Doja Cat
I think Doja is SEI, or at least alpha SF.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
SEI
I could see SEI. @Tallmo?
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
Maybe SEI-C. But she is annoying. Too fake. But maybe she is different when cameras are off.
I think her style and background is so different from mine that I have trouble typing her.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I love doja! she is so cute and quirky! Alpha Sf but I can also see Gamma SF.
Originally Posted by Rusal
Doja Cat has a lot of the mannerisms of my IEI-Fe cousin. Not saying she's IEI, but she and my cousin overlap a lot.
My opinion is that all of our combined attempts in the forum to type famous people brings our success rate to 50% and that's being optimistic lol. That said, from the little I've seen of her do and say in the video that I posted and that you just quoted, I must say I have to strain myself to picture a scene where she's having a conversation with an SLE and dualizing.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
Yeah, @Rusal, my female cousin married a male IEI who later decided he was gay. I've pointed her at SLEs, and the best that she will say about them is that they seem to have accomplished a lot.
Not everyone wants a Dual.
Of course, some people want to jump out of airplanes, too.
In my cursory examination of the field, IEIs and LIIs often marry Identicals because they frequently hate their Duals. Doja Cat looks to me like a woman who is very self-soothing. I can't see her with an SLE, either. Still, she's channeling my IEI cousin. My cousin also has that exact same smile that Doja Cat has in the image of the video I quoted. I see that smile as being weird and screwed up in some way that I can't really identify, and I've never seen anyone else with that exact smile.
When Doja Cat said that she had no friends, I was watching my cousin speak. My cousin knows absolutely everyone and she has no close friends. None.
But I definitely agree with you about the success rate of public sociotyping.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 11-30-2021 at 06:07 AM.
Now when you say it, she also reminds me of my IEI cousin. Although my cousin is very different.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I second the IEI typing although SEI remains possible!
SEI? Hahaha are you guys insane? Similar to ashnikko (or however the idiot name is spelled), she's as SEE as it gets. Even the MBTI typists are better typists on average than people in this forum (and generally speaking among Socionics circles) are.
I AM YOUR HOLY TOTEM
I AM YOUR SICK TABOO
RADICAL AND RADIANT
I'M YOUR NIGHTMARE COMING TRUE
I AM YOUR WORST ENEMY
I AM YOUR DEAREST FRIEND
MALIGNANTLY MALEVOLENT
I AM OF DIVINE DESCENT
I AM YOUR UNCONSCIOUSNESS
I AM UNRESTRAINED EXCESS
METAMORPHIC RESTLESSNESS
I'M YOUR UNEXPECTEDNESS
I AM YOUR APOCALYPSESTRAY BULLET
I AM YOUR BELIEF UNWROUGHT
MONOLITHIC JUGGERNAUT
FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE
STRAY BULLET
READY OR NOT
I'M THE ILLEGITIMATE SON OF GOD
SZA SEI
Cardi SEE
Hmm, unrelated but SZA could be SEI.
Doja Cat is not an introvert, it is apparent in her style of communication; expressive emotions and open gesturing while talking. Also it can be determined that she is irrational, since most in the thread have already noticed irrationality, there's no point in explaining why.
I think she is SEE-C, eccentric SEE, pseudo-IEE.
Now I'm more interested in knowing her type since we have some similarities in facial features, I did not check her physical movements much during the dialogue in the video
Maybe I'll do this when I go back home
Souls know their way back home
It looks like I'm so obsessed with visual typing these days
Souls know their way back home
ESE
SEI
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
ti polr
^yup
reminds me a lot of SEE females I know. I see SEEs do that a lot- you say something they don't like, they just kinda look at you bitchy for a second but then will still be polite. They are really manipulative with their creative Fi and won't go in for the attack unless they are certain it makes them look good. IRL I mean, internet gives you that anonymity thing. I don't think she had good chemistry with that interviewer at all because he seemed like a nerdy alpha boy. That was kinda awkward and quadra clashing imo.
I saw her with this ILI boy once - she seemed REALLY happy to be with him. Or it's also possible I guess she's SEI and the guy was LII. I didn't think too deeply about it. She likes Gamma Worldliness too much for me to think she's Alpha though. So many celebrities are Gamma lol.
favorite part about her is when she said 'whole world wanna be us' in Saweetie best friend song. lol.
doja is SX/SO for sure!
and her public image is very, one day she presents this artistic archetype, the other, coming up with the complete opposite idea, and playfully, with a vengeance
her new video also displays a lot of intuition, this is surrealism, she directed it
doja's strong point is also performing for sure... dunno how that translates to socionics, pronouncedand
?
in any case, 1Dsounds much like her
+ a wild mix of enneagram 4w3, 6w7/7w6 and 8 influences, lady gaga-esque
Last edited by Chae; 09-13-2023 at 08:40 AM.
IEI
xEE
https://rollingstoneindia.com/doja-c...you-read-this/
One thing she says she could do without: being interviewed. Despite her bombastic tantric-sex alien persona, those in her circle say she’s an introvert. In person, she is polite yet circumspect.
https://www.thefader.com/2019/09/19/...pink-interview
Before she gained enough confidence to share her music on the internet, Doja Cat began experimenting in her bedroom. “I think I wanted to sing, but I just couldn’t because I was so shy,” she says. “I didn’t really know how to begin that other than like, singing in my room, locking the door, and trying to sing kind of quietly.
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
In terms of Socionics, I think she's SEE. In terms of PY, I'd say EFVL
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