Is Sx preference a usually result of attractiveness or trauma?

[Averroes]

Not trying to be flippant but it seems like most of the Sx-firsts that I’ve met with especially have been either super hot physically and probably been consistently validated and encouraged to express their creativity and sensuality throughout their lives or alternatively been through something traumatic early in their lives that shaped them into who they are. They rarely have a bland backstory and conventionally attractive women are also some of the most “intense”, relationship focused, and quick to become infatuated with someone (or toss them aside) in my limited experience

[necrosebud]

Maybe it’s just me sx-firsts/seconds that I’ve met have been either super hot or been through something traumatic

Why would would you say these two things are exclusive?

as far as what I have learned from enneagram 'experts' I think the claim is usually temperament+environment, which might be...a pretty typical answer in psychology (biopsychosocial) but I can see merit in it

[Squirrel]

Not trying to be flippant but it seems like most of the Sx-firsts that I’ve met with especially have been either super hot physically or been through something traumatic early in their lives that shaped them into who they are

90% of typology systems consider this as the reason of why everybody as they are

[Squirrel]

I once read that in childhood stage Sp doms suffered from poverty or lack of resources , So doms suffered from lack of love and attention from society, Sx doms suffered from lack of love from the parents

[Poptart]

Does Sx stand for sexxxy?

[Sol]

Does Sx stand for sexxxy?

It seems to be about personal connection, than just sex:
"They often look for relationships and friendships that are intense and meaningful; deep and energetic at the same time."
In this case the term is incorrect and such sitation points that the approach with those 3 additional accentuations is practically doubtful.

> alternatively been through something traumatic early in their lives that shaped them into who they are

Same as for disorders generally, personal accentuations develop by match of reasons: 1) inborn weak place, 2) experience which activates weak place. Experience can be any which loads the mind, not obligately something rare and very negative. It can be also physical influence: illness, environment, exhaustion, toxins.

[Rohan89]

Neither

[spacious]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/c...hy_do_so_many/ this was quite interesting (imo)

[necrosebud]

Coming back to this, if we can even agree on whether the intangible “it” exists, personality temperament (such as “sx preference”) I wouldn’t think as being the RESULT of attractiveness. It might amplify your desire to be so, and anyways attractiveness not the same as “beauty” I think

I could say “it’s not about attractiveness” but that might get misinterpreted

anyways to me, at this point, it seems more of an intense desire (with higher tolerance for negative/positive qualities in the ‘other’) to get so close to something or someone you’re practically one

ie a human thing, but perhaps more accentuated in some than others, at times I wonder if it has to do with attachment related wounding

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

some traumatised ppl are attractive
if u want to stay attractive u may become more traumatised
being ugly can be a result of trauma due to miswiring, and having to choose what to keep. there can be a fight for being attractive vs being functional in some kind of way.
intense traumatic experiences do affect the brain and can be factor where someone becomes bored, uninspired and unmotivated by mundane stuff. uve been through so much just to work a shitty normal job have fake shallow friendships make bornig jokes eat chips and paly video games. some ppl are so comfy in their slave live they dont even want to do that.
ugly ppl may give up on sx desires and get depressed. alternatively being unable to get sx desires can make someone depressed and distort their body. and again someone can stay depressed by refusing to distort tyheir body because distorting it is what it would take to become more sx.

then having sex and intense sex can make someone more attractive maybe (related to kundalini but i dont involve it in a setenic way)

sx firsts are usually dumb selfish lazy and impulsive, not talking about actual intelligence. adam strange is LIE sx/so but he focused most of his early life on work. and sx firsts are usually quick to discard people, have a lot of arrogance to themselves in that regard. ppl who arent sx first may be more insecure in themelsves or their choice of relationships, and make themselves stay in less intense relationships they dont like for much longer. sx firsts tend to be more fiery and clash with other people more when they dont need to be. theres an association with sx first related to doing what u really want/desire. ppl who dont do what they want get messed up and distorted mentally and physically. however doing what u want can get u killed and harmed, and can make u kill or harm someone unintenaionally without realizing. so yeah again sx firsts can be dumb selfish and impulsive. even if they realize and regret they did something wrong intensely harming themselves about it wont fix it.

maybe not everyone was meant to have the most intense life. i wanted to satisfy my sx desires but it wasnt possible bc of things like i was too ugly, unhealthy physically and mentally and in environment that wouldnt permit it or would potentially risk my life too much and i was afraid of risking someone else's life so its just not gonna happen. again my problem with sx firstsi s they are actually cowards more often bc they dont even perceive the dangers they are facing, or if N types thewn they are just healthy enough for their brain to be able to perceive it without effort, and are often judgemental and domineering of others bc they think if its so easy to them as it is an impulse and they just follow it and get away w ith bullshit bc they have intuition, and the sensors bc their bodies can just withstand much more and have more ppl supporting them in their bad choices, if its easy for them then it should be easy for others. then again maybe if ur healthy, then u can satisfy ur sx desires, and if ur healthy u will be more attractive generally.

adam said he as sx/so thinks sp/sx ESIs compliment him. im not sure hwat my instinctual variant is but i dont think its sx first. i wonder if the only ppl who should be with sx firsts are other sx firsts bc anyone eles is just gonna get destroyed.

there are ugly sx firsts too but some ppl are into that and its part of their sx allure or wahtever