do with what I said. I don't care about transgender drama. And the Olympian I think you're talking about isn't even trans (supposedly). We could talk about it, it's really interesting, they have XY chromosomes, but a uterus and can give birth (supposedly). But I think you'd just shit your pants again, like you did here (or wait, I guess you are banned...hmm okay).

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    Apparently Trump rewatches the assassination attempt over and over again. I'm not following the election that much anymore (I knew internally that the Democrats were going to win the moment Harris announced Walz as VP), but it is somewhat interesting from a psychological perspective. He seems low energy from the videos I've seen of him in the recent days, and Vance is just a miserable pick as VP. It's hard to comprehend just how bad he is, even worse than Palin, and that's saying something. Trump obviously looks at the polls. He might know it's over. He might not do rallies anymore in fear of another assassination. Everyone knows by now that I think he's an IEI, and I think many here are at least somewhat familiar with the paranoia that some Ni base types can experience with their imagination. I think there's a reasonable chance that Trump might drop out from the race but such things are hard to truly predict when I'm so unfamiliar with the election process going on in america. It's just a general vibe I get. I cannot see how the debates are going to be anything but a bloodbath for republicans.
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    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distance View Post
    Symbiosis: Preacher :: Hope-fulls.

    Grasping at the past way of life of what was and should have been, and promises of what will be.
    The latest news is he will try to overturn the election if loses.

    It is an overall appeal to this channel, it is reminiscent of fans sitting year after year in the bleachers hoping a losing team will become a winning team. Blind faith embedded into the past ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distance View Post
    The latest news is he will try to overturn the election if loses.

    It is an overall appeal to this channel, it is reminiscent of fans sitting year after year in the bleachers hoping a losing team will become a winning team. Blind faith embedded into the past ways.

    We'll take it, anything we will take, is the faithful pine!
    Sore loser?

    Conservatives need a better person representing them.

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    It terrifies me the way the democrats/liberals have really gotten behind Harris when she was so unpopular before Biden endorsed her. The media really worked its magic and so many people are jumping on the, ‘anyone but trump’ wagon. They don’t care she hasn’t talked about her policies! And that terrifies me. ‘Oh but she’s black/Indian! She’s a woman!’ I mean, does the color of her skin and sex mean she will make a better president? what the actual fuck reason is that. and the celebs supporting her! Why vote for someone all the rich and narcissistic people want you to vote for??? Doesn’t that kinda smell?

    I think either way, whoever wins, it will be ok. Because whoever is really pulling the strings behind the scene will still be pulling them. So, maybe ‘ok’ isn’t the right word, but ‘won’t really matter that much’. They are basically a face.

    People just love to hate trump, tho, it’s so funny to me.

    im moderate/libertarian…so I tend to lean whichever way. Back in the day I voted for Obama. My husband won’t let me live that down. Now that I’m older, I’m embarrassed about it. I don’t feel like we have the best options in this presidential race. But the older I get, the more I’m leaning conservative, especially since the democrats are losing their minds! Sorry but no men in womens sports! But yeah I’m voting for trump. And it’s so funny how people on here hate on the trumpets. I mean I am a Hoosier. I live in between corn fields. Derp. I’m voting for trump. Lol.

    But, yes, I’m one of those people. and I won’t be changing my mind. In fact, I’m really excited to vote. even if it doesn’t matter, the dems piss me the fuck off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    It terrifies me the way the democrats/liberals have really gotten behind Harris when she was so unpopular before Biden endorsed her. The media really worked its magic and so many people are jumping on the, ‘anyone but trump’ wagon. They don’t care she hasn’t talked about her policies! And that terrifies me. ‘Oh but she’s black/Indian! She’s a woman!’ I mean, does the color of her skin and sex mean she will make a better president? what the actual fuck reason is that. and the celebs supporting her! Why vote for someone all the rich and narcissistic people want you to vote for??? Doesn’t that kinda smell?

    I think either way, whoever wins, it will be ok. Because whoever is really pulling the strings behind the scene will still be pulling them. So, maybe ‘ok’ isn’t the right word, but ‘won’t really matter that much’. They are basically a face.

    People just love to hate trump, tho, it’s so funny to me.

    im moderate/libertarian…so I tend to lean whichever way. Back in the day I voted for Obama. My husband won’t let me live that down. Now that I’m older, I’m embarrassed about it. I don’t feel like we have the best options in this presidential race. But the older I get, the more I’m leaning conservative, especially since the democrats are losing their minds! Sorry but no men in womens sports! But yeah I’m voting for trump. And it’s so funny how people on here hate on the trumpets. I mean I am a Hoosier. I live in between corn fields. Derp. I’m voting for trump. Lol.

    But, yes, I’m one of those people. and I won’t be changing my mind. In fact, I’m really excited to vote. even if it doesn’t matter, the dems piss me the fuck off
    I think much of your complaints here are just political dog whistles.

    Trump is not conservative, he's a neo-con, who simply supports whatever government reform lessens the burdens of his own companies, as well as his upcoming criminal trials. Plus Project 2025 will cause changes you seem to think will not happen.

    I don't hate Trump, but I do think he is a shitty human being who cares most about himself and ratings than he does about America. I guess I'm just not a part of the grifter quadra.

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    Who cares really? One or the other.

    Both candidates are not very solid and looks idiotic. The greatest country on the planet. Fuck this shit.

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    This doesn't vibe like a winning campaign, when you have to tell people your candidate isn't weird:



    In 1972, Hunter S. Thompson set about covering the presidential campaign, paying special attention to the Democratic Party’s George McGoven as he failed to get into office.

    Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 was serially published by Rolling Stone throughout the year. In one of the articles Thompson makes a poignant comparison to a campaign that happened in Texas in which Lyndon Johnson attempted to create a rumour to denounce his competitor.

    It reads: “This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas.

    “The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.

    “Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-fuckerr,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”

    “I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitch deny it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    im moderate/libertarian…so I tend to lean whichever way. Back in the day I voted for Obama. My husband won’t let me live that down. Now that I’m older, I’m embarrassed about it. I don’t feel like we have the best options in this presidential race. But the older I get, the more I’m leaning conservative, especially since the democrats are losing their minds! Sorry but no men in womens sports! But yeah I’m voting for trump. And it’s so funny how people on here hate on the trumpets. I mean I am a Hoosier. I live in between corn fields. Derp. I’m voting for trump. Lol.
    I always saw you as conservative. I think I mentioned it a couple of times here without posting @. I suspect your husband leans even more to the right than you, and that these shared political views are a reason you are still together. Left and right don't get along. They never will. I despise Trump. I honestly don't know how an intelligent being could vote for him, but I also despise democrats. America pretty much surpresses any kind of leftism for ideological reasons. You can call it gamma if you want but it's ultimatively dominated by individualistic beta types. People will never make the connection, though. Their little theory doesn't allow them to see it. Democrats will ultimatively not do anything constructive for 4 more years, and there's a real chance the US could turn into modern nazi-germany in the near future. They are already supporting facists in israel. America won't do anything about global warming. Your whole infrastructure runs on the idea that energy is limitless and climate change doesn't exist. Before you know it you will elect a real facist out of pride. You won't even realize while it's happening. That is my opinion. Not talking about you, but america as a whole
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    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    I always saw you as conservative. I think I mentioned it a couple of times here without posting @. I suspect your husband leans even more to the right than you, and that these shared political views are a reason you are still together. Left and right don't get along. They never will. I despise Trump. I honestly don't know how an intelligent being could vote for him, but I also despise democrats. America pretty much surpresses any kind of leftism for ideological reasons. You can call it gamma if you want but it's ultimatively dominated by individualistic beta types. People will never make the connection, though. Their little theory doesn't allow them to see it. Democrats will ultimatively not do anything constructive for 4 more years, and there's a real chance the US could turn into modern nazi-germany in the near future. They are already supporting facists in israel. America won't do anything about global warming. Your whole infrastructure runs on the idea that energy is limitless and climate change doesn't exist. Before you know it you will elect a real facist out of pride. You won't even realize while it's happening. That is my opinion. Not talking about you, but america as a whole
    We are all children of Gulenko. We are all IEI. We are all part of humanity, all yin and yang, Democrat and Republican. We can be heroes, forever and ever. We can be us, just for one day. Then IEI forever after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socionics Is Not A Cult View Post
    We are all children of Gulenko. We are all IEI. We are all part of humanity, all yin and yang, Democrat and Republican. We can be heroes, forever and ever. We can be us, just for one day. Then IEI forever after.
    I'm LII. Don't drag me into the IEI abyss. I already feel like I'm going crazy seeing you guys everywhere in the public sphere. It's making me nervous. It shouldn't be like this.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    I'll just lay out my prophecy for everyone who has yet to hear it because, well, that's what it amounts to.

    This "election" has a binary outcome. Either Trump wins and we get a reprieve or he does not because he was so clearly and obviously rigged out of his victory it *immediately* sets off the second American Civil War and, fun fact, the "right" can outpunch the left militarily so badly it'll be very quick, brutal, and decisive.

    Note: The Civil War is inevitable. All the factors that predict such things are well past the PoNR. The only question is if it happens sooner rather than later. Fun Fact for any commie/leftists: My side actually wants this because we've got the high ground.

    We're about to get you in a "mounted triangle" if ya know what I mean. Possible to get out of it but that is one the worst positions to find yourself in. You're so fucked I actually feel sorry for ya I really do...

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    You were claiming the same thing last election, chud.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    I'm LII. Don't drag me into the IEI abyss. I already feel like I'm going crazy seeing you guys everywhere in the public sphere. It's making me nervous. It shouldn't be like this.
    You're still believing that shit or are you just really bad at trolling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbx View Post
    You're still believing that shit or are you just really bad at trolling?
    "It's only wrong because it's just is, ok? What I perceive is right, the truth, the others are trolling."
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Alive View Post
    "It's only wrong because it's just is, ok? What I perceive is right, the truth, the others are trolling."
    All I'm saying is, Socionics is bs and you have a branch of your own in this bs "theory".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbx View Post
    All I'm saying is, Socionics is bs and you have a branch of your own in this bs "theory".
    Realizing that the entire public sphere and especially media is completely dominated by one single sociotype makes me feel things you wouldn't believe. Knowing that this exact type is horrible when it comes to resources and money... we are heading somewhere specific. Dunno if it was worth figuring that out.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Realizing that the entire public sphere and especially media is completely dominated by one single sociotype makes me feel things you wouldn't believe. Knowing that this exact type is horrible when it comes to resources and money... we are heading somewhere specific. Dunno if it was worth figuring that out.
    People are what they are. Money thing, yeah, I'm very money-savvy. I can understand your concern. It's just that... Who cares? We're living with monopoly cards. Money is just a number on your card. I live like a poor person but I can save money and afford very expensive gear. People don't understand me. People in music business cannot fathom how can I have all this expensive gear without any real exposure. When they hear my mixes and they are like "pretty cool". I can dress very nicely on very little money. You just have to have that gift of knowing how to compose your look. That's it. Yeah, I could make money and afford things like nice cars, yachts maybe even but so what. I'd be fine with a locally bought Audi A5. That model made around 2008 looks very good and it's a good car in essence. Nice design, everything well made. Sound isolation, quality in every corner. Am I an INFP? I don't give a shit. This Lithuanian theory is, as I said before, plain and utter bs. Life is, what life is about. You don't know the pain I went through nor I really wanna talk about it. Life is, what matters. My family is highly dysfunctional. I dream of my own family but here I am, spending the night on some weird forum. Believe me, I'm not mad at you, I've seen things that are much more traumatic than some dude spitting something to my face (though you're not). I mean, fuck this shit, fuck that shit... I'll get up tomorrow and the weather will be nice, I'll have some coffee with milk, I might work out that thing with my cabling situation. People in my city already knew about my studio which isn't still built... That makes me wanna actually build it. My current room is quite nice, my music is quite impressive. Does that matter to me? A lot, actually but essentially I wanted to be a mixture of Stanley Kubrick and Leonardo DiCaprio in Brad Pitt's body. There, I said it.

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