Thank god I found a socionics forum, if I had to sit through pages and pages of more MBTI posting i would've gone insane. Looking forward to understanding more about this convoluted ass theory, love it
My Type: ESI SP4 FVEL
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Thank god I found a socionics forum, if I had to sit through pages and pages of more MBTI posting i would've gone insane. Looking forward to understanding more about this convoluted ass theory, love it
My Type: ESI SP4 FVEL
hi
your speaking style gives more of a Fe impression
and you've apparently also decided on a type before you understand the theory behind it. it's more likely for P/irrationals, in addition to F/ethicals. Presumably you have some experience with MBTI, so one can't completely write off your self-perception.Looking forward to understanding more about this convoluted ass theory, love it
it might be interesting for you to make a typing thread + video. you could for example be SEI, ESE instead of ESI.
Welcome.
Yeah, I think of theory and people who more or less kick at the goads around it, are types who want concrete application.
How the forrest got there has little practically, if the language of it is hidden.
Abstract builds a soul, a house is never a home without it
Hearts of stone give a dead giveaway: no movement.
Originally Posted by nifl
hi
your speaking style gives more of a Fe impression
and you've apparently also decided on a type before you understand the theory behind it. it's more likely for P/irrationals, in addition to F/ethicals. Presumably you have some experience with MBTI, so one can't completely write off your self-perception.
it might be interesting for you to make a typing thread + video. you could for example be SEI, ESE instead of ESI.
Haha its very interesting to see how such a small manner of speaking can already create a certain perception of me for you!
But anyways, I used the word convoluted less in a negative "confusing" manner but more like a: lots of moving parts and extended branches of informations sorta way, love that sort of nerdy stuff.
Its been probably around a year since ive been sure of my type in most systems, never felt more confident in it. I definetely understand the theory however I am far from an expert, the one thing I do have is that I know and understand myself more than anything in this world.
A typing thread would for sure be something fun to do, it's interesting as hell for me to see how others can perceive me, not sure how I would go about creating that threa though.
Yeah i can for sure get stubborn about the concrete implications of typology, try to keep an open mind when I can. Interesting nonetheless
keep in mind this site is full of mentally I’ll sickos, Nazis, and more, it’s basically a cult. Just don’t get associated with the wrong users.
late response but yeah i see EXACTLY what you mean
Significantly agree, but it's not so bad or uncommon as sounds.
On psychology talking groups % of people who have psychiatry disorders is higher. But only a minority among them have hard, psychotic level disorder, where is appropriate the term "mentally sick". Such hard cases often are not difficult to be noticed and then to be taken into account. Most of people on psychology forums have no hard cognitive issues, so this does not influence much on correctness of their opinions. The ones who have F types, as probably you too - are 50% of humans and can be said as having cognitive problems above social average. People sometimes show emotionally and morally inadequate behavior, alike you in this theme, what mainly means just to be higher touchy, show higher irritation and more rough in talking, and due to redundant emotionality to have suppressed thinking quality an example of what are exaggerations, hysterical dramatism and kids naiveness. With a minimum skill of public discussions, especially in Internet, to such behavior seen sometimes is not hard to adopt and to pay lesser attention on posts of ones who shows higher levels of nonsense and moral inadequacy.
Nazism is common ideology of USA and of all capitalistic territories. As capitalism is based on materialistic individualism and competing. On liberalism ideology, which is same as satanism and supposes antihumanism.
Cult - is the approach when ideas are accepted irrationally. To this can be related when there is no good objectivity, - what is common for psychology and other humanitarian studies. Psychology practice uses a lot of ideas and methods which have no good experimental proof of efficiency and correctness, hence contains much of doubtful and mistakes. So yep, people who use psychology accept may of ideas irrationally in significant degree. What, though, does not mean that all such ideas are wrong. You often may evaluate rationally what ideas can be trusted more, have ways to check ideas by own subjective experience to arise a chance to use correct ones. Hence the level of "cultism" can be very different among people who uses same or related ideas.
I myself have agreed with IR theory (and basic types traits) only after positive checking this on people who I knew good and when positive data was big and interlinked enough to reject this to be accidentally. This took monthes to accept the theory: reading books, thinking, typing people by different methods. Any noob who posts on typology forum has same means to do this and then mb be lesser irrational "cultist" in relation to Socionics basics. There is no need to be low critical and then to trust and use any hypotheses just because those were written by Augustinavichiute. Yep, that many noobs do not follow to reason good, - use baseless hypotheses, mistake or doubt in own types for long, do not understand and do not get subjective proof of the theory on minimum level as never use it appropriately on themselves. But they may act in other way too.
Your talking style reminds Fe types. You've seen on the forum opinions which you've disliked and have chosen to oppose them by emotions in Fe style.
During this you have show some of problems at yourself which you blamed in others.There is what to improve in your mind. And Socionics has hypothetical means for this too.
upd: ah.. it's you Vixen with another new nickname
Last edited by Sol; 11-13-2023 at 02:02 PM.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
To suspect some traits of types is not needed much. For example, to start the answer with "Haha" is not common for base Fi type as ESI. It's mainly Fe and some chance for F-E types.
> late response but yeah i see EXACTLY what you mean
While the mess stucture of the sentence is common for P types. Also against ESI.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
More of a generational difference I beleive, typing out full sentences, correct capitlization, punctuation etc really has just become obselete online in recent years.To suspect some traits of types is not needed much. For example, to start the answer with "Haha" is not common for base Fi type as ESI. It's mainly Fe and some chance for F-E types.
> late response but yeah i see EXACTLY what you mean
While the mess stucture of the sentence is common for P types. Also against ESI.
In accordance to your 2008 join date i can assume youre not part of the youngest bunch on here are ya. No disrespect
Psychoanalyzing them is craaazzyyy, youre an interesting guy Sol i can see why you have a reputation on this siteSignificantly agree, but it's not so bad or uncommon as sounds.
On psychology talking groups % of people who have psychiatry disorders is higher. But only a minority among them have hard, psychotic level disorder, where is appropriate the term "mentally sick". Such hard cases often are not difficult to be noticed and then to be taken into account. Most of people on psychology forums have no hard cognitive issues, so this does not influence much on correctness of their opinions. The ones who have F types, as probably you too - are 50% of humans and can be said as having cognitive problems above social average. People sometimes show emotionally and morally inadequate behavior, alike you in this theme, what mainly means just to be higher touchy, show higher irritation and more rough in talking, and due to redundant emotionality to have suppressed thinking quality an example of what are exaggerations, hysterical dramatism and kids naiveness. With a minimum skill of public discussions, especially in Internet, to such behavior seen sometimes is not hard to adopt and to pay lesser attention on posts of ones who shows higher levels of nonsense and moral inadequacy.
Nazism is common ideology of USA and of all capitalistic territories. As capitalism is based on materialistic individualism and competing. On liberalism ideology, which is same as satanism and supposes antihumanism.
Cult - is the approach when ideas are accepted irrationally. To this can be related when there is no good objectivity, - what is common for psychology and other humanitarian studies. Psychology practice uses a lot of ideas and methods which have no good experimental proof of efficiency and correctness, hence contains much of doubtful and mistakes. So yep, people who use psychology accept may of ideas irrationally in significant degree. What, though, does not mean that all such ideas are wrong. You often may evaluate rationally what ideas can be trusted more, have ways to check ideas by own subjective experience to arise a chance to use correct ones. Hence the level of "cultism" can be very different among people who uses same or related ideas.
I myself have agreed with IR theory (and basic types traits) only after positive checking this on people who I knew good and when positive data was big and interlinked enough to reject this to be accidentally. This took monthes to accept the theory: reading books, thinking, typing people by different methods. Any noob who posts on typology forum has same means to do this and then mb be lesser irrational "cultist" in relation to Socionics basics. There is no need to be low critical and then to trust and use any hypotheses just because those were written by Augustinavichiute. Yep, that many noobs do not follow to reason good, - use baseless hypotheses, mistake or doubt in own types for long, do not understand and do not get subjective proof of the theory on minimum level as never use it appropriately on themselves. But they may act in other way too.
Your talking style reminds Fe types. You've seen on the forum opinions which you've disliked and have chosen to oppose them by emotions in Fe style.
During this you have show some of problems at yourself which you blamed in others.
upd: ah.. it's you Vixen with another new nickname. Not sure what homosexuality has to do with psyche problems though
Correct. This includes people who profess to be able to assist the mentally ill in a professional capacity.
Perhaps it has little bearing on whether or not they've broken from reality in the privacy of their minds, but personality disorders frequently involve deception. Anyway we've got at least one forumite currently posting with as you say hard cognitive issuesBut only a minority among them have hard, psychotic level disorder, where is appropriate the term "mentally sick". Such hard cases often are not difficult to be noticed and then to be taken into account. Most of people on psychology forums have no hard cognitive issues, so this does not influence much on correctness of their opinions.
Please, cite your sourcesThe ones who have F types, as probably you too - are 50% of humans and can be said as having cognitive problems above social average.
All indicative of cognitive error, surely. None could be symptomatic of humour, that most devious of moral blightsexaggerations, hysterical dramatism and kids naiveness.
CorrectPsychology practice uses a lot of ideas and methods which have no good experimental proof of efficiency and correctness, hence contains much of doubtful and mistakes. So yep, people who use psychology accept may of ideas irrationally in significant degree.
Leaving cultism aside, as it's a distinct phenomenon not properly captured here, forming opinions based on no data frequently leads to the type of errors you've described. Depending on the level of social deception and dearth of empirical evidence, such evaluations may be as faulty as the initial propositionsWhat, though, does not mean that all such ideas are wrong. You often may evaluate rationally what ideas can be trusted more, have ways to check ideas by own subjective experience to arise a chance to use correct ones. Hence the level of "cultism" can be very different among people who uses same or related ideas.
...do not understand and do not get subjective proof of the theory on minimum level as never use it appropriately on themselves.
Exhibit A: the rabbit holeThere is what to improve in your mind. And Socionics has hypothetical means for this too.
Exhibit B: ignorance of science. All animals studied which sexually reproduce exhibit some degree of homosexual behaviour. This suggests homosexuality is a completely natural phenomenon receiving social opprobrium due to fear based in the physical flimsiness of our species... Also, animals haven't got psychesAnd seems somewhere said to have psyche problems, among of which is homosexualism.
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after Perdite vixi has demonstrated the hubris of flippancy:
^
*Intertype relations alert*
Abstract builds a soul, a house is never a home without it
Hearts of stone give a dead giveaway: no movement.
Your talking structure problem is beyond grammatic rules. It's how your mind works, when you write without good preparation.
J types may produce alike talking distortion when have significant psyche problems, which include attention abbility (ADHD, substances, extreme situations, other). It's rare case and there is not such data about you still.
On other side, P types may talk/write excellently when think this as important. Especially P-FN may do so in a wish to give better impression (for example with new people, during typing interview), then in more relaxed situation same people may switch to P messy style.
Your positive reaction on Vixen's emotional idiocy also was against common for base Fi types. They prefer do not support conflicts, especially processing in Fe affections. You seem to have Fe valued type.
There is enough to think base Fi as low possible for you.
To understand own type correctly it's important to get positive checking by IR with good known people. I recommend only then be assured what concrete Jung type you have.
In case you want a help with your type, - a typing theme with needed materials.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
maybe look at IEI instead
the majority of people who browse this site are IEI. intuition of time is the function that is interested in the psychological state of human beings. typology is a field dominated by INxx, especially IEI.
list of people who I type as IEI:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQxpXaUDIfPgz4212tV1XQuLYDCgAKLPfIsMCkFhLl8dHfHbW SnrrLjSy5ZowCcREQuILQyQDPGKXk0/pub
and a thread about IEI examples who look very similar
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...62#post1583162
people who I think are EIE:
https://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/65999-Alive-s-EIE-example
Are introduction threads specifically meant for typing help? If so, my bad for the misconception but im not here to be reassured or disproven of my own type. Im completely certain in being an ESI, although I would be very interested in seeing how others perceive me and my thought process.
Also can't really see the validity of taking my "talking style" on this forum with such face value, and saying theres "enough to think base Fi is as low possible for you". I disagree with the notion that there is a unbreakable correlation between my typing style and thinking pattern. Such certainty without much evidence.
Final thing, just dont really get what you mean by "positive reaction on Vixen's emotional idiocy" if im being honest lol
Last edited by Xiu; 11-15-2023 at 02:59 AM.
Ignore him, he just pulls a lot of words out of his ass, you never supported any conflict and at most we had some touchy conversation that still had good insight.Are introduction threads specifically meant for typing help? If so, my bad for the misconception but im not here to be reassured or disproven of my own type. Im completely certain in being an ESI, although I would be very interested in seeing how others perceive me and my thought process.
Also can't really see the validity of taking my "talking style" on this forum with such face value, and saying theres "enough to think base Fi is as low possible for you". I disagree with the notion that there is a unbreakable correlation between my typing style and thinking pattern. Such certainty without much evidence.
Final thing, just dont really get what you mean by "positive reaction on Vixen's emotional idiocy" if im being honest lol
After all, your reasoning on valuing life that is more significant as people outside the womb are confirmed to have a sense of individuality, Fi valuation as you were concern with the individuals that you know and yourself as well could suffer from the restriction of the access to abortion. less concern for what the aborted fetus could potentially become (more on what could potentially happen to the mother if she doesn't have an abortion) is all a demonstrative use of - Ne(1D more focused on what will happen and what you should judge upon objectively than look at alternatives that are pulled from nowhere).
Maintaining peace isn't really correlated to any function according to SCS(school of classic socionics).
@Xiu
try 8 functional tests
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
Yeah totally agree, we may disagree but i can't say I hold any dismay towards you, that was so long ago I totally forgot that even happened lol.
Really interesting how you interpreted my function use through a conversation like that, I need to get to that level one day.
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