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    What you think about his type?


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    Some kind of Beta NF, I think EIE but it's just a vibe.

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    LIE-H

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    I think that Adam Neumann is LIE. I can follow his words perfectly.

    It also happens that I founded a company and had 33% ownership after we diluted the stock to get investors, and when we got our first sale (for $1M), the investors decided to take the company in a direction different from my vision. And then the value of the company tanked.

    Sad story, but shit happens.

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    I was between EIE and LIE, I don't see Ni dom, but if someone thinks that he is vibe wise or based on what he does or says, their opinion is welcomed.

    VI, innotation wise, I don't see hear Te a lot, but the way he operates reminded me LIE over EIE.

    He has a pretty good role whether he is EIE or LIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I was between EIE and LIE, I don't see Ni dom, but if someone thinks that he is vibe wise or based on what he does or says, their opinion is welcomed.

    VI, innotation wise, I don't see hear Te a lot, but the way he operates reminded me LIE over EIE.

    He has a pretty good role whether he is EIE or LIE.
    He seems more LIE-Te than LIE-Ni. LIE-Ni guys are more flexible and are usually asking for help in subtle or overt ways. Also, LIE-Nis are better at running established companies but are far worse at starting them.

    LIE-Tes are less willing to be flexible and are more hard-assed. Notice that he walked away with a lot of Te money, and he had explanations for why this was perfectly reasonable for him to line his pockets while others get nothing. I know several LIEs exactly like this, all of them the Te-subtype.

    I’m Te-subtype myself and I tend to take the path which gives ME the most money. In turn, I try to share the wealth with the people who have helped me, usually at a level far above what they could achieve on their own, but still below what I get.

    Yo ho ho, mateys.

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    My first guess was made after about 2 min in the video. Now I watched it till min 35 and I still don't know what is or was this guy producing ! He talks a lot about money, banks, power, business stuff and relationships etc.. But what does he do ? At this point I don't know ! I had to go see his Wiki page to know about what WeWork is. Basically it's like a sort of IKEA for the workplace.

    Note that his evolution in the company he co-created is a bit similar to Steve Job (fired from his own company).
    I like his manners and his prosody even though I can tell that his communication skills are very well crafted and that he is in control of how his image is perceived . Again a bit similar to Steve Jobs. Anyway, I can see the LIE typing as a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    My first guess was made after about 2 min in the video. Now I watched it till min 35 and I still don't know what is or was this guy producing ! He talks a lot about money, banks, power, business stuff and relationships etc.. But what does he do ? At this point I don't know ! I had to go see his Wiki page to know about what WeWork is. Basically it's like a sort of IKEA for the workplace.
    Lol, he convienced bunch of investors just via talking and persuasion basically impressing them with words more than anything related to business. Hence I thought he may be EIE, if he is LIE, I still think he must have strong Fe compared to average LIE.


    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    Note that his evolution in the company he co-created is a bit similar to Steve Job (fired from his own company).
    I like his manners and his prosody even though I can tell that his communication skills are very well crafted and that he is in control of how his image is perceived . Again a bit similar to Steve Jobs. Anyway, I can see the LIE typing as a possibility.
    I type Steve Jobs as EIE. The thing that made me thought that Adam operates LIE more than EIE is that he moves money as soon as he gets it. He spent most of the investments over expansion and growth in a way that they were at loss for years rather than making any profit. Most people would look at that and may think it may not work good at all since all financial reports suggests so, but he didnt, so this seems like more of a positivist Te+/Ne-/Ni+ approach of LIE rather than negativist EIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    My first guess was made after about 2 min in the video. Now I watched it till min 35 and I still don't know what is or was this guy producing ! He talks a lot about money, banks, power, business stuff and relationships etc.. But what does he do ? At this point I don't know ! I had to go see his Wiki page to know about what WeWork is. Basically it's like a sort of IKEA for the workplace.

    Note that his evolution in the company he co-created is a bit similar to Steve Job (fired from his own company).
    I like his manners and his prosody even though I can tell that his communication skills are very well crafted and that he is in control of how his image is perceived . Again a bit similar to Steve Jobs. Anyway, I can see the LIE typing as a possibility.
    Lol. I got fired from my own company. I started out with 50% of the stock (I should have never let it get below 52%) and then we sold some stock to investors and my share diluted to 33% and then I got voted out, because they wanted to take the company in a direction that was not good and I told them so. So, out I went. No severance pay, no nothing, because I was inexperienced and hadn't prepared for that.
    They managed to wreck the company in less than two years and my stock was worth nothing.

    So, getting kicked out of the company that you created happens. It can happen if you don't retain a controlling interest in the company.

    If you need to raise money and don't want to use the banks (who does?), then you have to sell stock. You can create more shares, which dilutes the value of the present shares and pisses off your shareholders, or you can sell stock from a block that you set aside, or you can sell non-voting shares. I chose the worst route because I was ignorant. I sold some of my shares and plowed the money right back into the company. FML. I also never expected the investors to think that they knew the market better than I did. (Because they didn't, but that didn't matter. They thought they did, and they controlled more shares than I did.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Lol, he convienced bunch of investors just via talking and persuasion basically impressing them with words more than anything related to business. Hence I thought he may be EIE, if he is LIE, I still think he must have strong Fe compared to average LIE.


    I type Steve Jobs as EIE. The thing that made me thought that Adam operates LIE more than EIE is that he moves money as soon as he gets it. He spent most of the investments over expansion and growth in a way that they were at loss for years rather than making any profit. Most people would look at that and may think it may not work good at all since all financial reports suggests so, but he didnt, so this seems like more of a positivist Te+/Ne+/Ni+ approach of LIE rather than negativist EIE.
    Using debt to gain market share is a basic, required, operational method in some industries. If you aren't one of the big three in your industry, you aren't anything. Witness the way that Amazon borrowed it's way to its dominant market position by undercutting prices (selling below its true costs) for many years. You can only do that if the investors see incredible growth, because you are running a cash loss which is paid for by the investors' money. They won't keep giving you money to waste if they think you aren't going to be a lot bigger in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Using debt to gain market share is a basic, required, operational method in some industries. If you aren't one of the big three in your industry, you aren't anything. Witness the way that Amazon borrowed it's way to its dominant market position by undercutting prices (selling below its true costs) for many years. You can only do that if the investors see incredible growth, because you are running a cash loss which is paid for by the investors' money. They won't keep giving you money to waste if they think you aren't going to be a lot bigger in a few years.
    Not saying otherwise. However, his company was one of the companies that showed a highest rapid of growth, wework isnt a tech company like amazon, in fact their expenses is very high considering how spaces costs. That would not be evaluated by the best choice by investors at least not initially, but ofcourse we talk about it right now, because he made it happen. The way he runned the company makes me think he has a positivist mindset.

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