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    @Poptart For comparison, does Enneagram type 3 fit you?

    My sister is another Scorpio sun, with Saturn in her ascendant (Gemini, another air sign), so I'm curious if there's a relation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    @Poptart For comparison, does Enneagram type 3 fit you?

    My sister is another Scorpio sun, with Saturn in her ascendant (Gemini, another air sign), so I'm curious if there's a relation.
    I’m not a 3. Idk if there’s any relation

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    Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome




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    Quote Originally Posted by ariesangel View Post
    731E4537-3E1D-4DF7-8054-BBC38F387B9F.jpeg

    how the heck do I have my thing appear as an image and not an attachment?
    upload img to imgur and copy paste image link to forum with bb code works for me like [img]imagelinkd290312.com[/img]
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    astrodentist doesnt show ur lilith and it upsets me
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    astrodentist doesnt show ur lilith and it upsets me
    It does but you have to add it yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariesangel View Post

    how the heck do I have my thing appear as an image and not an attachment?
    When you're putting the link (by adding URL) you have to deselect "Retrieve remote file and reference locally".
    I'm not sure how to make it work if you uploading it from whatever device you're using
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    astrodentist doesnt show ur lilith and it upsets me
    Haha, that was actually the first sign I was looking for in everyone’s chart!
    My true Lilith is in Libra while my mean Lilith is in Scorpio. ;)

    Also thank you for that img tip! Kinda tedious, but whatever I will surrender. >:(

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    Can any of you actually interpret this stuff?

    One way is to look for every single aspect and position on an astrology website such as cafeastrology. But it's not the same as knowing to read them.

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    Alright, here it goes:


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    @VewyScawwyNawcissist, @FreelancePoliceman, @Aquamarine, it's nice to see fellow venus trine pluto people here. It's one of the cooler aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    @VewyScawwyNawcissist, @FreelancePoliceman, @Aquamarine, it's nice to see fellow venus trine pluto people here. It's one of the cooler aspects.
    How is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    Can any of you actually interpret this stuff?

    One way is to look for every single aspect and position on an astrology website such as cafeastrology. But it's not the same as knowing to read them.
    I've been studying it, yeah, though I wouldn't trust myself to do it well. Can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    How is that?
    It's what I call the "avenging angel" aspect.

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    I've been studying it, yeah, though I wouldn't trust myself to do it well. Can you?
    I can on some level. I especialize in aspects.

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    sun in Capricorn- explains my power seeking side. Let me criticize authority cuz I myself am the best authority. I have this night stick and I'm not afraid to use it. /roundhouse kicks Nurse Ratched and steals her wig Drag Queen-style
    Libra rising- ur really most like your rising sign anyway, so I'm diplomatic, fair and balanced. Sounds about right
    Scorpio moon - Jealous, possessive and intense. Ew. Hate to admit this is true but I am very scorpio-ish. Not afraid to sting ya if you cross me the wrong way.

    I fell in love with a sun-in-scorpio before for awhile, and I think it's because he kinda bubbled up my feelings naturally to the surface due to his own personality type of thing. Anyway a lot of this is just Forer Effect garbage, but enjoy nonetheless.

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    I don't know what that means.... I don't believe in this stuff but if It can help bring me some feel better, I'll take it. I like my chinese sign, It's the same as Bruce Lee one of my Heroes. I'm Dragon and Libra, like this guy :

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    I'm still new to this and have trouble articulating certain connections I've seen, but the natal charts here do seem to resonate with my impressions of people. It's uncanny!
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    no idea what any of this supposedly indicates, but i find the arrangement of these lines pleasing
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    “Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
    — James Russell Lowell
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    I don't know what time I was born, so I left that out. I'm not really an astrology person, but thought y'all might find my chart interesting
    “Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
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    My Astral Chart has disappeared for some reason (?). Here it is again in a smaller format.







     
    Interpretations - Ascendant, Medium Coeli, House rulers

    Before reading the following interpretation done by a computer it is good to note that any planet position or aspect mentioned in your horoscope may be insignificant. You should always remember the rule:

    Nothing should be evaluated separately, things should always be considered in a broader context and with regard to other planet positions and aspects of the horoscope.

    1st house1st house - Ascendant (ASC)

    Physical personality
    Ascendant (ASC) - Symbolises basic personality traits such as physical appearance, temperament, behaviour, relationship to life and the first impression the person gives.
    Ascendant in Leo (Leo ruler is Sun)

    People with Leo Ascendant need to use their creativity, authority and power. They are looking for love, admiration and applause. Some might push to the front by force and be eccentric. They should strive to become an independent and distinct person. Potential danger of these people is their pride. They must first show a good effort in order to deserve respect and admiration. Those who fail to shine may become bitter. A crucial turn is when they learn to give without expecting something in return. ... more -»

    The ruler of the Ascendant - Sun
    These people want to take control over their surroundings and they try to lead and direct. They get excited over a dream and they try to realise it. They try to increase the value of things; they want to become creators.

    The ruler of the Ascendant (Sun) in Libra
    These people try to change their environment in a fair and equitable manner and with the permission of other people. They are prudent, polite and forgiving.
    The ruler of the Ascendant (Sun) in the 3rd House
    These people have a tendency to change their place of residence, to adapt, to educate themselves or others, to move and travel. They also tend to have a complicated personality.

    Planets in the 1st House
    There is no planet.

    Ascendant aspects

    Conjunction Saturn (5°29’, Separating)
    10th house10th house - Medium Coeli (MC)
    Career, prestige and reputation
    Medium Coeli (MC) - Symbolises social status, career, reputation, honours, fame, success, authoritative personality, father.
    10th house in Taurus (Taurus ruler is Venus)
    People with Taurus on the tenth house cusp try to earn enough money to sustain the standard of living they consider suitable for them. They are the type of people who make considerable efforts to gain a prominent social status and strengthen their importance. They are reluctant to give up power they have already gained. Venus, which rules Taurus, often brings career tendencies with elements of artistic creativity. These people are interested in everything that brings joy and beauty.
    The ruler of the 10th House (Venus) in the 4th House
    Career of these people is related to family or their native land. Their career has an impact on their family life. Occupation is often related to psychology, esoterics, history or archeology.
    Planets in the 10th House
    Jupiter
    Lilith
    MC aspects
    Opposition Venus (5°03’, Applying)
    Opposition Uranus (1°03’, Separating)
    Opposition Node (2°31’, Separating)
    Interpretations - Planets in Signs, Planets in Houses
    Planets describe a certain process of what is happening - eg. Mars fights, Saturn limits, Jupiter expands..
    Sign in which the planet is located determines how the planet is manifesting itself, for example Mars may manifest itself in a way Aries would behave (vigorously and irritably) or in the manner of Taurus (more slowly, gradually and consistently)
    Houses show special areas of everyday life, in which all this takes place. Location in a house shows whether, for example Mars manifests in relationships (7th house), employment (6th house), family (4th house) or elsewhere.
    Hint:
    Planets show us what is happening;
    Signs show us how it is happening;
    Houses show us where it is happening.

    Planets:

    Sun - Self, individuality, personality
    The Sun symbolises a personal identity. It shows us areas where the person should learn to be independent, where he should fulfill his potential, differentiate himself from others and shine. The position of the Sun may tell us which profession would best suit the character of a person.

    Sun in Libra
    Perhaps to make their sign happy, people born under the sign of Libra are usually prudent, balanced and harmonious. In any case, they think before they do something. It is possible to find hot-headed individuals among Libras, but they are very rare exceptions. These people are sincere, honest and decent. They find it very hard to tolerate noisy, rude or abusive behaviour and conduct. People born under this sign have strong aesthetic sense and artistic talent; it does not matter what artistic activity they choose to do, they will be great at it. If they do not become active artists, then their good taste will be seen in everything they do. They are skilful, diligent, intelligent and adventurous. more -»

    Sun in the 3rd House
    The Sun in the third house tells us about energy that is consumed in mental processes. These people usually learn and mentally develop throughout their whole life. They will travel and study in order to become teachers, writers, or find a job in information technology. They have talent for communicating and dealing with people. They can express themselves well and they are able to stay optimistic even under unfavourable circumstances.

    Sun aspects
    Sextile Saturn (1°31’, Applying)
    Sextile Neptune (1°11’, Separating)
    Conjunction Pluto (1°15’, Separating)

    Moon - Emotions, instincts, roots, mother
    Place in the horoscope where the Moon is tells us what gives the person a sense of security, and where to find it. It describes how sensitive we are and how we instinctively interact with our surroundings. The Moon also tells us about our childhood and our experiences with our mother.
    Waxing Gibbous
    (156°07’ Moon Phase Degree)
    Consolidating gains, Expanding, Analyze, Prepare, Trust

    Moon in Pisces
    Moon in Pisces has the greatest sensitivity and perceptiveness of surroundings. The person can experience feelings of insecurity, be passive and only wait and see what happens in his life. If you engage in creative or spiritual search, you can become an artist or a mystic with great imagination. more -»

    Moon in the 8th House
    The Moon in the eighth house creates people who find the feeling of security very important. These people are extremely thrifty. They have a strong sense of responsibility towards others and they are likely to engage in a movement that will be for the general good of humanity. They are aware of social trends and aspirations. They may have the ability to get money out of other people in an unfair way. This position often indicates inheritance.
    Moon aspects

    Opposition Mercury (6°05’, Applying)
    Trine Venus (6°57’, Separating)
    Square Neptune (7°19’, Separating)
    Mercury - Thinking, communication, intellect, learning
    Mercury is the planet that brings us interest in intellectual things, about teaching and learning. It also indicates into what depth we want to study things. It gives us natural intelligence and the ability to analyse and reproduce.

    Mercury in Virgo
    People with Mercury in Virgo lose their carelessness and stop being so carefree. They are thorough and precise. The influence of earth awakens contemplation and the need to provide evidence of their findings and opinions. These people are very accurate because they are heavily influenced by their home sign, Virgo. They are renowned experts in the field they have chosen to specialise in. They are materialistic and scientific, and they have a talent for economy.

    Mercury in the 2nd House
    Mercury in the second house represents a connection with the house of personal financial affairs and property. It is a position that helps generate ideas for making money and makes people to value material things. These people are bright and smart. They have a talent for trading and for financial and business transactions. They can use it in economics, planning, sales, in writing popular literature or in another profession that requires good communication skills. These people usually have more material than intellectual values and they can also earn their living by teaching about or mediating money-making opportunities.

    Mercury aspects
    Opposition Moon (6°05’, Applying)
    Trine Jupiter (5°37’, Applying)
    Venus - Sensuality, love, harmony, pleasure
    Venus symbolises attractivity. Sign in which Venus is tells us what we are attracted to and this enables us to give or receive love and affection, beauty and happiness, values and principles. The negative side is that it represents weakness and shallowness.

    Venus in Scorpio
    People with Venus in Scorpio need to control their strong sense for what excites people - and also what gets on their nerves - because it is hard for others to resist. With such a supply of sexual tricks, they might think that they can make anyone do anything they want. On the other hand, however, it is likely that they will get caught in their own trap. Venus in Scorpio is about the Power of Love, and these people will eventually force others to do what they want, not vice versa. Their feelings of love are accompanied by a trace of desire, which means that there is something desperate and crucial in their life. They radiate strong sexual energy and they have a deep sense for the emotional state and sexuality of others.

    Venus in the 4th House
    Venus in the fourth house means that these people are the happiest in their own home, or that they would like to have an ideal home. These people have an emotional connection with their home. They love their house or flat and they try to make it nice and neat, often with real artistic talent. They are usually patriots and they feel bond with their country. They have close relationships with their parents and they benefit from these relationships.

    Venus aspects
    Trine Moon (6°57’, Separating)
    Square Saturn (2°20’, Applying)
    Conjunction Uranus (6°07’, Separating)
    Opposition MC (5°03’, Applying)

    Mars - Activity, energy, courage, assertiveness
    Mars symbolises the need to get what we want. This means our driving force which includes sex drive, initiative and courage. Mars tells us about our desires, sensuality, courage and will. It also tells us about how we are able to overcome obstacles and how active we are.

    Mars in Libra
    People with Mars in Libra are not very social. They find it hard to make a decisive move or statement without prior permission or consent of other people. They try to get what they want and synchronise it with social values and emotional demands of other people. They need to be more assertive and independent. Until they will be able to unify their needs and values with their wishes they will probably be dominated by someone with whom they want to have a sexual relationship. They attract aggressive, energetic and irritable partners.

    Mars in the 3rd House
    Mars in the third house suggests aggressive and active intellect. These people are bright and quick-witted, but they tend to make hasty decisions. They are direct and sharp. They tend to cause conflicts in their family and they often criticise the personal shortcomings of others. They are always in a hurry and they are very competitive.

    Mars aspects
    Conjunction Node (6°22’, Applying)

    Jupiter - Happiness, optimism, expansion
    Jupiter symbolises growth, expansion, laws, faith and ethics that guide it. It represents a sense for development and support, which can lead to opportunities, wealth and faith. However, if Jupiter is damaged, the person becomes immoral and extremist.

    Jupiter in Gemini
    People with Jupiter in Gemini have a talent to get to know as many aspects of life as possible. It is basically how they get to know themselves. However, they may easily get entangled in endless amusements and distractions that life offers and forget about things that truly matter. They collect as much information and knowledge as they can, and in this process they meet many people that can act as facilitators (travel, employment, services, or something more unusual). At a more intellectual level, gathering information allows them to see general trends in society as well as interests of individuals. Their most important ability is to be a well informed in one or more areas. It is possible that they identify themselves with two or more philosophies or moral codes at the same time. Jupiter in this position may mean talent for writing, success in studies (languages, medicine), the possibility of studying abroad (Jupiter = foreign countries), twins (Jupiter = children), scholarships (Jupiter gives people support), studying overseas, education in adulthood, success in journalism, medicine or travelling.

    Jupiter in the 10th House
    Jupiter in the tenth house suggests people´s prerequisites for a successful career. These people are cautious and foreseeable when they make long-term plans. They will achieve success by doing things their own way. Their moral attitudes will bring them respect and increase their influence on others.

    Jupiter aspects
    Trine Mercury (5°37’, Applying)

    Saturn - Restriction, order, maturity, time
    Saturn is our strict teacher who is able to ruthlessly examine our maturity. However, it is not only the despot, but also the archetype of the sage who uses pain as a means to get our attention on what we should focus on and what we should continue to develop.

    Saturn in Leo
    Saturn in this position tries to show its limiting and conservative nature through the joyous and generous Leo. These people need the right amount of self-esteem, they should learn to be confident without feeling superior, and respected without being too dictatorial. Other people may dislike them if they start showing others that they are better than them. However, since Saturn often represents our doubts, fears and uncertainties, it is very likely that these people will be so afraid that other people may dislike them that they will be too modest. There may be authorities in their lives, such as a parent, a partner, a school, a church, or a government that will teach them either to develop their creative abilities or just to complain about their life and destiny.

    Saturn in the 12th House
    Saturn in the twelfth house suggests work in the background, usually in a large organisation. These people usually do not achieve recognition for their abilities and results. They usually doubt their abilities and long for solitude. They are usually loners who lack self-confidence.
    Saturn aspects
    Sextile Sun (1°31’, Applying)
    Square Venus (2°20’, Applying)
    Trine Neptune (2°43’, Separating)
    Sextile Pluto (2°47’, Separating)
    Conjunction Ascendant (5°29’, Separating)

    Uranus - Originality, freedom, revolution
    Uranus is the power of awakening, which often means that there will be some disruption and change. Events under the influence of Uranus are unexpected or unpredictable, forcing us to do things in a new way and face the truth about this or that issue.

    Uranus in Scorpio
    (Note: Uranus is a slow transpersonal planet and may remain in a single sign for up to many years. The description of Uranus in Scorpio is therefore valid for the entire generation of people and is very general. The characteristic of the personality is in the description of Uranus in the 3rd house.)
    Uranus in Scorpio increases the fluctuations of emotions, providing new and fresh insights into the process of death and transformation. These people often have a revolutionary approach to sex, they are interested in psychology and they are able to bring new practices and methods into it. Perhaps the biggest advantage of this aspect is that it gives people very strong will and improves their resistance to physical suffering.

    Uranus in the 3rd House
    Uranus in the third house brings instability and variability that is reflected in thinking and communication of these people, and in their first school years. Uranium affects relationships with siblings and other relatives. Relationships with other people may be unstable. Uranus creates rebellion and stubbornness, especially in youth. These people are spontaneous thinkers who often have modern and progressive views. They have the tendency to unexpectedly go on unplanned trips and journeys.
    Uranus aspects
    Conjunction Venus (6°07’, Separating)
    Opposition MC (1°03’, Separating)
    Conjunction Node (1°28’, Separating)

    Neptune - Fantasy, illusion, spirituality, imagination
    Neptune is called the Lord of the Invisible Empire, which is a mysterious name of a mysterious planet. Perhaps we could describe it as a dimension of life that cannot be experienced by our five senses and we can only understand and perceive it in our imagination.

    Neptune in Sagittarius
    (Note: Neptune is a slow transpersonal planet and may remain in a single sign for up to many years. The description of Neptune in Sagittarius is therefore valid for the entire generation of people and is very general. The characteristic of the personality is in the description of Neptune in the 4th house.)
    People with Neptune in Sagittarius use their creative abilities to serve ideals, whether these ideals are their own or somebody´s else. They tend to serve their faith or religion. In any case, their thoughts and opinions are influenced by philosophical insights, and they are happy to help develop some religious or philosophical ideal.

    Neptune in the 4th House
    Neptune in the fourth house suggests a strong connection with the foundations of personal security, with their home life and their mother. It means powerful, subconscious and emotional bonds with home and family. The parent who is submissive in their household often has some mental abilities or is at least some way extraordinary or unusual. Sometimes there is an atmosphere of insecurity in the household that is caused by hidden difficulties. People with Neptune in the fourth house often want to live near water - by a river or lake. They may become loners or be withdrawn when they get older.
    Neptune aspects
    Sextile Sun (1°11’, Separating)
    Square Moon (7°19’, Separating)
    Trine Saturn (2°43’, Separating)
    Sextile Pluto (0°03’, Applying)

    Pluto - Transformation, regeneration, power
    Pluto is the planet of death and rebirth. It is the end of all things, it is the Judgment Day. It can give rise to obsessions or convictions. On the dark end of its spectrum it can manifest as "succumbing to the urge," or it can create an individual who has the ability to get to the core of things, destroy negative things and bring on healing and transformation.

    Pluto in Libra
    (Note: Pluto is a slow transpersonal planet and may remain in a single sign for up to many years. The description of Pluto in Libra is therefore valid for the entire generation of people and is very general. The characteristic of the personality is in the description of Pluto in the 3rd house.)
    People with Pluto in the Libra have a good sense of balance, but because Pluto is falling in this sign, it can also bring about sudden and profound changes in their family or unexpected changes in relationships etc. In general, this position brings fears and uncertainties to relationships. These people are adaptable and responsible in their relationships, but they are also unstable. Personal transformation can be accomplished by developing the ability to relate to other people.

    Pluto in the 3rd House
    Pluto in the third house suggests the possibility of interruptions in education, family relationships or other events in the childhood of these people. Pluto creates deep thinkers and allows them to understand the deeper meaning that can remain hidden when dealing with others. These people have strong, but often controversial, opinions which they will either express freely or keep silent about them. They are probably interested in complicated and profound issues that they will be studying with great interest.
    Pluto aspects
    Conjunction Sun (1°15’, Separating)
    Sextile Saturn (2°47’, Separating)
    Sextile Neptune (0°03’, Applying)

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    Lunar Nodes - North Node and South Node
    The Lunar Nodes aren’t planets, but rather astrology mathematical points, that are directly opposite each other in the chart. It is said, that your life purpose is encoded between them - in the line between North Node and South Node. The South Node indicates your comfort zone, your habitual place, while your North Node shows life lessons and what you’re striving for in this lifetime. Both Lunar Nodes are almost always retrogade.

    North Node (Mean) in Scorpio - South Node in Taurus
    North Node in Scorpio brings the conflict between spiritual and material property, between acknowledgement of transience and the desire to own something.
    These people need to accept transience and to recognize that death is a great teacher. They should not base their life on false material values and build on them. They should explore spiritual values instead. They should stop avoiding conflicts and they should not stay in comfortable sterility.
    Beware of greed and clinging to material assets that are proven and secure. Actual values lie deeper.

    North Node (Mean) in the 3rd House - South Node in the 9th House
    North Node in the third house brings the conflict between seeking objectivity and lively communication on the one hand, and clinging to a highly subjective understanding, firmly anchored opinions and commands on the other.
    These people need to learn how to express complex contexts and ideas in everyday language, how to convey spiritual thinking into practical life, transfer it in comprehensible form and show clearly the connection between the philosophical and noble knowledge and values of everyday life.
    Beware of prejudices and stubborn beliefs.
    Node (Mean) aspects
    Opposition MC (2°31’, Separating)
    Conjunction Mars (6°22’, Applying)
    Conjunction Uranus (1°28’, Separating)

    Lilith - Black Moon - Fascination and Denial
    Lilith is a fictional point - the second empty focal point of elliptical orbit of the Moon around the Earth.
    In mythology, Lilith refused to submit to Adam, rebelled against the connection between Adam and Eve, decided to escape from the world of people and made a connection with Satan.
    In astrology, Lilith symbolises either fascination or refusal of topics with which she is connected with. Both, the fascination or the rejection of the given topics, can eventually engulf the person and take him "away" from the human world.

    Lilith (Mean) in Taurus
    Evident ambiguity between pleasure and its rejection; poverty or greed without limits.
    Here Lilith emphasises the characteristics of Taurus - the relationship with land, property and nature. These people know how to treat their body and be sensual; they know how to deal with money and material things. They are able to perceive and enjoy beauty. However, they like to possess many things, which can lead to greed and obsession with collecting items, or on the contrary, to rejection of material values and decision to live in poverty.
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    Lilith (Mean) in the 10th House
    Refusing to fit into their society; inclination to protest against everything.

    Chiron - Wounded Healer, inner teacher
    Chiron is an asteroid between Saturn and Uranus. Its orbit is very unusual and represents a bridge between material and spiritual worlds.
    According to mythology, Chiron was a great healer, wise teacher and one of the immortal Centaurs. Unfortunately, he was "deadly" injured by a poisonous arrow by Heracles, his favourite disciple. He was suffering in great pain but he could not die. Finally, he gave up his immortality for the benefit of Prometheus who was also suffering, and Chiron was sent to the underworld. In the underworld Zeus had mercy for him and he raised him to the heaven.
    In astrology, Chiron symbolises our unhealable injuries and incurable trauma. However, if a person, instead of drowning in his own trauma, is able to accept the trauma and help others who are also suffering, and accept that suffering is part of life, then Chiron may be the key to wisdom, or even to some sort of "Initiation Gate".

    Chiron in Taurus
    Unhealable wound of these people may be the result of the fact that other people, their parents, teachers, colleagues, superiors etc. have been constantly belittling them, although they have had no reason to do so. It is as if they have always been lacking something and therefore cannot be regarded as full-fledged. Revolutionary social events could deprive them of property that has been in the family for generations. These people cannot seem to manage to create their own privacy. It's as if something prevents them from enjoying the little that they have. Even the accumulation of property and various rewards and prices can not heal this injury.

    Chiron in the 9th House
    These people are repeatedly forced to experience religious and ideology crisis and face doubts about the meaning of life. The world seems to them like a ship full of crazy people where no rules apply, and they are unable to find a meaningful place in it. They feel like trusting and naive outlanders, foreigners in their own country, while others seem to them invulnerable. Their injury has a name - spleen.

    Main aspects
    Sextile- Sun Sextile Saturn (1°31’, Applying)
    This harmonious aspect give these people the ability to work hard and take on responsibility at work, so they are usually very responsible. However, they often have low self-concept and tendencies to be too hard on themselves.
    Sextile- Sun Sextile Neptune (1°11’, Separating)
    This harmonious aspect gives people sentimentality, good relationships with other people and good manners. These people like to get involved in charities, they are creative and they like art and a pleasant lifestyle. They have great imagination, intuition, spirituality and a sense of harmony. However, all their activities lack order and structure (these people are just "floating" through the structure of life).

    Conjunction- Sun Conjunction Pluto (1°15’, Separating)
    This conjunction is a deeply acting aspect that may bring unexpected and significant changes. These people often try to change their personality; spiritual study and professional psychoanalysisis are great methods to use for this purpose. They have a tendency to influence others through effective manipulation at subconscious level. This conjunction is the aspect of secret and consciously concealed power. These people have a great will and desire to succeed. A paternal model plays a significant role here, but it is badly accepted because these people are autoritative and they practically do not accept any other authority, including the authority of their father.

    Opposition- Moon Opposition Mercury (6°05’, Applying)
    This aspects brings problems with memory. These people are able to understand others but they may not always be able to interpret them correctly. They may have problems in the emotional area and be inclined to gossip. They are very intelligent but they often use their intelligence to deceit people by lying. They even tend to deceive themselves and they often start believing their "truths" themselves.

    Trine- Moon Trine Venus (6°57’, Separating)
    This harmonious aspect gives people balanced temperament, charming manners and usually also good looks. Social success is almost guaranteed. These people have creative abilities and they need to create a pleasant home environment.

    Square- Moon Square Neptune (7°19’, Separating)
    This aspect influences people in a similar way conjunction does but not as strongly. This aspect gives people the need to search for something transcendental, and this is often the reason why these people tend to be religious or join various esoteric movements. These people tend to be a bit confused, chaotic and have unrealistic desires. This aspects gives them the ability to perceive deep mental processes and difficulties of human psyche. It's a great aspect for psychologists, but sometimes these people may experience difficulties coping with the depths of human psyche.

    Trine- Mercury Trine Jupiter (5°37’, Applying)
    This harmonious aspect brings optimism, kindness and openness. These people are often great philosophers. However, they like to satisfy their mental interests even if they do not have the money for it. They like to travel and they do not stay long in one place.

    Square- Venus Square Saturn (2°20’, Applying)
    People with this aspect are responsible, reserved and hesitant. They also have restraints that are often the result of poor parenting or fear of other authorities. This also causes fear of loss - they are afraid to lose both their property and their loved ones. These people often submit their feelings to practicality (typical manifestation of this is getting married for security). They subconsciously fear unemployment and poverty.

    Conjunction- Venus Conjunction Uranus (6°07’, Separating)
    This conjunction causes considerable emotional independence, which often becomes a priority need. These people do not like commitments and they often hide their true feelings. If they feel that their independence is threatened, they become cold and distant. They often leave a relationship without an evident cause. They need a feeling of freedom in any relationship. If they feel free they can be faithful and pleasant. They are creative and interested in technologies. They are also artistic and they like modern art.

    Trine- Saturn Trine Neptune (2°43’, Separating)
    These people use their dreams and fantasies as the basis for their practical activities. However, their views are often conservative. They systematically and harmoniously progress in their spiritual growth.

    Sextile- Saturn Sextile Pluto (2°47’, Separating)
    This harmonious aspect gives people strong-mindedness, ambitions and desire to meet the needs of their I. The power of Saturn is positively enhanced by Pluto's energy. It is a fusion of responsibility with power and intensity.

    Sextile- Neptune Sextile Pluto (0°03’, Applying)
    This harmonious aspect is long-lasting and it affects peace-making attitudes. In connection with other aspects it further enhances peace-building and transformative actions on global scale.

    Other aspects
    Conjunction - Ascendant Conjunction Saturn (5°29’, Separating)
    The positive thing about this aspect is that these people are prudent and honest. The negative side of this aspect is that they can feel obstructions and difficulties in gaining popularity among people. They also get tired easily and they may suffer from frequent colds and attacks of rheumatism.

    Opposition - MC Opposition Venus (5°03’, Applying)
    The positive thing about this aspect is that these people are popular at work. The negative side of this aspect is that they tend to be jealous and dissatisfied in their work environment.
    Opposition - MC Opposition Uranus (1°03’, Separating)
    The positive thing about this aspect is that it gives people skilful and original behaviour that helps them achieve their goals. The negative side of this aspect is that it may cause bouts of rebellion that can be responsible for changes in their social status.

    Opposition - MC Opposition Node (2°31’, Separating)
    Interpretation is not available.

    Conjunction - Node Conjunction Mars (6°22’, Applying)
    The positive thing about this aspect is that it gives people vigour and determination that help them achieve their goals. They can fight with passion for what is important to them.
    The negative side of this aspect is that it can cause great inner tension and frustration, because the fighting spirit and the desire to conquer can distract these people from the focal point if their life instead of pulling them towards it. There is a danger that they will create artificial image of their enemy as a result of suppressed aggression. The behaviour of these people is often inappropriate and their responses may be exaggerated.

    Conjunction - Node Conjunction Uranus (1°28’, Separating)
    The positive thing about this aspect is that it gives people desire to search for new and original ways to deal with their life challenges. The development of their individuality is in harmony with the focal point of their life.
    The negative side of this aspect is that these people want to live the way they like and according to their own rules. They feel a constant painful gap between their need for independence and freedom and the challenges they face in their lives. It is very difficult for them to concentrate on what is really important.
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    I challenge you all to find any significant, non-barnum, essential trait that correlates with reality from this person's birth chart (you won't, because astrology doesn't work).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBRS View Post
    I challenge you all to find any significant, non-barnum, essential trait that correlates with reality from this person's birth chart (you won't, because astrology doesn't work).

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    Don't know what you mean by "essential" but people who have Mars within 30 degrees of the ascendant are significantly more often redheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Don't know what you mean by "essential" but people who have Mars within 30 degrees of the ascendant are significantly more often redheads.
    Does not correlate with reality in this case

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBRS View Post
    Failed correlation... next one?
    Failed? It's been replicated a few times.

    But ok...Stock market returns are lower on days on or around the full moon than on days on or around the new moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Could be due to psychological effects (investors using astrology as a secondary source to guide their decision making for example)

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    Astrologer Kevin Burk notes that the moon is in its detriment in Scorpio. That means it's tough to respond with Scorpio intensity in everyday life. It frightens people, and Scorpio Moons instinctively know that, and bottle up their feelings.

    Writes Burk (in Understanding the Birth Chart): "If they are not able to express their feelings, the emotional blocks will manifest in their physical bodies, and they will get physically ill—most frequently in the form of stomach discomfort (the moon rules the stomach).
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    My birth chart is dumb.
    It say I'm competitive, self-centered, dominant, practical, scientificaly minded, blunt but subtle, servile, tactful, head-in-the-cloud, selfless, artsy, meek... It's just a bunch of contradictions.
    I'm also supposed to be very, very interested in music. I'm not.

    This chart maker gives a long explaination of each little thing: https://astro.cafeastrology.com/natal.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by adage View Post
    My birth chart is dumb.
    It say I'm competitive, self-centered, dominant, practical, scientificaly minded, blunt but subtle, servile, tactful, head-in-the-cloud, selfless, artsy, meek... It's just a bunch of contradictions.
    so are people
    what aspect is that?
    I'm also supposed to be very, very interested in music. I'm not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudo View Post

    no idea what any of this supposedly indicates, but i find the arrangement of these lines pleasing
    Scorpio stellium..
    I am in my head; not society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    Taurus stellium..
    I am in my head; not society.

    Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am.​ Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).


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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Usually when you map things together it may reveal indirect relationships. Like eating ice cream and drowning. Astrology is no different. ADHD cases and signs are correlated due to year based classification (later born in the same year will receive more ADHD diagnosis). Same applies to sport achievements. So I'd say that there is a good chance that some personality traits will correlate with signs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    so are people
    Yep, but not everyone gets it spelt out in their charts, lol. I'm so speshul. I have of each sign in my chart, it's all over the place.
    what aspect is that?
    Trine moon-neptune
    "...has a natural affinity to music. While everyone enjoys music, people with Moon in harmonious aspect to Neptune respond to music as a vehicle to heal, relax, and to uplift the soul..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Usually when you map things together it may reveal indirect relationships. Like eating ice cream and drowning. Astrology is no different. ADHD cases and signs are correlated due to year based classification (later born in the same year will receive more ADHD diagnosis). Same applies to sport achievements. So I'd say that there is a good chance that some personality traits will correlate with signs.
    Oh sure. But that's different from saying the correlation doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Astrology is often pretty abstract, which you can use to say to claim it's vague enough to be applicable to anyone. I wouldn't, though. Done correctly, a chart interpretation should be specific enough to the individual that an individual should be able to firmly confirm or deny it. If you're cynical, you can claim the astrologer is "hot-reading" the client when choosing which aspects to play up or down; in other words the complexity of astrology permits this kind of thing (incidentally, if this is how astrology "works," I would argue there's still a lot of value to it, in that it promotes introspection, development of a strong self-identity, consideration of the future, etc). Still, underneath this complexity, there are definite rules and associations. Moon-Neptune trine meaning a love of music is not one of them so far as I'm aware. The problem with pop astrology sites is the same with typology; people just make stuff up in order to have an article they can place ads on.

    I'm personally hesitant to associate too much import to the planets beyond Saturn for various reasons. But if you want to take this aspect into account, Neptune is usually associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces, also the 12th house, and therefore things like dreams, dreaminess, fantasy, mysticism, surrender (particularly egoic control), compassion, and in its worse aspects narcissism, delusion, deception, escapism, confusion, altered states of perception. I don't know of any other resources to consult, but my own (pretty amateur) understanding of a trine with the moon would mean a disposition toward emotional sensitivity, empathy with others, a strong imagination, and an indication that these qualities feel more like strengths than something that pains or stresses you. I realize this is kind of vague, contradicting what I just said, but Neptune is kind of a vague planet, and isolated aspects like this are too little to do much else with. More experienced astrologers might have more to add.
    What do you think about tropical vs sidereal charts?
    If anyone wonders, in tropical the first sign starts the first day of spring and so on. Sidereal is following the constellations which are moving and don't give a darn about our seasons.

    My tropical chart is as I described above, jagged back and forth between two extremes, by the time I reach jupiter, I'm generaly angry when I try to read it. Sidereal's all right, it's contradictory-ish still but doesn't sound like it's describing 2 persons who probably can't stand each other.
    Either way, it's true there's so many different interpretations that go around everywhere, even in books by experts, that it gets annoying fast. I guess the best way is to go back to the basic and build from there. Kind of like you did.

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