Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito

[aixelsyd]

@aixelsyd Have you watched the police cam footage from the domestic violence incident?

I saw some if it, yeah where she was crying. I felt bad because they are both young with unrealistic expectations. She quit her job to do this. He was apparently downing her on some of her work for the vlog and neither seemed to have planned ahead for this or had reasonable expectations. I mean, a year ago, my wife and I picked up our RV which was getting fixed in Kansas and we drove it back home to FL because it was fixed enough to drive and that trip we got on each other's nerves because of my poor planning (I was trying to work while on the road but the outlets in the RV didn't work and the shocks on the RV were really shot so the thing was a super bumpy ride to where our dogs were freaking out). But I know from other experiences how tough a road trip can be and God forbid you don't have money because it is expensive.

I think what bothers me the most, aside from taking her van and not saying shit to her parents who are worried sick, is that he most likely was the one editing her IG posts and seemingly fabricating shit. Something about that just really pisses me off. I mean what is the point? Just a very strange set of priorities.

But what were your thoughts on the video? As said, I only saw parts of it.

[Poptart]

I saw some if it, yeah where she was crying. I felt bad because they are both young with unrealistic expectations. She quit her job to do this. He was apparently downing her on some of her work for the vlog and neither seemed to have planned ahead for this or had reasonable expectations. I mean, a year ago, my wife and I picked up our RV which was getting fixed in Kansas and we drove it back home to FL because it was fixed enough to drive and that trip we got on each other's nerves because of my poor planning (I was trying to work while on the road but the outlets in the RV didn't work and the shocks on the RV were really shot so the thing was a super bumpy ride to where our dogs were freaking out). But I know from other experiences how tough a road trip can be and God forbid you don't have money because it is expensive.

I think what bothers me the most, aside from taking her van and not saying shit to her parents who are worried sick, is that he most likely was the one editing her IG posts and seemingly fabricating shit. Something about that just really pisses me off. I mean what is the point? Just a very strange set of priorities.

But what were your thoughts on the video? As said, I only saw parts of it.

I fast forwarded through some parts but this is my understanding of what happened:
- Gabby spent the morning working on her blog. She says BG is unsupportive and doesn’t think she can do it.
- BG gets dirt in the van while Gabby is trying to clean.
- Gabby, who claims to have OCD, is triggered. Fight ensues.
- BG locks Gabby out of the van with no food/water. Its August, and they’re in the desert. He claims he locked her out to get her to calm down.
- Gabby gets in the van and attacks BG by slapping him and scratching his face. She tells the police that she did this to get him to stop telling her to calm down.
- BG pushes her away in self defense.

Takeaways:
- Until more information comes out, I’m holding off judgement on BG. I would be surprised if he murdered her in cold blood.
- BG doesn’t want Gabby charged with DV, which suggests that he’s looking out for her in some respect. When the cops ask him the van swerved when they pulled Gabby and BG over, BG claims that Gabby pulled the steering wheel. When the cops ask Gabby the same question, she says that she was hitting his arm. I think this discrepancy also shows that BG is trying to minimize Gabby’s violence towards him (probably to protect her from getting arrested).
- I think the cops did a good job in deescalating the situation and separating the two for the night.
- I feel torn on BG staying silent. I think her parents deserve answers, but at the same time we don’t know what happened in the desert. The cops will likely pin her death on him. This kind of situation is why 5th Amendment exists. He’s acting on the advice of his lawyers.
- Both looked really tired like they haven’t been sleeping well.
- Telling someone to calm down NEVER works lol.
- I think Gabby saw their trip as a business venture, and BG saw it more as a lifestyle.
- Mostly I just feel sad for both of them. I don’t want to judge them too harshly for the cringey vlog or their poor planning because they’re both so young and inexperienced.
- Gabby is uncomfortable driving her own van. If you’re going to live the van life, you should be comfortable driving a van.
- Living in a van during the months of July and August is a really bad idea if you’re going to the desert.
- Heat + lack of sleep + thirst/hunger + stuck in a van with another person + boredom is a recipe for disaster.
- If they were duals, this wouldn’t have happened (jk)

[Adam Strange]

I fast forwarded through some parts but this is my understanding of what happened:
- Gabby spent the morning working on her blog. She says BG is unsupportive and doesn’t think she can do it.
- BG gets dirt in the van while Gabby is trying to clean.
- Gabby, who claims to have OCD, is triggered. Fight ensues.
- BG locks Gabby out of the van with no food/water. Its August, and they’re in the desert. He claims he locked her out to get her to calm down.
- Gabby gets in the van and attacks BG by slapping him and scratching his face. She tells the police that she did this to get him to stop telling her to calm down.
- BG pushes her away in self defense.

Takeaways:
- Until more information comes out, I’m holding off judgement on BG. I would be surprised if he murdered her in cold blood.
- BG doesn’t want Gabby charged with DV, which suggests that he’s looking out for her in some respect. When the cops ask him the van swerved when they pulled Gabby and BG over, BG claims that Gabby pulled the steering wheel. When the cops ask Gabby the same question, she says that she was hitting his arm. I think this discrepancy also shows that BG is trying to minimize Gabby’s violence towards him (probably to protect her from getting arrested).
- I think the cops did a good job in deescalating the situation and separating the two for the night.
- I feel torn on BG staying silent. I think her parents deserve answers, but at the same time we don’t know what happened in the desert. The cops will likely pin her death on him. This kind of situation is why 5th Amendment exists. He’s acting on the advice of his lawyers.
- Both looked really tired like they haven’t been sleeping well.
- Telling someone to calm down NEVER works lol.
- I think Gabby saw their trip as a business venture, and BG saw it more as a lifestyle.
- Mostly I just feel sad for both of them. I don’t want to judge them too harshly for the cringey vlog or their poor planning because they’re both so young and inexperienced.
- Gabby is uncomfortable driving her own van. If you’re going to live the van life, you should be comfortable driving a van.
- Living in a van during the months of July and August is a really bad idea if you’re going to the desert.
- Heat + lack of sleep + thirst/hunger + stuck in a van with another person + boredom is a recipe for disaster.
- If they were duals, this wouldn’t have happened (jk)

@Poptart, yours is a very balanced analysis. I'm glad there are Alphas around, because I was all set to feed the guy to the wood chipper.

I watched some of the first video, and she has brief moments where she reminds me of someone, but I can't put my finger on who that is. However, she does seem to have an undercurrent of what I would call a slight insanity, and personally, I'd stay far away from her. She seems to be low-level insisting that both she and her life are perfectly normal, and don't you dare look behind that curtain. DON'T LOOK, I SAID. GODDAMMIT.

Her BF gave me ILI vibes a few times. I've seen ILIs who are nice like him, and he might be that type. Or not. It's hard to tell.

I hope this whole thing turns out well for both of them, since I think they both have had some very bad days so far.

Road trips and roommates can be funny things. You can go into them with high expectations, and then everything turns bad for reasons which you can't understand. Been there, many years ago.

[Poptart]

I hope this whole thing turns out well for both of them, since I think they both have had some very bad days so far.

I hope so too, but… I think she’s dead.

[Adam Strange]

I hope so too, but… I think she’s dead.

Yes, I think that's likely.

I had an SLI tell me that he's only ever lost it twice in his life, and he completely blanks out when that happens, but when it's over, he's completely smashed everyone around him.

I don't think the guy is SLI, but rather I think he's a super-nice ILI, but a super-nice ILI is a guy who is in denial of a lot of things, including how he really feels about stuff. If you're nice all the time, it's most likely an act.

High Te and low Fi is not a great combination for being in touch with your feelings.

I remember once, in the last days of my marriage, when my SLI wife was talking to me as I did the dishes, and I suddenly started smashing a Revere Ware pot against the sink until it was completely bent out of shape. As I watched myself do this, I thought "Hmm, smashing things is what people do when they are angry. I wonder if I'm angry? Maybe I am."

Yeah. I'm kind of fucked up in many ways.

[Aria]

I had an SLI tell me that he's only ever lost it twice in his life, and he completely blanks out when that happens, but when it's over, he's completely smashed everyone around him.

I don't think the guy is SLI, but rather I think he's a super-nice ILI, but a super-nice ILI is a guy who is in denial of a lot of things, including how he really feels about stuff. If you're nice all the time, it's most likely an act.

High Te and low Fi is not a great combination for being in touch with your feelings.

I don't know for sure if he's ILI based on the video, but I can see it, and you're right about the super-nice ILIs. I've known a couple like this. Usually have strong e9 in there and possibly a secondary Social instinct giving more of a "nice, normal" impression, and very unaware of the anger that's building.

[Adam Strange]

I don't know for sure if he's ILI based on the video, but I can see it, and you're right about the super-nice ILIs. I've known a couple like this. Usually have strong e9 in there and possibly a secondary Social instinct giving more of a "nice, normal" impression, and very unaware of the anger that's building.

Unacknowledged anger is what scares me about e9's. I mean, maybe they all don't have that, but I'm much more comfortable with anger that is out in the open.