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    When is porn ethical? Can porn be ethical?
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    I think it depends on what you consider ethical. In terms of laws making sure legal age, consent, hours, pay etc…that would be ethical in working conditions.

    However, I don’t think porn can be ever ethical personally if we get to the nitty gritty of things because we would have to change a whole society and how we both view ourselves, sex, and sex work. What I mean is, sex work is still taboo despite it being the world oldest profession. People still look down upon sex workers and most don’t go into this field because they want to. Even if they do, it will cause them social stigma if people know. Also porn can lead to warped views on sex and with all kinds of porn out there, people can easily go down a rabbit whole. Then porn stars tend to have generally perfect bodies which can lead to false views of both men and women. Men may feel insecure about their body or penis size. Women may feel insecure about their bodies and vagina size. Even if there are all people of different shapes and sizes, people are still most likely going to seek out the „perfect“ or society view of perfect image and body type. It is extremely multilayered.

    Also, even if we watched porn between a loving normal couple, would it be ethical to show it? In the sense even if they were fine to consenting to their video, if you considered sex scared and ethical, you wouldn’t want to show it cause it could mean some deeper psychological issues for wanting to expose that to others. You’re dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Then porn stars tend to have generally perfect bodies which can lead to false views of both men and women. Men may feel insecure about their body or penis size. Women may feel insecure about their bodies and vagina size. Even if there are all people of different shapes and sizes, people are still most likely going to seek out the „perfect“ or society view of perfect image and body type.
    The porn industry thrives on self-hatred and insecurity.



    The production of porn may strive to be ethical but even if that was possible its widespread availability is also problematic. More and more children are compulsively consuming free porn online.

    People are addicted to watching people fuck, that's where we are in society rn.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2141247/Children-aged-8-addicted-Internet-pornography.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    The porn industry thrives on self-hatred and insecurity.
    Sounds like every other industry where people are paid for work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Sounds like every other industry where people are paid for work.

    I see what you mean, but I think this is a cynical over generalization. Medicine, teaching, farming, aerospace engineering, etc, don't prey on the insecurities of people.

    To your point though, I'm not making an argument for why porn is uniquely bad when I say this, because there are several industries that use this tactic.

    The fitness industry is a analogous example to the porn industry where consumption of fitness media is tied-in with up-selling supplements and gadgets.
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    Mainstream legal porn is already very ethical. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just being some unhealthy enneagram 1, putting their nose in other people's business in order to feel morally superior when they are clearly not. Also probably hypocritical as hell cuz they themselves are probably into some weird thing that they would be judged for.

    It's ethical because:

    (1. It's overseed a lot by the FBI. Primarily to make sure it's not kiddy. (2. It has to go on the 2557 recordbase thing usually. I think there's legal cavaets with this but pretty sure it's a law in most states. (3 Before they do bdsm scenes they ask if the person is okay with it. Even if it seems very natural and sponteanous they still ask them if they're okay with everything. (4 They have to sign a lot of Te/Ti paperwork. (5 They have to tell people that this is only an enacted fantasy and to not try it at home etc.

    However to stop the thing where people regret if after they do it- which I think is usually asshole religious types brainwashing them ((& I will never on the same side as religion who has persecuted my people for years)) & they're allowing bigoted people to be in their head when they shouldn't be - but if they feel guilty doing it afterwards ala Jake Genesis, I think cartoon/graphic porn has the best shot at being truly ethical because a real person isn't being involved.

    I still don't think it's okay to have something too immoral just because it's 'graphic novel porn' - this shouldn't be used as an excuse for underage material or anything, but it has a much higher chance of not exploiting people.

    If you were molested or abused or raped, try to get some help for that ((I don't necessarly mean a mainstream Te therapy place cuz that can backfire)) but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. People don't have the right to take away other people's consensual kink and fun just because they were hurt.

    As always I'm going to post this song cuz I like it so much and always sums my view on this topic. Sex is not the enemy, so let's stop making it the enemy.


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    I think maybe this is a gay/straight difference as well because a lot of gay porn is really super tame. I think you'd have to be very homophobic or deranged to think of most gay porn as being "unethical" as it's usually way too boring and safe to be unethical lol. It usually goes out of its way to play nice to the LSE businessmen who they know view it at home while pretending to be against it in public and in church.

    But yeah I think in some straight porn scenes they can get rather super rough and "playfully misogyinistic" but again- in real life, a lot of women will date guys like that and it seems to turn them on so who are we to judge? And even that stuff has its rules and must follow federal laws. If I was a straight woman/caring beta male str8 dude maybe I'd feel different on this issue... but there are still gay porn scenes that can be rough.

    Since I'm Se dual-seeking and a sinful homosexual, of course those rougher scenes are my favorite ones and I don't like the mild mealy-mouthed 'let's not offend anybody' scenes that put you straight to sleep! I agreed with gay porn performer Lance Gear so much when he said gay porn was way too soft. ((and damn some of his scenes can be wicked hot lol - so I'm glad he was the change he wanted to see in the world.)) LoL I'm gay but I'm still a guy- I usually need something a bit more rough and intense - and you know what? I refuse to feel guilty or dirty because of my love of non-PC Se rough sex. If a person can't handle all of me- they don't deserve to be my friend.

    I guess maybe- I should be a bit more nicer and understanding to the other side even though they most likely aren't going to be that with me and are just gonna be like "Ahh he's so sinful and gay get him away from me!!!" Heterosexual moralists are so fragile and sensitive lol...

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