carrying something over from mbti, this is pretty stupid but it can get interesting. make guesses/assumptions about eachothers family based on type, heres mine
me - ILI-Ni
mom - EII-Ne
dad - ILE-Ne
carrying something over from mbti, this is pretty stupid but it can get interesting. make guesses/assumptions about eachothers family based on type, heres mine
me - ILI-Ni
mom - EII-Ne
dad - ILE-Ne
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Me-SEI-Fe
Mom-SLI
Dad-ESI
Sister-SEE
Brother-SLE
Me-ILE
Mom-SEE
Dad-LII
Me - SLI-Si
Mom- ESI-Se?
Dad - SEE-Fi
Sister - IEI-Ni
Maternal half brother - LSE-Te
Paternal half brother - Not sure, some Se valuing feeling type
Paternal half sister - SEE-Se
The rest... very sensory, down to earth family? A bit chill and intense at times?Me - SLI-Si
Mom- ESI-Se?
Dad - SEE-Fi
Paternal half brother - Not sure, some Se valuing feeling type
Paternal half sister - SEE-Se
Me - SLE-Se
Dad - LIE-Te
Mom- ESE-Fe
Brother - Some sort of sensor, prolly Si base or xSI
Me- SEE
Grandma- LSE
Grandpa- SEI
Uncle- EII
Other Uncle- SLI
Mom- SxI
Dad- ILI
Brother- ESI
Me- IEI
Mom- ESE
Dad- ILI
Sister- SEE
Mom - EII-Ne
Dad - LSI-Se
(bad marriage, now divorced)
(Mom's new bf - LIE-Ni)
(Dad's new gf - SEI)
Me IEE-Ne
Sister ILE-Ne
(Sister's bf IEI-Ni)
Paternal gandma - LSI
Gramps - ??? never met him
Maternal gandma - ESE
Maternal grandpa - LII
(I really liked them, but now they're ded)
remark: the number of people with superego or conflict parents is troubling... hypothesis: people with complicated families try to understand socionics to make sense of the mess more often than happy people leading to an over-representation on the forum...
Well, it sucks, he never really gets over the fact I won't shower him with Fe 24/24 or appreciate his Ti, and we're not that close now that I'm an adult. I have some LSI friends, but this parental relationship, because it is close, and because my father always wanted to have authority over me, was a sometimes a burden to carry. Also, I guess he was a bit disappointed as an ST to have a 'sissy' NF son. He was a good father, he was never mean or downright unfair to me, and he was taking his responsabilities very seriously in the household, but what he gave/expected from me wasn't really what I needed to thrive.
I think I posted something similar already, but Kafka, which I type IEE-Fi, wrote something similar about his father(from the descriptions, I'd guess a beta ST):
But that relationship was overshadowed by the suckiness of the relationship between my mom and dad and sister. There is a balance and stability to conflict relationships, that even if uncomfortable, never allows the kind of conflicts i've witnessed between my other family members:Father, understand me correctly: these are completely insignificant details, yet they oppressed me, because you, a great man of authority, could lay down rules for me, and ignore them. And through this I saw that the world was divided into three parts: in the first lived the slave, me, under laws invented solely for my life but to which, without understanding why, I could never fully adjust; and in the second part lived you, infinitely far from me, busy ruling, giving commands and being angry when they weren’t followed; and in the third lived everybody else, happy and free from commands and obedience. And I was constantly in disgrace, either because I followed your commands, and that was a disgrace, as they were valid only for me; or I was stubborn, and that was also a disgrace, because I was being stubborn to oppose you; or I wasn’t able to obey, because I, for example, had not your strength, your appetite, your skill, to do whatever it was that for you seemed natural. ― Franz Kafka, Letter to My Father
Mom-dad: super ego
Sister/dad and Mom/sister: supervision
Last edited by lkdhf qkb; 09-04-2021 at 04:26 PM.
Me - SLE
mom - IEE-Ne
dad - LII-Ti
sister - ESE-Si
sister - EII-Fi
brother - ILI-Te
Dad - SLE
Mom - SEI
Sister - ESI
Brother - ILE
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Me - ILE-Ti
Close family ordered by level of closeness
Mom - EII-Ne
Dad - ILI-Te
Cousin (best friend) - SLI-Si
Grandma 1 - IEE-Ne
Cousin 2 - LIE or IEE?
Aunt - EII-Fi
Uncle - LSE-Te
Grandma 2 - LSE-Te
Grandpa - EII-Ne (RIP)
May I please have a crumb of Fe?![]()
I'm pretty sure of their types especially because their Fi/Ti conflictsOriginally Posted by Tallmo;[URL="tel:1476046"
Originally Posted by Baqer;[URL="tel:1476045"
God have mercy on your momOriginally Posted by Baqer;[URL="tel:1476056"
Neither really depend on eachother. My dad is still kind of the man of the house I guess, in the sense that he has the most confidence in himself and doesn’t have Fi making him afraid to be more assertive. My parent's don't have a typical supervisor relationship even though I'm pretty sure of their types. I’m generally skeptical of intertype relationship theory anyways and it’s part of the reason I made this thread
What's it like having conflictor parents? Do they conflict as much as socionics likes us to believe?Originally Posted by reverie;[URL="tel:1476089"
Last edited by memory; 12-14-2021 at 05:45 PM.
Me - IEI-Ni
Sister - IEI-Fe or ESI-Fi. I still don't know which
Mom - ESE-Fe
Dad - LII-Ti
Oprah - EIE-Fe