Useless predictions thread, because why not. What cultural issues will we be arguing about in 2031? Porn, freedom of speech, religion....... otherkin? Discuss.
The Culture War in 2031
Useless predictions thread, because why not. What cultural issues will we be arguing about in 2031? Porn, freedom of speech, religion....... otherkin? Discuss.
- Climate change refugees
- California high speed bullet train fail
- Barron Trump
- I dunno
China put harsh limits on video game usage due to their perceived ill-effects on health. It's only logical to extend these limits to other forms of dopamine addiction — like social media, porn and junk food — and the same health crisis will spur campaigners to target these as well. There are concerted campaigns against each of these already, but I believe that they will pick up steam in the coming decade.
Rather than attack free speech directly, campaigners will draw a rhetorical distinction between "free" speech and "unfree" speech. In the same way that it's illegal to sell yourself into slavery, so they'll argue, it should be correspondingly illegal to allow your dopamine circuitry to be hijacked.
Giving sex dolls (or computer-generated porn) to pedophiles in exchange for wearing a tracking device. This one's a no-brainer to me. It'll save people.
From what I hear when something possesses me to listen to NPR, it seems free speech has become the bugbear of the liberal propaganda mills.
I notice that as soon as they achieve power, liberals in the States become vindictive and frightening little buggers. I think what disturbs me so much about it is their unfailing belief in their moral and intellectual superiority; their “tolerance;” even as they suggest, in this case, censorship of any dissident views. I’ve even seen liberals wishing for the death of anyone who holds dissident views — of course I’m sure in the name of tolerance. At least conservatives are relatively open and consistent about what they want.
Last edited by FreelancePoliceman; 09-01-2021 at 06:53 AM.
Yeah, I heard about that. I was on the fence before, but @mu4 is right; China will win, and this is why.Originally Posted by xerx
I see so many kids addicted to screens — all of the ones I can think of, actually, seem to be. I’m convinced it makes kids dumber, especially given how vapid the media children are exposed to are. I half-believe Peppa Pig was created by a devil.
I can’t see the US doing anything like this. Knowing this country, probably the only thing that could incite any kind of mass political rebellion would be forcing parents to pay attention to their kids.
WWIII within 15 years. The culture will be whatever that can be scavenged on the cinder fields. If there is anyone left to scavenge, that is.
Lol
The idea that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and not a fetish is inherent to that policy. If it is indeed a sexual orientation then perfect but if it is a fetish then giving them sex dolls resembling minors or fake child pornography would just lead them deeper into their philia.
And that if deviant sexual orientations are supposed to be inborn genetic deficiencies and not philias related to either childhood experiences, traumatic occurences or sexual conditioning (such as pornography or cultural conditioning).
Last edited by RBRS; 09-02-2021 at 08:14 AM.
Transhumanism will be the big topic of discussion in the future. """Intellectuals""" are already referring to this point in time as "post-human".
https://www.academia.edu/29854963/_W...UMAN_Full_Text
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
According to Strauss–Howe generational theory, the 2030s would be a decade of cultural stagnation and conformity, similar to the 1950ies, (because boomers, the most culturally active generation, will be like 80 or dead). If you believe in such shot-in-the-dark theories...
For the 2020s, I'd guess we'd have to deal with continuing trends like islamist terrorism, climate change, ultranationalism & big country competition, WW3 is probably not going to happen, but one can never be sure that there won't be some escalation of a regional conflict. Let's see if China tries to invade Taiwan after the 2022 chinese Winter Olympics(same timing that Russia invaded Crimea, Olympics bring a lot of attention and money, so it's better to behave before).... which would force NATO to act.
Another issue will be women being "liberated" from the "burden" of childbirth with the advent of lab-grown children so there can be no pause in her social media marketing career.
#girlboss
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-42976858
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Yeah, that's worth considering too.
Should Facebook groups be allowed to be elected president and represent us in congress
I hope to god this is true
DEATH
I think that traditionalists will decisively lose this battle, to be honest. It's the main reason that I've stopped wading into the transgender debate, which is probably the first stage — quickly forgotten — of a vastly greater revolution in what it means to be human. Unless something unexpected changes (or abolishes) capitalism, the enormous controversy surrounding transgenderism won't stop it: if philosophers can't decide the outcome to a question, engineers and investors will.
At that point might aswel throw them in jail. That is if we havent found a way yet to change someones sexuality
I dont think nato will do ajything just as they didnt in crimea
If we created a super intelligent AI with any interest in humanity's growth and gave it access to the internet it would kill itself after reading about this shit.
It's not really the same situation since Crimea was mostly inhabited by Ukranian Russians in favor of being annexed. But mb ur right since Taiwan is only a "major non-nato ally" to the US.
Also a lot of countries will start wondering who's the next on the list once/if Taiwan has been invaded and china 'unified'.
yea the thing is nato was primarily led by USA, and USA as a global power will soon (if not already) be dethroned by china. which means china can invade pretty much anywhere they want, just as america has been doing ever since ww2
Playing with my imagination:
About transhumanism:
2030s: gene therapy available, transgenderism and hormone treatment is mainstream
2040: designer babies with enhanced intelligence, longevity and physical ability only for the super rich and enhanced supersoldiers for the army= Brave New World
2055: reactionary neo-amish antieugenics movements by young neo-hippies
About ecofascism:
- ecoterrorists will sabotage coal factories, blow up rich people's yachts
- some CEOs will go on trial for 'crimes against the planet'
- Animal abolitionists will demonstrate for domesticated animals like cattle to be considered citizens instead of property under the law
Climate change:
- Climate refugee crises, some coastal cities will be inhospitable
- New settlers move to Siberia and Northern Canada, life will be like the wild west
- Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia fight a war over water, as dams and drought stop the Nile from flowing
Economy:
- Neoliberal capitalism is questioned, people argue for universal income
- 1/3 of people have lost their jobs to robots, take online courses for new positions
I suppose we could, but they'd never reveal themselves if they thought they were going to jail. You attract more bears with honey than with vinegar.
The War Against the Machines
Basically this (year 2029 here)
Last edited by peteronfireee2; 09-09-2021 at 04:25 AM.
It's going to come to an ultimate head. There will be those who are essentially like me and fully believe/lean towards the Christian worldview... and those who do not.
I am also wondering about the integrity of this site. I'm clicking on the quote buttons and they just sit there and spin endlessly. Unless I'm wrong and the Brave browser is uniquely incompatible with this site (doubtful as that's what I've been using since day friggin' one here) I think I've finally garnered the attention of some lowly PTB/demonic tool.
Good! Inconvenience me more! While I pray that I am not put to the test (as Jesus himself recommended) if I am and I pass somehow I'm pretty much guaranteed a place in heaven. Problem is that most anyone put to the test fails and thus is damned but the answer is also and always obvious. Trust in God. I pray I can do just that even in the face of a true fallen angel...
Note: If you are ever in the presence of such an entity your only hope of coming out of that encounter without being damned is to trust in God. You're smart you think? The demon is orders of magnitudes smarter. The least of the choirs of angels possesses power far in excess of the greatest of the pagan "gods" as they'd define them. You stand no chance against that threat and it can twist your mind so easily that if it wasn't for God's mercy and graces...
Point is, don't get prideful here. If ye are put to the test do not think yourself above it. Ye are not. Instead, turn yourself over to the one true source of salvation from all evil...
Last edited by End; 09-09-2021 at 05:40 AM.
@End Do you think you pose enough of a threat to anyone in any real position of power for them to take time out of their day to worry about you sharing your worldview in some weird little niche of the internet?
“Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
— James Russell Lowell猫が生き甲斐
I'm not sure, but hopefully there will be far fewer self-righteous people who think it's their right to get involved in everyone else's business. Unfortunately I don't think those sorts are gonna be going away any time soon
“Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
— James Russell Lowell
The Never-Ending Divide
But how is End expressing his thoughts any different than anyone else in the forum that starts a butt plug thread, for example? ( Me personally, I don't care what people post, as long as it isn't intentionally,
End also only has 1277 posts since 2015...--harassing
--targeting
--threatening
--creeping / stalking
--etc etc
Oh wait nvm, it's actually bc he fits a certain demographic , which gives u the greenlight to shit on such people. it's also why it's allowed for some to open multiple/alternative accts to passive-aggressively disrespect the shit out of them some more, while nobody bats an eye. It's also why I've had to block numerous people bc of this passive-aggressive bigotry.
Surely, ur intelligent enough to see some of that ... assuming u urself aren't participating in such things (?)
Anyway, in light of looking at all of this, it actually contradicts ur next statement:
I keep hearing this dumbass statement being indiscriminately thrown around. Sounds cool, but it's cliche as hell; like what does this even mean IRL? How exactly are these forumites being "self-righteous" (assuming a negative connotation) and how exactly r they getting in people's business?I'm not sure, but hopefully there will be far fewer self-righteous people who think it's their right to get involved in everyone else's business.
There's probably less than 5 active users (out of the hundreds of members in this forum) of these so-called "self righteous people" at most, and it's not like they're shoving anything down anyone's throat or kicking their doors down, forcing conversion by the gun or anything. Nor are they intentionally harassing people, with the goal of harming anyone.
And I get it, from time to time, *we all* say stupid things that may rub off the wrong way - and people may hang onto such things as a grudge. Does such particular thing exist and have u brought it up to him, privately?
Anyway, at the very least, we should stop pretending to be diplomatic and admit the giant elephant in the room - that is, the only practical way to solve this unending-problem is if we,
This has always been the case / overarching theme in the forum. But its gotten wayyy worse over the past years - as it's hardly about checks and balances anymore. it's regressed to shutting "the other" down at all costs. Cancel culture. Thru whatever means necessary. Whether it happens out in the open, or it involves ambiguously hiding in the shadows as a friend, only to later pop out as a mustache-twirling enemy.1) just stopped expressing any opinion , or
2) leave the forum forever
This situation actually parallels what the US is going through now; that is, we've been so blindly busy; dividing and fighting each other, we've greatly weakened our place as a world super-power, with everything going down in flames and causing irreversible damage, never mind other nations taking back the bouton and taking the reigns.
We're so fucking stupid, we kinda deserve what's coming tho
"can there be a peace between us?"
"peace? no peace!"
"what is it that u want us to do?"
"DIE." "DIEEEEE!!!!!!!!"but hopefully there will be far fewer self-righteous peopleNah, u r in fact right. these people u secretly hate , underneath ur happy cat avatar, won't necessarily be around forever. don't worry about thatUnfortunately I don't think those sorts are gonna be going away any time soon
Last edited by peteronfireee2; 09-09-2021 at 05:03 PM.
I might, but only briefly. And they already do if you're paying attention. My worldview is not mine own. It is the worldview of those who accept Christ Jesus. Just one of me doesn't change much, but 12, 40, a million? Shit gets real after 12 lemme tell ya.
I need sleep and can't touch on further points because of that but ask me a few more questions that pop up in your mind and I'll be glad to answer.
It's a slow server.
So many interesting, good ideas in this thread, I couldn't reply to them all but I selected some of them. I try to avoid politics, especially since I hold libertarian views and want people to be well, but I know that it's not possible and I'd rather have what I want, what brings me pleasure, avoid who, where, and what pisses me off, than worry about the world (I hold some left-libertarian views since some government things help me out, e.g., needing and enjoying medical treatment at state universities, enjoying state universities, needing better transport to CSBs that satisfy me, and freedom of choice, access to good public libraries, keeping beautiful state parks open, anti-corporate welfare, anti-regulations because more often than not they hurt small businesses, lesser known people, reduce innovation, and enrich the entrenched interests) and we have a more authoritarian president now (Joe Biden is an EIE, most EIEs piss me off, I hate most of them, I often hate most people but I wish them well, they don't know about the ethics of liberty, about human differences, originality, the rare, the lesser known, possibilities, and beauty, too much support for laws, rules, and regulations, and many people won't listen). I look at other things, mainly what could affect me directly. I prefer to leniency and reducing monopoly power over taking peoples' lives, I'm just one person and it won't likely happen to me.
I don't think it's useless because it's entertaining. All of those will probably be argued, I trusted Donald trump to end federal restrictions on prostitution more than I trust Joe Biden to. I highly doubt that he will because he hasn't so far, and he has no real sympathy for women, he would rather punish than be lenient or allow freedom of choice. Like most EIE-Fe, Joe Biden is impervious, especially to individual choice and most individuals' need for leniency and freedom and for being one sided on taxes. A bottom marginal rate cut to 5% and doubling that bracket and cutting the employee portion of the payroll tax by 2%age points would be good, while doing means testing for social security. It's a more beautiful system, and the poor can enjoy their income more and have more and/or better things to spend on. I think increasing the top marginal rate past 39.6% after the first $400k of income is ridiculous because AT LEAST 4% of tax payers have taxable income of 400k or more, many people making $500k/year can blow right past it, with state taxes and other taxes, many people will be giving 50% or more of their income to the government, and it's been pointed that it will have a diminishing return on revenue, and there are so many possibilities so that it wouldn't increase revenue anyway (which isn't necessary IMO), and even if it did than I highly doubt it would be by more than 2%. Art Laffer had a lot of good points.
OK.
Yes, most people seem to be excessively concerned about terrorism, I just wish they would at least go support only going after the terrorists themselves. I have a blase attitude about it and murder, although I adhere to the doctrine of human rights and only allowing smart people in or at least decentralizing immigration and the federal government, making sure 7 years is the maximum, having them do well on the picture arrangement subtest, respect western values of information, ingenuity, creativity, intellect, intelligence, freedom of religion, freedom to not practice a religion, freedom for homosexuality, freedom for expression, freedom for materialism/luxuries, being receptive to needs for aesthetics, being fair to people regardless of gender, sexual orientation, etc, favoring leniency for everyone who commits a crime.
LOL.
Yes! That became evident to me in 2008 especially when Joe Biden was debating Sarah Palin--Joe Biden's a classic narcissist who can't reason well, won't listen to facts and others' wishes that don't further his arguments, goals, opinions, he is too biased towards one thing or group over the other, too in favor of his own power, like most EIE-Fe he couldn't see the other side, nor could he allow fair systems of favor personal choice or have much sympathy for and willing to solve problems for oppressed people, the down and outs, the weirdos, the lesser known people, who make the world better. He really has very little sympathy for people.
Donald Trump was way more flexible, way more willing to change things and challenge Big Pharma, he just needed better methods and a little bit more open-mindedness towards tax cuts for the working poor.
He lost probably because he was so sincere about his anger., and he could've expressed insincere sympathy for blacks and BLM like I would've and said he was working towards a problem for it, started favoring lenient policies (after all, he cared more about power and attention for himself, that was what was most important to him) and attacked Joe Biden's record on crime control. The majority of them (or at least just about all the ones in power) would rather punish or always be tough on certain people, than read a book, create something, play a new video game, seek knowledge, evaluate, analyze, enjoy themselves, maybe being with their friends, be neutral and reward or actually let people be free; I like that conservatives just speak their mind and do so directly whether other people find it offensive or not, it's freedom of expression... even Dick Cheney spoke his mind about what he wanted and what he wished to not have. I believe my favored ideas, places, systems, policies, and ethics are superior, while often believing I'm inferior or average at best and that most of humanity is more ethical and smarter than me. I'd rather enjoy myself. Hillary Clinton was one of the few Democrats who spoke her mind and was willing to say unpopular things, I give her credit for that even though I found her repulsive.
But some liberals and Democrats are fair and tolerant. Everybody should be more humble, open about what they want, what they hate, and what they love, the government should stop spying on people and allow anyone to speak out against it. It should also sell those data collection centers (if there were more freedom of information flow, it wouldn't make much difference in national security anyway, because the information is already out there and so many people can still hack and share it).
I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.
This recently came to mind. I predict that more conservatives will embrace cannabis, and that conservatives will go on to embrace wokeness as well, if only to protect Walt Disney's and Nike's profits (who no doubt want to do business with women, the gay community, Muslims, Hispanics, etc.).
It's difficult to think of anything that doesn't exist at some level already.
Britain will demand reparations from Italy for Roman imperialism. Israel will demand reparations from Greece and/or Italy for Byzantium imperialism and from its neighbours for Islamic subjugation.
It is easy to see climate vigilantism increasing, with attacks against practices deemed most damaging.
Hahahaha! Good of you to notice something I and those who ally/agree with me have noticed. See, the mainstream "conservatives" are the "Generals" to the Liberal/SJW/Satanic "Globetrotters" if ya catch that metaphor. To spell it out: "Conservatives" have exactly zero interest in actually winning any "battle" they pretend to participate in. The joke rings true: the thing conservatives argue against today will be "a core aspect of conservative principles" a decade from now (i.e. the conservative case for X aspect of liberal Dogma).
The thing that's causing the PTB to shit themselves currently is people like me are popping up. I don't give a flying fuck about conservative "principles" or the like. I wanna win. The same way the shitlibs have "won" for the past century. That means boning up on Bernays and Alinsky and using those exact same tactics to promote my own ends. Say what you will about them, they clearly had the winning strategy and thus any smart individual ought to adopt them if they too want to win. You don't decry how dishonorable sniper rifles are if you've only got pistols. You do everything you can to acquire your own sniper rifles and the training and knowledge in regards to how to best use them. Give your enemy a taste of their own medicine and watch em' die and squirm with the same glee they inflicted upon you!
The grand irony is that their demonic tactics can be applied towards saintly ends. People like me are in the process of doing that and, as our moral vision is in fact superior to our enemy's, it will win out long term
I just pray that the good lord doesn't allow Satan to be the sore loser that he is and just glass the planet once it's clear to even his pea brained ass he's already lost (yet again) and can only flip the table and make a feeble and ill-fated attempt to punch the referee (God) in response to that...
Economic interventionism will win because, unlike the Baby Boomers, bigger government is in the economic interests of Millennials and Zoomers. That leaves cultural issues for us to talk about (we still have to fight over something).
The Left will split apart along cultural lines, especially with respect to sexual politics. We'll hear more about sex-positive versus sex-negative feminism (there has been a lot more noise in this direction lately, especially with respect to porn). The transgender issue isn't going away, either (TERFS, etc.) and is only going to get louder: the controversy will be amplified by even more radical forms of bodily transformation.
The Right will split apart along the lines of Libertarianism versus traditional Christianity. For the same cultural reasons and, unlike Libertarians, because traditional Christians are more broadly supportive of social safety nets.
Last edited by xerx; 12-11-2021 at 08:06 PM.
Democratic regimes will lose legitimacy as the mass media and major cultural institutions decline in influence in favor of somewhat more decentralized alternatives. Economic power will become more and more concentrated as problems in logistics, production, energy supply ... increase. The socio-political problems and conflicts that may result from this seem obvious to me.
Every minimal social problem will be exacerbated by factual powers through proficient mainstream media coverage and marketing/social engineering on decentralized media in order to manipulate the population and direct it towards the desired results in an electoral scenario in which social division and destabilization make parliamentary regimes impractical, paving the way for populist leaders with personal ambitions AKA Julius Caesar's western copycats, to enter the game of social influence and easily win over the newly-developed cultural climate.
Little by little new mass leaders with populist claims will emerge and some of them will disempower the classical parliament after transforming the government into their personal fiefdom.
The classic nationalist, ideological or religious movements will be replaced by personal "Popular legions" of the aforementioned mass leaders, perhaps the background of these groups could be an ideological, patriotic or religious narrative, but it will not go beyond that, a simple narrative taking advantage from the general population's lack of meaning and religious beliefs that are essential for plebs to be happy (look at the ever-growing pool of people who claim there's an interdimensional satanic crusade agains't Christ for the human soul that will be completed with vaccines to get the gist of what I'm saying/ Don't take this as an attack on christians nor on COVID vaccine skeptics, it isn't).
After the transition is complete (2100-2130 will be the time of completion I think), we'll be facing an initial time of stable productive, industrial capitalist autocratic regimes followed by an era of personal politics, constant conflict over resources, private legions instead of standing armies and constant civil unrests, paired with unprecedented technical development and advancements and an almost total decay of culture and literacy amongst the common folk (As if the said decay wasn't already present xd)
In a way, the government and entourage of Donald Trump in the United States is a very tiny fraction of this phenomenon beginning to show its face.
For a closer look in time, There's no population replacement rate, welfare models are becoming unsustainable, the labor market is sort of being 'stolen' from zoomers and milenials by boomers, racial tensions rise with inmigration and poverty, inflation will drive a good portion of the population bankrupt, western countries will slowly fade from their prevalent position in geopolitics, there's also escalating tensions in trade fucking up the world's industrial and energy production, escalations between the main superpowers and in-between regional powers (mainly Egypt/The horn of Africa, Turkey, syria and Iraq, Russia and Ukraine...) Russia is peaking in population meaning it cannot maintain a strong enough army in the future which will make them act more agressively, China is winning over the European and african spheres of influence and will peak in the far future like russia, and a posible debt crisis looming in the dark, alongside thousands of things that I know but don't come to my mind at this moment.
Last edited by RBRS; 12-12-2021 at 01:21 PM.
China is definitely a threat to European interests in Africa. African countries that have traded with China have seen larger economic growth than those that have traded exclusively with Europe.
Another — underrated — challenger is Turkey, which is geographically well-positioned to trade with Africa, and which has the Muslim credentials to establish patronage relations with some African elites. Africa is a big place, full of people who have historical grievances against European imperialism, and who hate France and the UK.
China is already investing on and taking over ports and industrial facilities in Europe, europe today is sort of akin to France in the 30s (a fading power) yet demographic and geopolitical reasons seem to favor Europe as a dominant power for the next century.
Turkey and Ethiopia both control or can affect the water supply for their neighbors and both are planning on using that advantage
https://www.maritime-executive.com/e...-east-conflict
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al-...nile-dam%3famp
Europeans have also seen the "Neo colonization" China is doing on Africa and seem to want to get invited into the party.
https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post...foreign-policy
https://www.ispionline.it/it/pubblic...s-africa-28658
https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en...-france-summit
https://www.tralac.org/news/article/...a-s-youth.html
Most importantly; The US economy is dependent on a constant demand of US dollars and the classic trade deficit resulting from Petrodollar, there have been menaces to it but they have been "dealt with"(Irak, Libya and Syria) but now stronger players are starting to get in the way and the US would practically destroy itself on a war agains't these powers, one of the current key factors in this struggle is the European energy market and it is getting... I think we can expect some weird actions from the american goverment.
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