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    The value of sociodiagnostics cannot be underestimated by the future creators of artificial intelligence. They will sooner or later be forced to take note of the fact that there are sixteen varieties of intelligent systems. Having learned to algorithmize the left hemispheric psychological functions - logic and sensory - the designers of artificial intelligence run the risk of stumbling over the problem of right hemisphere functions - emotions and intuition, without which a full-fledged thought process is impossible. The success of such interdisciplinary projects, no doubt, directly depends on the ability to diagnose the types of reflexive (self-aware) systems and predict their communicative dynamics.

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    Research professor Kate Crawford recently wrote a piece for Nature saying the pandemic is being used as a pretext to push unproven artificial-intelligence tools into workplaces and schools.She is concerned by emotion-recognition software being used to monitor workers and children remotely.
    Her example is the system named 4 Little Trees being used at True Light College in Hong Kong to scrutinise each child’s facial expressions through their computer’s cameras. The program claims it can assess children’s emotions while they do classwork.
    'It maps facial features to assign each pupil’s emotional state into a category such as happiness, sadness, anger, disgust, surprise and fear. It also gauges ‘motivation’ and forecasts grades.'

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    What do you think of the use of AI and facial expression recognition software used to diagnose personality type?
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    I think DarkAngelFireWolf69 has it already in his brain.
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    Whatever AI exists will become evil. That's just how everything always goes. That means DarkAngelFireWolf69 is evil. <-- I don't believe in that result at this time.
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    I think getting the right data would be hard because you'd have to watch a person's face all the time. Maybe when we get robotic butlers or lease a bionic eye in exchange for the data that comes off it.

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    The AI I have is so bad, it makes me angry often. Google Mini is S-T-U-P-I-D!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyLurking View Post
    What do you think of the use of AI and facial expression recognition software used to diagnose personality type?
    It should be possible if Artificial Idiot technology allows to notice emotional states/patterns.
    Face recognition by computers has achievements to distinguish one people from other. Far from perfect but practically useful.

    There is a public example of yandex image search engine. It's not most advanced as should work fast enough. But when it offers similar by face people - it sometimes points on people with similar nonverbal emotional expressions! This arises a chance to notice other people with same type. I suspect it takes into account more traits than static face proportions, and intentionally or not - emotional expressions seems are analized too.
    There are researches to use computer analysis to understand emotional states of people. There should be a possibility to adopt this to find patterns related to nonverbal behavior of different Jung types. It just needs correct examples of types to be studed for an approximation. How correct it can be with todat technology I do not know, but principle possibility exists.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Hope it gets made and everyone gets typed and added to a database.

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    Btw, your first quote is interesting: I think the right frontal lobe holds +Fi/-Fe and +Ne, the left one -Te/+Ti and +Se.The pineal and right temporal lobe holds -Ne/+Ni, left temporal lobe -Ni, Right parietal lobe -Fi/+Fe, left parietal lobe +Te/-Ti, cerebellum -Si, and occipital lobe -Se/+Si. I could be wrong though.

    Btw, some info that might be interesting: I once had a CT scan done, and it seems I have a strange brain pattern in my temporal lobes, like as if they had more surface area (wrinkles of grey matter) than normal.

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    20 years from now they utilize AI to categorize schoolchildren by sociotype and that determines the nature and degree of education, the job opportunities they get, possibly the people they get to marry. Sounds great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toro View Post
    20 years from now they utilize AI to categorize schoolchildren by sociotype and that determines the nature and degree of education, the job opportunities they get, possibly the people they get to marry. Sounds great!
    Listen, everyone denies it, but we all know we'd be better off if we lived in a pod-based caste system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    Hope it gets made and everyone gets typed and added to a database.
    I already imagine people discriminating each other based on sociotype in addition to skin colour. O Brave New World, that has such people in it!

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