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    Default Typology is a biased sample

    It only surveys and groups the 16 types of narcissists. Of course people only show malfunctional personality traits if that's how you split it up. Of course a system like DCNH too is all about how people get attention when it's the 4 subtypes of narcissists, and of course all the quadras sound horrible when they're the four Cluster B personality disorders. Like what's the point?

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    The point is to feel superior to others. "At least I'm not an IEI, even though I really am one!"

    The entire movement is being led by unhealthy Betas, who are naturally aristocratic in nature. The Deltas are probably greatly annoyed at them doing this, but they are too busy working at soup kitchens and homeless shelters and doing real good work then caring about something like socionics. The original descriptions were more Delta-like before Gulenko got his paws on it - which sure, could be suffocating heterosexist and faux-moral like, but they weren't Hell-ish or offensive and exploitative because Betas like Alive and Gulenko didn't get a hold of it yet. If more Alphas and Gammas got into officializing socionics, the type descriptions would be way less biased but Alphas like listening to benign K-Pop music and Gammas like to create businesses in the real world that are actually somewhat useful to us rather than purely exploitative.

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    You need to abstract the concept of typology with the people who get interested in it
    Typology is neutral, it just says people are different and give some reasonable reasons. It's all about what you do with the knowledge you have.
    It has nothing to do with narcissism. People with different backgrounds can come to very similar conclusions about people. But in the end, it can be a tool for self understanding and self acceptance rather than self affirmation.

    I don't see why you are mixing a lot of different and unrelated concepts together
    Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
    Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
    Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
    Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
    Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!

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    Jung types are kinds of information accentuation in the consciousness.

    Narcissism or egocentrism/egoism/individualism is other.
    For example, by strong functions people tend to care about other people and to improve the environment (where live not only them). By weak functions - yep, tend be infantile, a common part of what is to be egocentric.

    Seems you don't understand good what Socionics is. So what you dislike is not the typoloyg, but your dreams about it.
    Read Jung and Filatova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Jung types are kinds of information accentuation in the consciousness.

    Narcissism or egocentrism/egoism/individualism is other.
    For example, by strong functions people tend to care about other people and to improve the environment (where live not only them). By weak functions - yep, tend be infantile, a common part of what is to be egocentric.

    Seems you don't understand good what Socionics is. So what you dislike is not the typoloyg, but your dreams about it.
    Read Jung and Filatova.
    I've read too much Jung. Jung created an entire function based on Renoir and believed in ideas like the racial unconscious. Jung added in Satan as being the 4th member of his version of the Catholic Trinity and he believed in ESP, but also hand-waved away any kind of potentially interesting explanation for it you'd get from real parapsychologists, because Jung dabbled in parapsychology annoyingly like how Chomsky dabbles in politics annoyingly. Jung is so bourgeoisie and doesn't matter to me.


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    The Internet 'Narcissism Epidemic' - The Atlantic

    The Internet really is for narcissists. Now, playing a game or watching YouTube or looking at ArtStation isn't for narcissists, but the main things people associate with the Internet, such as social media, forums, and chat rooms, definitely are. Sure, it's possible to have a typology not based around narcissism, but those typologies simply don't have much to say. Some people are active and some are passive. Some people are logical and some are emotional. Big whoop. You can't spend days on such a topic, much less weeks, months, or years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    It only surveys and groups the 16 types of narcissists. Of course people only show malfunctional personality traits if that's how you split it up. Of course a system like DCNH too is all about how people get attention when it's the 4 subtypes of narcissists, and of course all the quadras sound horrible when they're the four Cluster B personality disorders. Like what's the point?
    Honestly? Tool for reflection. Or what @MathHysteriaOfSoul said. But if this is how you reflect, then what's the point, indeed.

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