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Last edited by Clarke; 03-08-2023 at 02:38 AM.
mbti is a stepping stone into the functions, socionics refines them into more of what they really are- but it's still not perfect. Socionics still isn't as realistic or as solid as attitudinal psyche. And being aware of and valuing something are two different things. People are aware of all the functions, what you value is based on what you personally value- LIEs don't value Fe but they are still paying attention to it in a mediocre way. Awareness + not valued sounds a lot like a person's role function.
The only proof you need that this isn't so:
Socionics was initially conceived, created, and developed by Lithuanian researcher Aushra Augusta in the 1970's. Aushra Augusta was an economist, sociologist, and psychologist; she was the dean of the Vilnius Pedagogical University's department of family sciences. Aushra used both Carl Jung's work on Psychological Types as well as Antoni Kepinski's theory of information metabolism in developing the foundation of socionics,and the influence of both Jung and Kepinski are obvious in the theory.
Yeah I think it's common for Fi valuers to find Fe 'suspicious' - my IEE cousin's SLI husband is very suspicious of me like that often, cuz my creative casts Super Effecive dmg against his PoLR. I would say 'vice versa' but I feel bad, cuz he feels more sensitive of me than I am of him.
Fragile and precious things- need special handling. What have I done to Delta's Souls. lol
(Fe polr?) My opinion with Fe be like: ok, you act friendly, so now it's my turn to be friendly back? No, don't push me, or I would run away, don't expect any Fe from me, I don't have it, spare me please!
I like 4 Fe from Fi creative because I don't feel the need of paying Fe back to them.
The "personality-database" website is full of misunderstandings. I think you should not refer to that website.
In the Tavistock Lectures, Jung emphasized that memory is not a part of the 4 cognitive functions. So how could Si store memoreis? If so, it not's Jungian at all.
The so-called "MBTI" theory, which is considered to be different from Socionics, is rather a stereotypical version of the Big Five theory instead of a Jungian typology theory.
To understand your type better, I suggest you to totally forget what Beebe has said. He mixed Jung's explorations on archetypes with Jung's PType theory while fully misunderstanding Jung's fundamental ideas on psychological types. Also, his descriptions are very blur and you might find that you fit into multiple descriptions if you follow his ideas.
You should definitely read Jung and Model A to understand your type.
To me the whole thing sounds like an affective issue*. Related to how you went inward with trying to get to know yourself using these typologies and thus got into your subconscious emotions and it overwhelming you, maybe. Perhaps that's what you felt like was using an unnatural set of abilities, but you can learn more emotional skills - including face reading - over time, without pushing yourself so hard - I agree with you on that - and most definitely without trying to use typology for it. This is just what I thought of reading your whole thread. Plus what I said in your type thread now about your symptoms.
*: I don't want to say affective disorder as in outright mental illness, but if your episode of "psychological stress" recurs then please, please do seek professional help instantly. Or if you feel like, not all your symptoms disappeared between episodes, again I suggest seeking help ASAP
PS. Sorry, I won't mention my suggestion again as I already noted it twice today, but I've read your whole thread here and it really had me concerned. (Fuck Socionics and MBTI too, tbh)