Delta Quadra and Fat People

[Clarke]

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[pasleine]

ultimately in theory any person could work to make themselves "normal", but most people revert to a state of true normalcy when they are allowed to. it's like how their body believes they should be. this could mean that they revert to a lower weight, or they could simply just stay the same, since it "just makes sense" for them to do so.
i do believe that all people are equal in value, it's just that some are harder to deal with than others.
PS to bring contrast, my gamma brother hates them, and absolutely does believe that weight is a choice, a negative one, that bothers him.

[aixelsyd]

I don't care if people are fat and some people are just that way because of thyroid issues, big boned, whatever.

No. I don't care if people are fat. I care if people are assholes.

[InterPrizeWes]

ESTJ on average is the fattest/likes to eat the most type! I'm not thin, but not heavy myself, but I think it's just a visual size distortion, but just feeling people, or rushing their magnet train through your pin ball machine, I think that is helpful.

[nifl]

valued Si - physical beauty and health are on average more important to them
valued Ne - inner motivations, potentials and perception of people beyond surface judgments are seen as more important

while the emphasis on health is greater in these quadras, the perception of fat people as 'people' is mb less negative overall.

[on a peaceful hiatus]

valued Si - physical beauty and health are on average more important to them
valued Ne - inner motivations, potentials and perception of people beyond surface judgments are seen as more important

while I do agree with many of your points and you clearly have spend a lot of time studying the theory I have to disagree with your definition of Ne. why would it be concerned with inner motivations when it is an extroverted element? it is more about finding alternatives, unorthodox solutions to existing things. influencing external objects. understanding inner motivations is more related to introverted elements like Ni, when it analyzes psychological reasons for specific behaviours for example. I would also say that Se is more about physical beauty. symmetrical face, posture, height or other external traits get judged for example. Si is more about judging a certain harmony of individuals, like is their dress appropriate for the environment, are you shoes clean? the way you smell and so on. I think due to Ni-Se, some beta NF women have the most "sex-appeal", meaning that some of them are able to draw a lot of attention to themselves, while Si valuing types look more plain, almost unerotic/asexual at first glance. they are not as mysterious.

[nifl]

@Alive
extraverted functions are concerned with objects. intuition - with potentials, immaterialities, imaginative subjects. Ne, being an extraverted function, is concerned with the objective or external, 'shared' if you will, facets of these elements. the personalities of oneself or another, their character, their potentials lies under this, just like the external and common material reality of the world is perceived through Se. Si, being introverted and thus mainly subjective, is about whether or not these material perceptions are pleasant or unpleasant, for example. Ni is about subjective imagination, mainly - other realms and fantasy worlds, the perception of time, philosophical minded, memories, spirituality etc.

it's mostly true to the classic definitions

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I saw a fat kid eating a bag of donuts last night. It was endearing and kinda brightened my day.

Yeah, usually people are just fat because they eat too much ((and the wrong kinds of foods)) and don't exercise enough- but I still don't really care. It would be boring if every person looked like a Chad or Stacy to me. I'd rather a guy be more Chad-like in his personality and demeanor ((and heart size)) then anything superficial like that. I mean, to a point of course.

[Crink]

Deltas don't care if people are fat beyond the consideration of health. I know an EII that would laugh if an overweight person made a critical remark about another person's appearance, but that's about it. Some deltas get fat because they love (LOVE) comfort, relaxation, food etc. I know an LSE-EII couple that work their assess off, spend a ton of money on high quality groceries, cook multiple times per day, and they're steadily growing larger lol. They're very happy with one another. Occasionally they'll go on diets together. Another couple (IEE -SLI) that I know are fat because they sit around eating and having interesting conversations *all day* together. They're also very happy. Everyone wants to live a long life, and deltas experience life as slices of time, they know how things slip by you and what it takes to end up fat. They don't really judge people for living how they choose as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. I have a very big cousin who really wants to be healthy, I have never insisted that she get healthy. But when she talks about going to the gym, I tell her she's doing great and keep going. She's constantly eating though. It bothers me to see that but I would never tell her to stop. If she had the self control to do that, she would do it.