The Man Himself (Gulenko) Has Typed Me LSI, Feel Free to Pick My Brain

[hellohellohello]

Using this as sort of an AMA for those curious. Feel free to pick my brain.

[RBRS]

It is difficult to come up with a question. Dunno if you're informed that there's a significant quantity of typed and students of Gulenko engaging in discussions and conversations, there's little mistery to him here.

[The Reality Denialist]

You seemed to have something extra going on with Fi. Other than that it seems OK.

Anyway, my issue was:
Can a Fi base type suppress their F to T levels when they talk to a camera alone since introverted elements are internal and hard to detect (esp Fi)? In person I'd say that they can not do it. The setting was also very impersonal.

OK, I suppose Gman has a good experience basis when it comes to this.

[Nephilthoth]

Huh, who could have guessed?

[ILoveChinchillas]

To get to where you are now, did you engage more Ne or Si?

[nifl]

You seemed to have something extra going on with Fi. Other than that it seems OK.

Anyway, my issue was:
Can a Fi base type suppress their F to T levels when they talk to a camera alone since introverted elements are internal and hard to detect (esp Fi)? In person I'd say that they can not do it. The setting was also very impersonal.

OK, I suppose Gman has a good experience basis when it comes to this.

It's hard to imagine any type suppressing their strong functions enough to look like another type, especially in an impersonal setting. Your perception of some Fi there is perhaps because he's more likely to be ILI than LSI.

[The Reality Denialist]

It's hard to imagine any type suppressing their strong functions enough to look like another type, especially in an impersonal setting. Your perception of some Fi there is perhaps because he's more likely to be ILI than LSI.

No, he literally was literally talking about mafia level Fi stuff, not forever alone ILI Fi stuff but it lacked physical signs.

[myresearch]

No, he literally was literally talking about mafia level Fi stuff, not forever alone ILI Fi stuff but it lacked physical signs.

That's not mafia level of Fi, you have seen nothing

[The Reality Denialist]

That's not mafia level of Fi, you have seen nothing

OK, this didn't seem to be regular top down office delegator job.

[DEAD]

No, he literally was literally talking about mafia level Fi stuff, not forever alone ILI Fi stuff but it lacked physical signs.

Isn't the Mafia, Ti, talking about the system and hierarchy and who's who and their role in the gang?

[The Reality Denialist]

Isn't the Mafia, Ti, talking about the system and hierarchy and who's who and their role in the gang?

Gang (organization) = Ti
Mafia (family) = Fi

I think those two can intermix.

[hellohellohello]

You seemed to have something extra going on with Fi. Other than that it seems OK.

Anyway, my issue was:
Can a Fi base type suppress their F to T levels when they talk to a camera alone since introverted elements are internal and hard to detect (esp Fi)? In person I'd say that they can not do it. The setting was also very impersonal.

OK, I suppose Gman has a good experience basis when it comes to this.

Increased R, T & S are all due to Harmonizing subtype, as I have found out and come to terms with (is Harmonizing apparent now or what?!?)

[hellohellohello]

To get to where you are now, did you engage more Ne or Si?

Maybe Ne? Deciding to reach out to Gulenko (intuition of possibilities? Possibly?)

[hellohellohello]

No, he literally was literally talking about mafia level Fi stuff, not forever alone ILI Fi stuff but it lacked physical signs.

Lmao funny enough I have always had an extreme love for gangster movies. People know that about me. But what "mafia level Fi" stuff are you referring to?

[DEAD]

Gang (organization) = Ti
Mafia (family) = Fi

I think those two can intermix.

Yeah, probably why it seems to attract a lot of Beta/Gammas to it.

[RBRS]

Lmao funny enough I have always had an extreme love for gangster movies. People know that about me. But what "mafia level Fi" stuff are you referring to?

Same. Most Mafia genre movies are central Quadra if something related to the socion, including The Godfather that's not really a "mafia genre" movie.

Normalizing subtype is supposed to strengthen Ji functions, there might be a problem with the subtype if Fi is that much present.

[hellohellohello]

Same. Most Mafia genre movies are central Quadra if something related to the socion, including The Godfather that's not really a "mafia genre" movie.

Normalizing subtype is supposed to strengthen Ji functions, there might be a problem with the subtype if Fi is that much present.

See that's what I thought too at first but it's incorrect.

Normalizing subtype affects L, R, and S. (Ti, Fi, & Si)

Harmonizing subtype affects T, R, and S. (Ni, Fi, & Si)

T and R are apparently very sensitive functions.

[welcometomania]

why do you act as if SLI and LSI are worlds apart..

[nifl]

why do you act as if SLI and LSI are worlds apart..

Perceived at the surface level, they seem to be similar. In my experience, the great differences in behaviour (opposing values) become very apparent between a given type and it's quasi-identical/extinguishment when you get closer to a person. I think that the similarity between these types has been overstated, and I generally consider mirror, kindred and business to be the ''similar'' types.

[The Reality Denialist]

Lmao funny enough I have always had an extreme love for gangster movies. People know that about me. But what "mafia level Fi" stuff are you referring to?

You pointed team management and stuff. I have said that many LSIs seem to prefer more removed logistical approach.

[myresearch]

You pointed team management and stuff. I have said that many LSIs seem to prefer more removed logistical approach.

Actually lots of LSIs typed as F ego once in their typology journey, especially Fe ego and more spesifically IEI. You can find one saying it here and hopefully most people see this dude as Ti ego: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWHLLr_wgQ

So if you look at like that, you can miss your own duals in lots of cases.

@hellohellohello I also have seen that lots of LSIs think that they have poor Si again in that journey. So if you thought that way, what made you think that?

[hellohellohello]

Actually lots of LSIs typed as F ego once in their typology journey, especially Fe ego and more spesifically IEI. You can find one saying it here and hopefully most people see this dude as Ti ego: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYWHLLr_wgQ

So if you look at like that, you can miss your own duals in lots of cases.

@hellohellohello I also have seen that lots of LSIs think that they have poor Si again in that journey. So if you thought that way, what made you think that?

I definitely don't have weak Si, especially in the sense that LSIs use it:

"Takes good care of your appearance. Clothing is always neat. Neat at home and at work. He knows how to work with his hands: repair, make something for the house. It performs fine manual operations well, especially if they are related to design, decoration. Likes simple but healthy food. Differs in stability of taste and habits."

I'm pretty simple in tastes and clothing. Nothing terribly extravagant. Obviously I have those tattoos and plan on getting more, so that could be seen as abrasive, Se maybe? I at least try to make them pretty lol. Maybe some provocative t-shirts every now and then, but pretty simple overall. Also, design and decoration I tend to find myself pretty good at. I can't draw for shit, but I can utilize lines, dimensions, space, etc. to spruce things up. I come up with ideas in my head and guide people in how to actually lay them out on paper. I'd think LSIs in general would be pretty good at design due to Ti & Si being especially strong functions. You have the symmetry of Ti, and design/color/etc. of Si to make it all flow.

So, like discovering that I'm Ti-base and do that on a regular basis, same goes for Si being a strong function. It was always there, just needed to have my attention really turned to it.

[AWellArmedCat]

Using this as sort of an AMA for those curious. Feel free to pick my brain.

What did you think of his methodology, and does LSI feel appropriate to you?

[hellohellohello]

What did you think of his methodology, and does LSI feel appropriate to you?

His methodology was pretty Jungian, which I think is excellent. I think he relies a lot on his subtyping system though. I've never related to any LSI description, even his own, as they're pretty "hardy", but I think LSI-H makes the most sense in the grand scheme of things.

[Renna]

Talk about Mafia, I see alot of ENTJ bosses in fiction lol. Usually Gamma Mafia more about dark business side (like Michael in Godfather). A Beta style Mafia could focus more about the organization itself.

Beta actually value "family loyalty" more than Gamma. Gamma Fi is 1 vs 1, and "family" here is an organization.