There's this smirkey laugh or I call it laughing at myself at the end of her little speech
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...2&action=click
There's this smirkey laugh or I call it laughing at myself at the end of her little speech
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...2&action=click
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
To me any recurrent emotional displays in terms of body language, facial expressions and words rule out EII because they simply don't do that. It's not their natural Modus Operandi, flat facial expressions are expected from an Fi dom (still water runs deep) with Fe ignoring/observant. It seems like some people mistakenly associated Fi with emotional warmth. Introverted Feelings ties with the subjective factor,
Fi doesn't express anything, neither sympathy nor antipathy, those feelings (like all feelings) are subjectively felt (or not) and define the relationship between the subject and the object to which a feeling charge is attributed (either positive or negative (Fi doesn't like neutral polarity)). Take the usual facial expression of Hayao Miyazaki (EII according to most typologists) for instance and you'll see that flat affect I'm talking about. Even when he smiles and express some emotions (with people he's close to) it's measured and not exaggerated. All those complex feelings and world view are expressed in his wonderful work, not in his face or demeanor.
By the way, MBTI INFJ doesn't equate EII (INFj), this association may cloud one's judgment and forge an erroneous mental Type image of EII.
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Last edited by chriscorey; 03-04-2023 at 07:18 AM.
Susan Cain is perhaps EII, yeah
To say or do something similar is possible for people of different types. More such when it's small or not strictly related to concrete type.
To identify types mainly by common behaivor needs to know a human good. Not something limited said for public. Many of different data. At least, for not good-known human is needed good questionnaire and better when the human does not know types theory to filter it. For famouses only nonverbal gives good data.
Susan Cain can to have Fi, unlike those for which what said the other
Neil Jordan
Tom Felton
Daniel Day Lewis (?)
Jeremy Irons (?)
i am looking for EII males lol
Joel from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Mob Kageyama from Mob Psycho 100.
maybe he isn’t then lol, hmm I disagree though, LSI can have their moments where they scare me. I think I would end up feeling abused in an activity relationship myself. Maybe even more than a conflict one.
he says he loves the U2 film music in that vid- makes me think LSI..
I have never been much attracted to LSI, I don’t know why, I think I am a bit IEE like..but do not question my type lol
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
if you think that it's ''ridiculous'' to say that the perception of LSI by IEI as ''totally unnerving'' is uncommon, then you may understand your own ITR from a wrong basis, such as being mistyped; if you, for example have similar views about ''unnerving'' SLI, thinking yourself EII. your profile pic looks more like EXFX
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Probs best to be cautious around anyone who seems ‘unnerving’..
personally the reason I find activity somewhat attractive is because they remind me of my look-a-like partner SEI.
the guy is also a talented actor…these playful type of personalities can be quite disarming..
And I said IJ were ‘unnerving’ and it was somewhat a joke…but yes LSI can seem a bit unnerving.
Last edited by Bethanyclaire; 03-17-2023 at 06:19 PM.
Maybe James Norton
It's not what I have said here. And I never said what you've assigned me.
In common perception of any type in good IR does not exist significant fear, as those people inspire a trust for a cooperation. It's also not common with having good IR to perceive people _very negatively_, so such perception reduces the _chance_ that IR are good.
In _rare_ cases or some situations _additional_ negative factors may overweight significant influence of good IR. What is doubtful for the case with the discussed actor, so irrationally negative perception fits badly to good IR with him.
> He has all kinds of ridiculous theories about type and behavior
I use basic types theory. While you reject it to rationalize your mistake in own type and types of others.
As when you opposed to idea that good IR help with a sympathy and friendship.
Also you tend to assign to people what they do not say and do not do, spread misleading gossips. Then you fight with own fantasies and predispose others by misleading to do the same. As was in case of your discussion of SLE, where claiming as "soft" to be not SLE turned in your mind to claiming about SLE being "inhuman". There you protected your opinion about someone who you perceive personally positively and in long friendly relations (after a "romance") to have conflicting(!) IR with you, instead of assuming that IR can be not so bad, as the described is uncommon for such IR.
Last edited by Sol; 03-19-2023 at 08:26 PM.
Dr. Gabor Mate is probably one of the most viewed EII ever
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Maritsa has EIE. Her weakest function is T. Negative traits of her Jung type become more expressed in stressful for her themes and when having such life situations. Besides generally having not best psyche, moral decency and seems intelligence, education.
All this predisposes her to ignore logics, especially logical objectivity (Te) in unusually high and noticable degree. To make strange claims from common theory point and general events. To think wrong type for herself despite much against it. Also, a part of this is her tendency to spread misleading gossips, especially for emotional influence on others.
In short - she does not care much what is truth, reality and to say truth to others. But has very high wish to keep own opinions which are supposed by her as important to have more pleasant emotions for her. She has above common egocentrism in morality and thinking.
She's good case to notice negative traits which you may meet in F types. With bad IR such people annoy especially.
Base Fe will express to Te types those negative traits more openly, as are annoyed by Te rationaly the most of all.
Also, for Maritsa I suspect additional factor.
A mental disorder, which may progress. So to influence on her logically is doubtful.
She'll be posting nonsense about types and lie further.
When she'll write: 2+2=5. You'll say: 4. She'll be repling "Whatever dude" / I don't care.
Unlike other ones such I saw, she just posts about types more than common for them.
Other people, who think not badly, will be stoping to take her seriously after a time.
As optimum way seems to let her do anything without comments, than to spare the attention on her.
In case of negative IR what she does is perceived more annoying, while for others she may be funny with some inadequacy and misleading.
Last edited by Sol; 03-20-2023 at 07:09 AM.
I’m not really sure all the NF is so in tune with grails of holy chosen figurines and robes of silver to escalate the beach tide or arrive at the wizard’s destined and appointed hour…
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@Sol
It looks like it. She's less adamant on video than I imagined her based on forum behaviour, which may be a strong argument in her own mind against EIE.Maritsa has EIE.
I know an EIE who seemingly due to specific life events, type of education & self-wishes has a self-perception more like an I type too, and T. Although she doesn't have intricate knowledge of MBTI/Jung/Sociotypes. Presumably the relative rejection of Te & Ne along with being an F increases the average difficulties with understanding the correct type that one has.
Here those Te + Fe specific situations are usually pointing out that their behaviour is in contradiction with the self-ascribed type, which just gets a weird or hysterical response. Situations where Fi's will either ignore or whine more innocently and indirectly, to keep the relatively pleasant relation to others; and Fi's care more about those facts, anyways, so the interaction is easier with them. Unpleasant experiences with Fi's are more where they go 'cold' and indirectly show their dislike when you say what you think (''I don't want to talk to you!'' or general decreasing of contact). I suppose this is especially annoying for Ti's.With bad IR such people annoy especially.
Some ITR also shifts on a forum like this, because of the relative focus on T above other functions in discussing the subject. IRL SEI would be less annoying for me, for example.
It seems that most of those others who don't get their type and don't engage seriously in discussion about it mainly post in off-topic threads, like BraveSailorBoy and Miss Maverick (both Fe's, the Miss seems EIE too). So the investment in Socionics is lower for them, at least consciously, which reduces the risk of problems from applying it IRL.Unlike other ones such I saw, she just posts about types more than common for them.
Among differences of common for types, base Fi do not attack on polite behavior to them. When they dislike something - they go away, reduce any emotions, do polite criticism, but not provoke emotional conflicting as base Fe do often.
To get the other would need something unusually strong and rare, so base Fi would ignore own base function. They'd anyway tried to be as polite as possible by format, even when provoking by the sense. Dumb rough talking style alike there is very against base Fi. Especially EII which are lesser direct and primitive than Se in how to transfer own relation and solve situations.
> where they go 'cold' and indirectly show their dislike when you say what you think (''I don't want to talk to you!'' or general decreasing of contact). I suppose this is especially annoying for Ti's.
For Te is annoying too, when a human is not emotionally indifferent. You are tuned to get warm emotions, and when get coldness that is not pleasant at all.
Also to note, that for E*FP behavior related to Fi is lesser expressed. Besides those are lesser restrained being E and P.
> It seems that most of those others who don't get their type and don't engage seriously in discussion about it mainly post in off-topic threads, like BraveSailorBoy and Miss Maverick (both Fe's, the Miss seems EIE too).
Most people on typology forums have no serious interest in types. The possible reason is that to understand the usefulness of the theory it needs efforts. People are lazy. Also not all use correct theory, methods expanded with nonverbal behavior.
The majority (>90%) never does good (and with positive result) IR checking of own types - so they do not see how IR work. They have as reduced the possibility to understand the usefulness of other theory too. As without such checking they often mistake in own types and will do more mistakes in types of people they know good, have lesser possibility to develop typing skills.
So the majority mainly sees a mess when tries to use types theory. So they do not value high this theory. And there is no authority source with objective positive experiments to explain that the problem is non-appropriate usage, but not the theory itself.
Look what I found….
INFJ (her) and ESTJ (him) couple!!!!
https://youtube.com/shorts/0QXF4H7z6Ug?feature=share
They are just the most adorable
https://youtube.com/shorts/RLg1s-eg3fs?feature=share
And minus direct and conflict avoidant EII lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/YL_OrX9Py6o?feature=share
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Rae & Jake
Jake - mb ENTP
Rae - ESTP
Yeah the lady is not EII, not sure what type the guy is.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Both seem Fe
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
https://vimeo.com/48658628
she may be EII
it's possible katie marie might be Fi lead too
Last edited by necrosebud; 03-29-2023 at 12:59 AM.
this one is perhaps LIE
Faith in humanity
She’s not EII. She’s human
Small things
https://youtube.com/shorts/WVLHdxxreyI?feature=share
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
There are EII who love color and makeup or art this is not type related
There are EII who shed their material life and model minimalism again not type related
No matter what EII like they always want to bring their ideals to the world of “how one should be….. towards…. “
You get what I mean by Fi
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html