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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    I understand her frustration. I’m naturally skinny (as of now, anyway) and I’ve always been slightly underweight. I’ve had to endure a lot of comments from people telling me I need to eat more, I need to gain some weight, I’m too scrawny for my own good, I gotta lift some weights, people asking if I’m anorexic, etc. Some people say this stuff with good intentions but they just don’t word it well, and some are simply being mean. There comes a point when you just get sick of the comments. It must be even worse when it’s coming from your own doctor!

    I also can’t eat very fatty foods or else I feel sick.
    when I was around 18 or 19 years old, my weight was 125 pounds at 5'10, so I know your experiences, but overall the answer is to eat more. back then I was just constantly forgetting to eat or not paying that much attention to it. my advice would be to eat a lot of nuts. maybe you can find a meal replacement shake that you enjoy to get in some calories too. my current weight is 158 lbs and I'm much happier with it, but the reality is that you gotta conciously make the effort to eat more. when I was in my early twenties people would often comment how they are jealous of my fast metabolism but the reality is that I just don't eat that much. when you only eat one meal a day for 2 or 3 days you lose a lot of weight in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    when I was around 18 or 19 years old, my weight was 125 pounds at 5'10, so I know your experiences, but overall the answer is to eat more. back then I was just constantly forgetting to eat or not paying that much attention to it. my advice would be to eat a lot of nuts. maybe you can find a meal replacement shake that you enjoy to get in some calories too. my current weight is 158 lbs and I'm much happier with it, but the reality is that you gotta conciously make the effort to eat more. when I was in my early twenties people would often comment how they are jealous of my fast metabolism but the reality is that I just don't eat that much. when you only eat one meal a day for 2 or 3 days you lose a lot of weight in no time.
    Wow, 125 pounds at 5’10! You beat me

    Admittedly, I didn’t always eat 3 meals a day when I was in university, but nowadays I’m a lot more disciplined about my dietary habits. I regularly eat nuts (I love nut mixes, mmm), and I’ve been cooking for myself a lot more now, which makes eating a lot more enjoyable and interesting. I try to never skip a meal. Ironically, I weigh the same now as I did in university, when I ate the least. It’s probably just that I have a fast metabolism. Perhaps that will change as I age.

    It’s just hard to force myself to eat more when I’m usually full, and the thought of eating more than I do (I eat enough, occasionally a little more than enough) sort of freaks me out because I hate that feeling of being “overstuffed.” It discomforts me greatly! Which is why I just don’t want to eat more than I do.

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    Maybe keep track of what you are eating throughout your day for a couple of weeks. We are often a bit ignorant to how much we exactly eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    when I was around 18 or 19 years old, my weight was 125 pounds at 5'10, so I know your experiences, but overall the answer is to eat more. back then I was just constantly forgetting to eat or not paying that much attention to it. my advice would be to eat a lot of nuts. maybe you can find a meal replacement shake that you enjoy to get in some calories too. my current weight is 158 lbs and I'm much happier with it, but the reality is that you gotta conciously make the effort to eat more. when I was in my early twenties people would often comment how they are jealous of my fast metabolism but the reality is that I just don't eat that much. when you only eat one meal a day for 2 or 3 days you lose a lot of weight in no time.
    Eating isn't fun for you?

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    I can't imagine that life, food is so good I can just mukbang the whole week with @simpin is pimpin

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    Apparently Joe Rogan also has something to add to this thread as this article discusses.

    Philip DeFranco also discusses Joe Rogan's claims about obesity, as well as Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford's claims, in the first 5 minutes of this video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    Eating isn't fun for you?
    It's just not a priority for me, so I can forget to eat very easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjoerd View Post
    Same. Eating has always been a chore. I'm over 30 but I'm still around 130 lbs. "Luckily," I'm also shorter than an average male and I can at least find slim clothes in the women section and pick stuff that are more unisex in style, lol.
    My brother is around 5'6, slim, and has the same problem. Even size small doesn't really fit him, as most clothes nowadays are designed around overweight people. For this reason he doesn't like shopping for clothes at all. I also dislike shopping so I mainly order them online but at least I don't have the problem of clothes not fitting me
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    I could have had way worse weight gain. Look up Zyprexa/olanzapine weight gain, for those that want to see how bad people have gained weight from this med. I read that it can cause on average a ten lbs weight gain, and still thought, ‘not me.’ Well, it’s real. My doc said he knew people that had gained 60lbs in 2 months. I gained 10lbs in 2 months. The other 10lbs was from other similar meds. I went from 115 to 135lbs and now I’m scratching my head, like oh shit, you better go on a serious diet, then I’m starving and eating chocolate cake with a fork out of the fridge. I’m really sympathizing with over weight people hard now.
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    Confession…. I did gain 20 pounds over Covid and maintained it for two years. People who have met me over the past couple of years say that I am “small” but people who knew me before have commented that I have gotten “chunky”. 92 to 112. So I can mildly understand weight issues. I am now down to around 104 and working towards losing 9-12 more more pounds.

    I significantly cut back on non-water drinks, take out, and conditioned stress snacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    Confession…. I did gain 20 pounds over Covid and maintained it for two years. People who have met me over the past couple of years say that I am “small” but people who knew me before have commented that I have gotten “chunky”. 92 to 112. So I can mildly understand weight issues. I am now down to around 104 and working towards losing 9-12 more more pounds.

    I significantly cut back on non-water drinks, take out, and conditioned stress snacking.
    LOL my dad told me my face looked ‘swollen’ and seemed really concerned…

    Some people are so blunt on external stuff. “No dad, I just got fat! But thanks”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    LOL my dad told me my face looked ‘swollen’ and seemed really concerned…

    Some people are so blunt on external stuff. “No dad, I just got fat! But thanks”.
    Hahahaha I feel your pain. Both my parents have commented on how I was getting too heavy at 112 lbs. It sucks being petite, eh?

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    @kuno: My former fwb was legit 6’1 and 135-140 lbs (mid-30s). He just sometimes didn’t “feel” like eating even when he felt hunger pains. It seems like some people just aren’t super driven by food. I felt like a “whale” compared to him, because he was just 25+ lbs heavier while being 14 inches taller than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    @kuno: My former fwb was legit 6’1 and 135-140 lbs (mid-30s). He just sometimes didn’t “feel” like eating even when he felt hunger pains. It seems like some people just aren’t super driven by food. I felt like a “whale” compared to him, because he was just 25+ lbs heavier while being 14 inches taller than me.
    That's crazy!! I know when I was in college, I felt so stretched thin by my constant obligations that sometimes I would barely eat, but this was a torturous ordeal for me. I often don't look back on college with much fondness for reasons like this. I don't overeat, but I also can't imagine not eating just cuz I don't feel like it.

    I imagine that people who don't value Si are more prone to ignore hunger pangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    That's crazy!! I know when I was in college, I felt so stretched thin by my constant obligations that sometimes I would barely eat, but this was a torturous ordeal for me. I often don't look back on college with much fondness for reasons like this. I don't overeat, but I also can't imagine not eating just cuz I don't feel like it.

    I imagine that people who don't value Si are more prone to ignore hunger pangs.
    whoa that sounds kinda rough… like a bit destabilizing.

    Lol yea, he is LSI-Se C. He really enjoys cooking but he’s very inconsistent with eating.

    I personally tend to overeat or undereat and have always had a weird relationship with food. I admire how a lot of Si leads are usually so in tune with their body. Most of the time, I am oblivious to my body cues, tensions, and exhaustion levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    whoa that sounds kinda rough… like a bit destabilizing.

    Lol yea, he is LSI-Se C. He really enjoys cooking but he’s very inconsistent with eating.

    I personally tend to overeat or undereat and have always had a weird relationship with food. I admire how a lot of Si leads are usually so in tune with their body. Most of the time, I am oblivious to my body cues, tensions, and exhaustion levels.
    My dad is also LSI (not sure what subtype) and Si + Te matters drive him crazy, though he's good at them. I'm the one who does the cooking and he gladly eats the food I make lol (and he cleans the dishes for me to help out).

    But my dad always tells me that if it weren't for me cooking, he would just pop frozen foods into the microwave everyday and just eat that. He's not really concerned with eating tasty food much of the time; he just wants whatever food is convenient.

    Sometimes I wish I were that easy to please lol. It's not that I need gourmet food everyday, but I like to have something that fills me, tastes good, and gives me necessary nutrients.

    I admire anyone who values Se or Te, and especially people who are good at using either of those IMEs, because they seem to be good at getting things done. I've always struggled with mobilizing myself

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    Aside from obvious reasons people tend to have deep hate because they have also been shamed of it or have this fear of being shamed for it so they shame actual fat or fatter people as a response. It's the same thing we hate about others, it's kind of internalized hate or projection. For example I would hate people who aren't responsible because I felt like I always have to be responsible. So it's the same with fat like we're trying hard to be healthy why can't they. Sometimes it's like that. Maybe people who have been fat or have struggled and accepted it are more forgiving. It's very difficult to not feel bad when you're trying hard you see people who are more "free"
    People should mind their own business. But there’s situations you have to call people out when they didn’t “try” enough:

    Those who didn’t “try” complain about the consequences of their action too much, and worst, start blaming others

    People who get responsibility for a specific job, and didn’t get their job done. Those who hire them, or those who work with them have every right to at least have an opinion about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    Lol yea, he is LSI-Se C. He really enjoys cooking but he’s very inconsistent with eating.
    I don't think that sensing types ignore signals from their body like that. It's usually the intuitives who won't eat even when they are hungry. I think sensing types are more prone to obesity, but with all the garbage you can buy everywhere it's easy for some intuitives to fall into that trap too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I don't think that sensing types ignore signals from their body like that. It's usually the intuitives who won't eat even when they are hungry. I think sensing types are more prone to obesity, but with all the garbage you can buy everywhere it's easy for some intuitives to fall into that trap too
    There’s probably some truth to that but he’s extremely aware of his surroundings, has excellent reflexes, and is prone to seek out sensory experiences. Too much intellectual hypothesizing and he will just tell you to kindly shut up. He just would rather drink and smoke weed than deal with the upkeep of “eating”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    There’s probably some truth to that but he’s extremely aware of his surroundings, has excellent reflexes, and is prone to seek out sensory experiences. Too much intellectual hypothesizing and he will just tell you to kindly shut up. He just would rather drink and smoke weed than deal with the upkeep of “eating”.
    is he interested in math or does he play an instrument?
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    Shame on Alive's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    is he interested in math or does he play an instrument?
    No, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EIE H View Post
    No, why?
    Was just curious.
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    I mean, there's a difference between being an enabler and treating people with respect and decency. I know it might sound like I'm promoting unhealthy lifestyles and disordered eating or whatever, but really I'm not. You're deserving of love, respect and admiration even if you're overweight, obese, underweight... And you should love yourself regardless of that. Hating yourself for not being perfect isn't good either, and really you can't live your life following extreme standards just to please everyone. It's not your place to make other's happy only you. If it upsets them then oh well that's on them. If they don't like you then they don't have to look

    As long as you're comfortable happy and content when you look in the mirror that's all that matters in my book.

    I'd even go so far as to say that self love DOES include taking care of your body, as well as mental state and doing things that make you happy and in tune with your body. It doesn't exclude healthy routines and meals but it's a part of it.

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    Not everyone is the same. We all can't follow strict dietary routines that cut out carbs and things that are bad-yet-delicious like candy and soda. That's where moderation comes in. You should be allowed to treat yourself with these things

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavender latte View Post
    I mean, there's a difference between being an enabler and treating people with respect and decency. I know it might sound like I'm promoting unhealthy lifestyles and disordered eating or whatever, but really I'm not. You're deserving of love, respect and admiration even if you're overweight, obese, underweight... And you should love yourself regardless of that. Hating yourself for not being perfect isn't good either, and really you can't live your life following extreme standards just to please everyone. It's not your place to make other's happy only you. If it upsets them then oh well that's on them. If they don't like you then they don't have to look

    As long as you're comfortable happy and content when you look in the mirror that's all that matters in my book.

    I'd even go so far as to say that self love DOES include taking care of your body, as well as mental state and doing things that make you happy and in tune with your body. It doesn't exclude healthy routines and meals but it's a part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjoerd View Post
    Same. Eating has always been a chore. I'm over 30 but I'm still around 130 lbs. "Luckily," I'm also shorter than an average male and I can at least find slim clothes in the women section and pick stuff that are more unisex in style, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    I could have had way worse weight gain. Look up Zyprexa/olanzapine weight gain, for those that want to see how bad people have gained weight from this med. I read that it can cause on average a ten lbs weight gain, and still thought, Ďnot me.í Well, itís real. My doc said he knew people that had gained 60lbs in 2 months. I gained 10lbs in 2 months. The other 10lbs was from other similar meds. I went from 115 to 135lbs and now Iím scratching my head, like oh shit, you better go on a serious diet, then Iím starving and eating chocolate cake with a fork out of the fridge. Iím really sympathizing with over weight people hard now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarcOprahGayStr8 View Post
    It shouldn't be used as an excuse to be unhealthy but ppl naturally have different metabolism levels due to genetics. So comparing yourself to others is bad. I still think having a good body is a good goal to have for health reasons but ppl with narcissistically good bodies can be/are often narcissistic themselves. They are flawed/get in too much trouble with the law/test things they shouldn't too much etc.

    Reminds me of the time this twink waltzed in the bar and had a perfect six pack but was a huge jerk to everybody for no reason and almost everybody called him out for his rude personality. What's the fucking point, acting like that to me ruins the purpose of looking at better bodies in the first place.
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    You want me to contain my curves? Now I feel shamed…
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpin is pimpin View Post
    Do you think I’d be in better shape if I simped for myself before I simp for others?
    Unironically yeah. I know you're trolling and probably another account or something, but after awhile you get tired of laying in your own misery and playing in a continuous cycle of self sabotage and self hatred. All you need is that sort of "flow state" to just do it, make progress. Consistency is the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavender latte View Post
    Unironically yeah. I know you're trolling and probably another account or something, but after awhile you get tired of laying in your own misery and playing in a continuous cycle of self sabotage and self hatred. All you need is that sort of "flow state" to just do it, make progress. Consistency is the key.
    Unironically thanks
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    If you don't love me - how in the hell are you gonna exploit everybody else? Can I get an A-Men?

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    As a fat person I’m gonna own up to some things here on behalf of my spherical comrades and explain why some others hate fat people.

    Fat people are an eyesore, often stink the larger we get and we tax the healthcare system. Being larger makes us reliant on people, usually other family members to do basic things. Not all of us fatties are cute and jolly, some of us have terrible personalities, aggressive, domineering and prone to excess and laze psychologically as well as materially, which is what causes and perpetuates our situation. Furthermore the estrogen production increase by the fat cells in man tiddies makes us prone to have a victim mentality, so rather than hauling our quadruple-asses onto the treadmill we blame others and then also call any dissenters victim blamers. Then, we are often also proud to be fat (obviously overcompensatory) and can think that being bigger and bolder makes us superior ubermensches. The list goes on.
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    Hereís an ESI talking about body issues

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Here’s an ESI talking about body issues

    https://youtube.com/shorts/7A5Rcj003r0?feature=share
    God, I love how sincere she is I wish more people were unafraid of rigorous beauty standards like her.
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    The other day I saw a video of a woman showing her body when she was anorexic, versus her healthy body nowadays, and it was very wonderful to see her recover from that eating disorder, but I couldn’t help but feel so much absolute terror when I saw her emaciated, dangerously thin body. She had almost no body fat at all. It terrifies me that this eating disorder affects so many people. It’s so serious.

    And as rude as it sounds, every time I see a picture of an anorexic person, I have to turn away in horror. I can’t look at anorexic people without being visibly terrified for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    The other day I saw a video of a woman showing her body when she was anorexic, versus her healthy body nowadays, and it was very wonderful to see her recover from that eating disorder, but I couldn’t help but feel so much absolute terror when I saw her emaciated, dangerously thin body. She had almost no body fat at all. It terrifies me that this eating disorder affects so many people. It’s so serious.

    And as rude as it sounds, every time I see a picture of an anorexic person, I have to turn away in horror. I can’t look at anorexic people without being visibly terrified for them
    Indeed when I see very thin people, I sometimes wonder if we were in a race, which of us would get the furthest before collapsing and dying.
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