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    Unhappy EIEs and their PoLr Si

    I saw that LIEs had one of these, I searched the forum for one for EIEs and couldn't find anything. So if there's a thread already I apologize.

    What are some EIEs issues with Si that you all have observed?

    I have an eating disorder
    I'm a hypochondriac
    I am afraid of the doctor/dentist

    I'm not bad at cooking though. I dress ok too.

    But if you criticize my appearance it will really ruin my day (possibly week).
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    I have an eating disorder
    I'm a hypochondriac
    I am afraid of the doctor/dentist

    I'm not bad at cooking though. I dress ok too.

    But if you criticize my appearance it will really ruin my day (possibly week).
    Exactly like the EIE I know best. Although she's a great cook, not just ok. I suppose that soon, you will start being afraid to become disgusting as you get old.
    She's also known to use a lot of make-up, and to dress in flashy red and black uniforms.

    I've noticed close behaviours in IEIs, but not nearly as extreme (the EIE I was making reference to, has not seen a doctor or set foot in a hospital in the last ten years. And she's old now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaruchJorgell View Post
    Exactly like the EIE I know best. Although she's a great cook, not just ok. I suppose that soon, you will start being afraid to become disgusting as you get old.
    She's also known to use a lot of make-up, and to dress in flashy red and black uniforms.

    I've noticed close behaviours in IEIs, but not nearly as extreme (the EIE I was making reference to, has not seen a doctor or set foot in a hospital in the last ten years. And she's old now).
    Lol I have seen this in quite a few female EIEs. And in female IEIs to a lesser extent, yes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaruchJorgell View Post
    Exactly like the EIE I know best. Although she's a great cook, not just ok. I suppose that soon, you will start being afraid to become disgusting as you get old.
    She's also known to use a lot of make-up, and to dress in flashy red and black uniforms.

    I've noticed close behaviours in IEIs, but not nearly as extreme (the EIE I was making reference to, has not seen a doctor or set foot in a hospital in the last ten years. And she's old now).

    Lol yes this is true. In the past few years I've been worried about aging more and more.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Lol yes this is true. In the past few years I've been worried about aging more and more.
    Poor Yorick, I knew him well.


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    There is a lot of examples of PoLr Si in this Doc. She has fibromyalgia that's not what I mean though, I wouldn't attribute that to PoLr Si.

    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaruchJorgell View Post
    I suppose that soon, you will start being afraid to become disgusting as you get old.
    I was watching this and I thought of this comment. He talks about going into a complete panic from the thought of losing his hair. Idk about his actual type though.

    https://youtu.be/QpTvfYC71d8?t=60
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    I saw that LIEs had one of these, I searched the forum for one for EIEs and couldn't find anything. So if there's a thread already I apologize.

    What are some EIEs issues with Si that you all have observed?

    I have an eating disorder
    I'm a hypochondriac
    I am afraid of the doctor/dentist

    I'm not bad at cooking though. I dress ok too.

    But if you criticize my appearance it will really ruin my day (possibly week).
    One EIE ive known would go to the doctor for mosquito bites thinking it was cancer lumps or something lmao

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    @D E M O N appearance is about Se, probably more than Si.

    I actually do know two EIEs with fibromyalgia...

    But more generally, Si vulnerable will manifest not in physical issues but as an inability to rest or relax or appreciate the here and now. That's what you should look for, rather than how good someone is at cooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    But more generally, Si vulnerable will manifest not in physical issues but as an inability to rest or relax or appreciate the here and now.
    I have caught myself often misappropriating Se traits to Si. The above statement isn't really something I understand. I understand it theoretically, but I have a hard time recognizing what it feels like.

    Throughout my life I have consistently been unable to appreciate the current moment and I've been trying to get myself to do that lately.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    I have notice with Si polrs that they will wear the most flashy and uncomfortable items. Like, they look good but, damn Jan how are you going to walk in that? Aren’t your feet sore and aren’t you going to be cold? What if you bend over and flash someone?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    I have notice with Si polrs that they will wear the most flashy and uncomfortable items. Like, they look good but, damn Jan how are you going to walk in that? Aren’t your feet sore and aren’t you going to be cold? What if you bend over and flash someone?!?

    Lol I don't quite run into the problem of flashing anyone. But, it took me 6 years to buy a winter coat and I live in the Midwest. Its not a warm climate.

    I also have the fashion sense of Steve Harvey.

    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Sometimes I wonder if people mistake me as an Si PolR, because of my autism executive functioning level…

    Autism definitely will obfuscate the type.. It may make us appear Fi or Si PolR, due to theory of mind differences, and also due to issue with sensory issue and difficulty with management of its up keeping and health…

    It is compounded, my inability, by being around my family which puts immense stress upon me.. Cannot at all keep my room clean, my hygiene is really, really, really bad around my parents.. I have gotten my third infection in past few months from lack of hygiene upkeep, but it all stems down to the stress I am put in that makes me neglect of it.

    But in reality, I am not helpless on Si.. I value things like ASMR, aromatherapy, warm baths, I have gotten health articles, etc.. And when I am away from negative environments, my Si is not as bad as it appears of when under stress, and it is more manageable.
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    I mean.. The amount of stress I brunt is severe, and it really influences my Se and Si, since I am not as good in them.. And cannot regulate them, also being autistic, which basically is aside from social malady, a sensory intolerance.
    I am in my head; not society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    I have notice with Si polrs that they will wear the most flashy and uncomfortable items. Like, they look good but, damn Jan how are you going to walk in that? Aren’t your feet sore and aren’t you going to be cold? What if you bend over and flash someone?!?
    Se leading types also, most typically

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