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    Default Is it common for Ijs to be forgetful?

    I’ve been working for an Se-LSI and I honestly can’t go a day without being scolded harshly for forgetting names, forgetting to load the printer when I come in, leaving a door open, messing up the header on a spreadsheet, etc. I have a serious deficit when it comes to detail and being an organized, diligent person in general
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    This sounds awful. Idk I thought ESIs would be organized and detail-oriented, but that's what happens when you go off of stereotypes.
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    I could be LSI-Se (potentially). When I'm in a bad mood, yeah, every little thing you do wrong will be scolded. It is not a healthy behavior in the type, probably not your fault.

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    I'm pretty forgetful because the stream of events in any given work week is insane and I can't remember every detail.

    I play the role of your lsi at work for somebody I work with who is terrible with details. What I will say is just write the shit down.

    Also, if your personality sucks for your role, note that down and move on (this may seem non-sequitur but that's because I had a bunch of thoughts I didn't write down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudaimonia View Post
    This sounds awful. Idk I thought ESIs would be organized and detail-oriented, but that's what happens when you go off of stereotypes.
    I try to be and probably come off that way at a cursory glance but I often end up missing one or two procedural steps and don’t like asking her questions when I’m not sure about something since I usually end up feeling stupid, emotionally drained or like I’m distracting her from something more important
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    Ijs don't give information acquisition a priority but once they do acquire it, they don't usually forget the big stuff and they're usually very organized and diligent. I've known a few Eps to be somewhat as you describe although there can be other issues unrelated to type at work such as ADHD; I had an employee who found out he had ADHD when he brought his 10-year-old son to get tested for the condition.

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    Usually they seem to be the ones who will grill you for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PseudoRandomBSGenerator View Post
    Usually they seem to be the ones who will grill you for it.
    maybe I’m just a really schizoid xEE after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    I’ve been working for an Se-LSI and I honestly can’t go a day without being scolded harshly for forgetting names, forgetting to load the printer when I come in, leaving a door open, messing up the header on a spreadsheet, etc. I have a serious deficit when it comes to detail and being an organized, diligent person in general
    Good memory is typically associated with better S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    I’ve been working for an Se-LSI and I honestly can’t go a day without being scolded harshly for forgetting names, forgetting to load the printer when I come in, leaving a door open, messing up the header on a spreadsheet, etc. I have a serious deficit when it comes to detail and being an organized, diligent person in general
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    I’ve been working for an Se-LSI and I honestly can’t go a day without being scolded harshly for forgetting names, forgetting to load the printer when I come in, leaving a door open, messing up the header on a spreadsheet, etc. I have a serious deficit when it comes to detail and being an organized, diligent person in general
    that's not an LSI thing; rather, poor leadership / interpersonal management skills.

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    No I don't think memory is type-related.

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    Not type related.

    If you have serious concerns maybe you should ask a doctor for some tests.
    Other than that try listening to gamma waves to help your brain clear the congestion and plague that helps to improve memory. Free on YOUTUBE. I do it daily.

    Also memory is selective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR400AF View Post
    No I don't think memory is type-related.
    It should be linked to IEs don't you think? since you are paying more attention, shouldn't you remember more info related your ego IEs?

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    IE's are probably related to memory mapping
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtht View Post
    It should be linked to IEs don't you think? since you are paying more attention, shouldn't you remember more info related your ego IEs?
    Yes. But every type might be good at memory, and at the same time one could have horrible memory no matter the type. But different types have different patterns and approaches in their memories since they process information differently.

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    I'm an Ij and I have great long term memory and bad short term memory. I pay a moderate amount of attention to details, but I've never been very organized. I don't like following procedure(in fact, I hate procedure and rules unless they give me some benefit or unless I really wanted to make the person happy, although I'm open to options so I'll listen to procedure if I have to), wearing uniforms, which LSI-Se are sometimes pre-occupied with but many more are flexible and don't need procedure.
    I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.


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