Where do these creatures exist? And how might I make myself available to them?
Where do these creatures exist? And how might I make myself available to them?
Probably working in construction or some business field or doing extreme sport. Go to a self defense course or to a mainstream disco.
Going to places is too hard.
@Adam Strange
Is this really how it's supposed to be?
I'd like to think not, but you seem pretty introverted.
If you are IEI-Ni, then you might have more trouble getting out of the house than an IEI-Fe, but if you are going to meet an SLE-Se, then you're going to have to go where they are. And that means going to some place where there's a ton of Se going on.
I've seen female SLEs playing college sports a lot, and some are working in food service, although there seem to be fewer of them there. Aside from that, they seem to vanish from my world, so I don't have many suggestions.
That's why I suggested a broker. Someone who can form a bridge between two people who are active in very different areas.
You might ask ILI @crazymaisy for advice. She married an SEE Dual.
It's okay, I can figure it out. My energy is extremely weird in that on some days I get a random burst of 'FUCK YEAH I CAN DO ANYTHING, KILL PEOPLE AND SHIT, HAHAHA I'm UNSTOPABLE'- and then one minute after that it's back to contemplation and dream mode.
I mean I can 'do stuff' but it really better be in my interest in order to ''''do stuff''''. Menial labour tasks are wretched and horrid and I hate them oh so much. (I had to do a lot of housework) And I don't care what anyone says because menial labour is something which the classical athenian people looked down on (and it's something I hate doin!) However I do appreciate people who know how to work with their hands because that is basically my entire family. I appreciate labourers while thoroughly acknowledging the task of a labourer is not one for me. Everyone I know has commented on this deficiency of mine, that I supposedly have two left hands and what not. Perhaps it is true. So it goes both ways.
Yes, I am super introverted, but I am also super crazy (but in a good way). Meaning, I can always match your level, or at least try to. Meaning I would never let myself get bullied, but I never really go out much either.
It's odd! I just need to go outside and get comfortable I guess! I can go to events! I appreciate the offer @Adam Strange but I am not interested in online relationships as I don't believe long distance ones will ever work out. Also, I am not THAT socially retarded! In fact I think I'm above average! But I just really have trouble breaking into new groups. Never feel as though I belong anywhere.
recently occured to me some of the males may be at those pull up bar gardens
if u strut around and just watch them without doing anything u might get some disgusted glances
SLE women go shopping with girlfriends do some kind of sport, party, men and women both tend to wrok something with food but idfk how much they'd appreciate an introvert creeping on them while they're trying to wrok
i guess if u are mysterious but nice and kinda dignified with that, u start coming some times u can start getting their attention somewhat and build a reputation
they often like art and performances
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
HELLO??? COME BACK!!!!
i'm afraid it will hurt like hell, i am afraid of screaming and i am afraid of crying, i am afraid of forgetting but i'm not afraid of dying.
Thanks @Adam Strange .... I can suggest ideas to get more ideas from.
You want to find an SLE with a similar worldview: religion or sports or some activity that you are OK with just to push out and find someone good for you, a Dual.
I found mine at church, he was with a "friend" someone me and my best friend hung out with sometimes, he (the "friend") was a weirdo security guard, safe for us. My SEE was new there and so our "friend" introduced him to us. Nothing much then.
Where was he in the ensuing weeks? Young Adult sports night was the best spot for finding any new young people. He was there. My best friend and I got to know him better. At one point my best friend was going to move to another apartment and I assigned SEE to help us. Very forward of me. By the end of that move, we decided to watch a movie, so me and SEE went to Albertson's to find a video to rent (yes, VHS!) We had a great time picking out a movie, I have no idea what we picked. We had fun. By the next week I knew I'd marry him. I couldn't live without him.
SLE are good at sports, so it's similar to SEE's ... just find a sport that you can stand and you can find someone sooner than later.
My SEE was into playing Softball, had a team he was on from work. Eventually that became my hobby, going to the games and wrestling the scorekeeping away from the guy that was doing it.I made my place in his life, just had to get him to come to the realization I was forever.
We first met in the very beginning of December, we were steady by the end of January, Engaged in June and got married third week of August. 30th Anniversary this year.
So any kind of sports in the community could be where you'd find a SLE, maybe at a church. My favorite ways to find likeminded worldview people, which is the best bet for duality to work most easily.
It's not important, the timing, it's just "keep at it" to form a good relationship that can last.
I have a SLE son, he's working a construction job. FWIW
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
HELLO??? COME BACK!!!!
i'm afraid it will hurt like hell, i am afraid of screaming and i am afraid of crying, i am afraid of forgetting but i'm not afraid of dying.
#bossbitch
it depends I think, some of them are really getting their 1D Ni dual seeking function a lot more than others... one of my SLE friends likes to stay in a lot and consumes art made by IEIs. Idk when she 'goes out' she just does really normal and basic stuff like shop for groceries or get gas in her car or.... lol. "doing things" isn't very exciting for many people, so it's more about finding people you're comfortable with and gel with. She also has a criminal record so the 'bad boy SLE' stereotype isn't just for the males- but she was also really caring and protective and helpful towards me... the people that are supposed to protect us the most in society, I feel the most violated and abused by them. Goddamn LSE lawmakers.
my gamma sister pressures me to go to the gym, I see quite a few of them there- but last time I went, I got supervised by a goddamn LIE male who told me I wasn't using the machine the right way and it kind of annoyed me lol so ever since that happened, I haven't been to the gym very often.
Trust ur 4D Fi - if you don't feel comfortable or safe with a person you don't have to give them your time or energy. As adults we get to choose our own families for the most part and it's a beautiful thing. Be unapologetically yourself and boatloads of SLE will come, so much you won't know what to do with them. You said you don't get bullied, risk being bullied imo- because a true SLE loves tanking and protecting IEIs. Pain is more trouble than love is worth, but only until people get so lonely they can't stand it- so instead they then "must risk their heart for love to find them."
I've known SLE women in my life, IEI men don't seem to be their type.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Sucking my dick, dude. True dat!
I got a job at the German version of Home Depot.![]()
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I'm a female SLE-Ti myself.
I have not a strained idea of where we exist, these types often are from the fields of law or the fields of music if that's what we are talking about.
However you will most likely find one into the martial arts, in the gym, shopping, even in a small group band with friends, but I bet you can spot a SLE when you see one so don't worry much about "going to the right places".
Anyway a clearer list:
- Martial arts, gym or any other places related to self-defense and physical power.
- Shopping because we like the good stuff.
- Between a small group or band.
- Music, Law, Medicine (Fields)
Stuff we might be doing out there:
- In a commotion, who seems to be the one reacting stronger yet with their head set?
- More likely to hyperfixate on the activity or working out seeming to not be bothered by anything else.
- Guiding somebody, probably.
- Not something we do but most of us have this angry and gloomy, intense look.
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SLE woman pussy are everywhere. It’s basically like asking a fish what water smells like. I can’t answer that because the whole world smells like SLE woman pussy, it’s just so prevalent everywhere.
I'm acquainted with two SLE women a the moment. One of them (Ti subtype) is a lawyer in the legal department of the national mint here and her hobby is macrame knitting. The other (Se subtype) is a certified accountant and she's is very proud of her vegetable garden and lemon trees. The first one is more guarded and the accountant seems warmer, somehow.
I am also distantly in touch other females I think are SLEs. One of them is a police officer and the other (Ti sub) is a family lawyer.
So, law and order and gyms (?) seem a good place to start the search.
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Unsure where you all are, but SLE women abound in academia (at all levels). Cannot keep them off me.
all sles are bad
dont @ me
Universities are generally full of intuitives who are mainly interested in theoretical knowledge. Sensing types aim to aquire practical, hands-on skills that make money or give pragmatic real world benefits. They don't study for years without income
it is. sensors, primarily at higher levels of academia, are in the minority. they're not 'rare', but intuitives are more common there - think about the basic implications of the theory. in the higher levels of the humanities sensory logicians are especially uncommon.
I think it depends on 1) the model of society and 2) the social class. There are sensors esp SLE and LSE at the top of giant corporations and multinationals. A society where capitalism is king and the market is free LIE, SLE, LSE , SLI and LSI can be at the top and thus a higher level. In a Monarchy Sensors can be at the top just by birth right. In academia as I said before sensor of wealthy families can also get to higher levels. Academic success is NTR. Institutions like Harvard and Yale Universities are full of sensors. A lot President of USA are sensors, I think that's what we can call the higher level. Anyway, That's just my humble opinion.![]()
PS. Humanities ? A lot of Great authors are sensors (they even have socionics types named after them like Hugo and Dumas ). Okay they're not STs but sensors nonetheless!
I think N types are a bit rarer than S types, and so N types are probably overrepresented in academia, but I'm not sure they're the majority, even in humanities. History departments are filled with Delta ST. And more intellectual Beta ST like "theoretical" stuff a surprising amount, even if they're dogmatic about it. Lenin I think is the most famous example. I went to a Catholic university, and most theologians there seemed Beta ST to me.Originally Posted by nifl;[URL="tel:1542125"
Now you're using majority/minority language, which I purposefully did not touch. Sensors do abound in academia at all levels, regardless of how big/small their majority/minority is.
The best students bar-none at my grad school are SLE's. 4 out of the 5 people at the top of my class with the prized connections and opportunities are SLEs, and they make it look easy.
I think people here do not type by theoretical knowledge. You guys type by imagination which stands in complete contrast to the theory of what sensing/intuition is. @nifl knows the theory.
I like @nifl I find his posts interesting and I'm pretty attentive to his rationale. It's well articulated.