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    How about you guys ask me questions, and I'll answer them. It's fair this way. It's not rigged at all. It's more fun this way.

    No battletyping here, no going off topic, and don't be a bitch and insult everything you see, alright?

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    Do you like people who are outwardly emotional and/or people who like to infect you with their emotions to make you feel like you belong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Honestly? People who are outwardly emotional so I can read them. I don't care about being infected emotionally, and I don't like it. It's an uncomfortable spot for me. I can't read people well with just an emotional instinct, and them "infecting me". I don't care about belonging, to be honest. So the former.
    Wait no those are just the same type of people. So do you like them or not? Also why? What effect do they have on you?
    If you would create your ideal friend what characteristics would that ideal friend have? No peeking at sociotype descriptions
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    Alright, so since you question is vague I will quote these two parts again:

    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    Do you like people who are outwardly emotional and/or people who like to infect you with their emotions to make you feel like you belong?
    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    Wait no those are just the same type of people. So do you like them or not? Also why? What effect do they have on you?
    If you would create your ideal friend what characteristics would that ideal friend have? No peeking at sociotype descriptions
    So, you are saying that people who are outwardly emotional are the same people who infect you with emotions to make you feel like you belong? Didn't you just distinguish them as two different groups of people? I thought they were two groups, so I am going with the original definition of them being two different types of people, okay? I can see how they can both easily be the same type of people, but I can also see how they are two different types of people. It depends on how you see them and your perspective and what definitions you go by.

    + Do I like people who are outwardly emotional (is this all the time?) If all the time, not really. I can't deal with constantly dramatic, emotional people or overly expressive people for too long. The reason being is because I don't have the energy or focus to deal with them all the time. I need my own space away from highly emotional people to evaluate things.

    If it's for a night out, then it's fun and it's not gonna happen for a while, then yeah because it's appropriate for a fun night out.

    Having someone constantly being outwardly emotional around me would be annoying and impractical and cause conflicts because I am not a naturally emotional or tactile person, and having someone be chaotic emotionally around me would just upset me and make me lose focus and control of my thought process. I am quite a control freak and I like things to be organised and flowing, and if someone upsets that too much, it really riles me up and annoys me.

    + As for people who want to infect me with their emotions and "make me feel a sense of belonging?" Nah. I don't really care for them. I don't hate them, but I don't really like bring infected by inward emotions or invoking them, or care for a sense of belonging.

    A sense of belonging is something very temporary for me because it changes a lot depending on where you go, as does the definition, and everything is temporal and it's not really a priority of mine so meh, don't care for them.

    +My ideal friend, honestly? I dunno. I haven't had any in years... I forgot what those are.

    Okay jokes aside, probably someone who's chill, someone who can take a joke, have some fun. Is somewhat creative (unlike me), and basically goes with the flow. I need someone agreeable around me too. Maybe someone like Jade Sotomayor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Ka_UmSJZE most of my friends have been like that, to be honest. I'm usually the one who takes charge.

    I appreciate low maintenance people who can give me space too. I'm not a social person at all, and I don't care much for relationships, making them or maintaining them because I'm not great at it at all. I know that might shock people, but it's not a natural strength of mine. I'm not a social butterfly, and even being friendly is a struggle for me.



    Also, ignoring non Socionics related questions.
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    Also, ignoring non Socionics related questions.
    Is my cat question included here?? @DEAD
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    What? Sorry if the phrasing was weird but I was just asking if you would like a person with those kinds of traits @DEAD
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    What is your perception of life and how do you usually get away with your troubles in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTzu View Post
    What is your perception of life and how do you usually get away with your troubles in it?
    My perception of life? Honestly? It’s a series of events to analyse and make sense of. And it’s also a place to rest the waters and to do things. It’s something that you can organise and adapt to easily.

    Got away with my troubles? Like get away with things? Hack life? I guess I’m sneaky and I’m prepared to say whatever I have to say if I get caught. I’m also kinda laid back when people don’t annoy me, so that helps a lot. I try to remain as calm and stoic as I can, which is usually my default anyway.

    I think I answered the question, lol.

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    @DEAD

    What do you do for a career? How did you come into it?

    What are your dreams in life? How long have you had them? Have you ever changed your life plans and if so how did it make you feel?

    What is your ideal group atmosphere? Can you recall a time you had a really good time with a group of people and describe what it was like.

    What have your relationships been like? Who do you vibe with?

    Lastly, why did you choose this type, and why are you doubting it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Professional Procrastinator. Not by choice but by pandemic.

    I don't have any because I'm a realist. I don't dream, or have dreams. I just do the things I want to.

    To be honest, I don't really socialise that much because I don't need to, and it doesn't really interest me, but I like times where people are chilling, chatting and having fun at a party and then I can drink for an hour or two, and fade away and get drunk and come back later drunk. And crack a few jokes, then drink some more and then pass out after I eat a kebab on the way home. I think that those are the best memories for me.

    What is this vibe nonsense, and what does it mean? Is it a Gen Z thing? Can I please have a proper definition of "vibe"?

    I chose this type from a random types generator. Kidding. I think that it's my best fit (Beta ST) but I also have strong Te, which is expected. I think that's what confused me, to be honest. The Te and Se, but I am thinking in a way I might be confusing Ti+Se with Te.
    lol. By vibe I meant have your ever felt like when you were around someone or talked with someone they understood you easily, and there was very little conflict between yourself and this person. If so why do you think this was?

    What would you like to do for a career? If it weren't for a pandemic. What did you do?

    Have you ever had a plan for the future? Do you feel like planning for the future is valuable?

    You said that people don't interest you, what does interest you?
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    +My ideal friend, honestly? I dunno. I haven't had any in years... I forgot what those are.

    Okay jokes aside, probably someone who's chill, someone who can take a joke, have some fun. Is somewhat creative (unlike me), and basically goes with the flow. I need someone agreeable around me too. Maybe someone like Jade Sotomayor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Ka_UmSJZE most of my friends have been like that, to be honest. I'm usually the one who takes charge.

    I appreciate low maintenance people who can give me space too. I'm not a social person at all, and I don't care much for relationships, making them or maintaining them because I'm not great at it at all. I know that might shock people, but it's not a natural strength of mine. I'm not a social butterfly, and even being friendly is a struggle for me.
    Ok I saw this and this kind of answered the "vibe" question for me.
    @DEAD why would you prefer a friend who is creative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Ok I saw this and this kind of answered the "vibe" question for me.
    @DEAD why would you prefer a friend who is creative?
    Because I'm not very creative myself, and I'm not very original. I like new insights, once in a while if they make sense. I'm not into random, creative chaotic creativity. Like in terms of creativity, stuff like Rick and Morty and Ali G confuse me, and they don't make sense to me and I don't get it much. It's just not very clever and is too random for me, if that makes sense? Family Guy can be that way as well.

    I think that everyone needs respite from their own minds as well in terms of analysing things. You know? If it demands it. I think I prefer creativity that makes sense and has an concept, or is very visual rather than TEE HEE RANDOM kinda stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Because I'm not very creative myself, and I'm not very original. I like new insights, once in a while if they make sense. I'm not into random, creative chaotic creativity. Like in terms of creativity, stuff like Rick and Morty and Ali G confuse me, and they don't make sense to me and I don't get it much. It's just not very clever and is too random for me, if that makes sense? Family Guy can be that way as well.

    I think that everyone needs respite from their own minds as well in terms of analysing things. You know? If it demands it. I think I prefer creativity that makes sense and has an concept, or is very visual rather than TEE HEE RANDOM kinda stuff.

    I do understand what you mean about the "random" type of creativity that your talking about.

    So you prefer to be around creative people even though you don't see yourself as one.

    I think that everyone needs respite from their own minds as well in terms of analysing things. You know? If it demands it.
    If I understand this right, creative works that you appreciate will help you get out of your head and make you think about the subject in front of you?

    You said this earlier:

    I don't have any because I'm a realist. I don't dream, or have dreams. I just do the things I want to.
    What do you think of people that dream about the future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    I do understand what you mean about the "random" type of creativity that your talking about.

    So you prefer to be around creative people even though you don't see yourself as one.
    Yeah, it's just random and it has no purpose or impact. It gets tiresome to follow after a while.

    Yeah, creative and calm you know? Someone who explains their creativity and makes it make sense and have an impact you know? Yeah, I'm really not a creative persona at all in the original sense. I much more of a practical, technical executioner than just creative.


    If I understand this right, creative works that you appreciate will help you get out of your head and make you think about the subject in front of you?
    Well, I am a very analytical person. I like to analyse the world, and make things grounded and make sense. I can observe the world around me, and like I said, systemize and organise it. But yeah, creative works can help me clear my mind and appreciate the world and just focus on it more if that makes sense?

    [quuote]What do you think of people that dream about the future?[/QUOTE]

    It depends on the dreams. If they are idealistic and unrealistic, then I think that they need to rethink things because idealism that's unattainable and impractical and not realstic. If it's to improve the future and is attainble and practical and a solution, then I can understand it and encourage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Yeah, it's just random and it has no purpose or impact. It gets tiresome to follow after a while.

    Yeah, creative and calm you know? Someone who explains their creativity and makes it make sense and have an impact you know? Yeah, I'm really not a creative persona at all in the original sense. I much more of a practical, technical executioner than just creative.
    Can you think of a real life example of when this has happened? Also what do you mean by impact?


    Well, I am a very analytical person. I like to analyse the world, and make things grounded and make sense. I can observe the world around me, and like I said, systemize and organise it. But yeah, creative works can help me clear my mind and appreciate the world and just focus on it more if that makes sense?


    It depends on the dreams. If they are idealistic and unrealistic, then I think that they need to rethink things because idealism that's unattainable and impractical and not realstic. If it's to improve the future and is attainble and practical and a solution, then I can understand it and encourage it.
    Also can you think of a time you dealt with an unrealistic idealistic person? How exactly did you react?
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    I am quite a control freak and I like things to be organised and flowing, and if someone upsets that too much, it really riles me up and annoys me.

    What "things" specifically do you like organized and flowing?

    What do you mean specifically by organized?

    What do you mean specifically by flowing?

    How do you regain and maintain control?

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    oh boy a fucking game. sorry i didn't read op. sorry i hate this planet. sorry i just cant' deal with this. this whole reality is horseshit. and no one calls it out. no one calls out this crap we all have to live in. i'm so tired of it.

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    [QUOTE=D E M O N;1469068]Can you think of a real life example of when this has happened? Also what do you mean by impact?

    When I mean impact, I mean something creative that has stuck with me like Gaspar Noe movies stick with me. They're creative and they have a theme and they're weird as hell, but you can assign a meaning to them as well. Climax and Enter The Void come to mind. They're about drugs, exploration of life, enjoyment, death and the afterlife. They also make you think and aren't just there to entertain. And some songs stick with me because they're consistent with the lyrics and the theme of the song and it makes sense to convey the message.

    Also can you think of a time you dealt with an unrealistic idealistic person? How exactly did you react?
    Me and my Mom think quite differently a lot of the time. She has a lot of things she needs/wants done but she can never properly impliment them, so she wants me to do them. She tells me her aims and what she wants done and gives me a rough idea, and I sort out a mental list of things, and how to set about how to do them. I make myself a mental 'workflow' chart of instructions and go about doing it. If I am stuck, I can just look things up.

    I reacted calmly, until she annoyed me, then I told her what was up. And how I could only do one thing at a time properly. And to wait until I organise and fix everything she's done. If she persists, we just argue and fight, which is stupid but it's the only way to get her to listen sometimes, which is annoying. Eventually, we reason and come to a conclusion.

    But if it's on the forums and it's a bunch of psychobabble nonsense dreamy crap, I tend to ignore it, or if it's really annoying and persistent, I point out what is wrong with their thinking and try inject some reason and stats into it. And try and make it make sense, because nothing irks me more than people saying "because", "I dunno?" "I feel it" or "vibes" as reasoning alone. Why, though? Why do you feel it? Why are those just vibes?

    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    What "things" specifically do you like organized and flowing?

    What do you mean specifically by organized?

    What do you mean specifically by flowing?

    How do you regain and maintain control?
    1. My flow of information, mentally and physically. The things around me.

    2. I like things to be organised, as in sorted into piles of relevant information (preferribly in chronological order, in alphabetical order or some sort of conceiveable order). I like breaking things up and sorting them out to make sense of them.

    3. When I say flowing, I mean transitioning smoothly from point A-B-C in a linear fashion. No interruptions blocking the way of the information.

    4. I regain control by sorting, organising my enviornment and eliminating the obstacles in my way and dealing with them. Mentally, this is harder to do because I do have intrusive thoughts which I am learning to break down, make sense of and ignore completely. At times, I will push and pull until I get the desired result. I know exactly what I want as well. I like to take decisive action and go for things.

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    @DEAD you sound like you are probably an ST. I don't think you are an ethical type really from the descriptions of how you interact with groups. You seem extroverted on the forum but idk about you in real life. It's just hard to figure out what functions you value.

    I'm thinking LSE could be highly possible along with SLE. So I'm going to say why I'm thinking of LSE as a possibility and you can tell me why you think it's wrong.

    Like this stuff sounds like an LSE criticizing weak unvalued Te and a little annoyance with Ni.


    Me and my Mom think quite differently a lot of the time. She has a lot of things she needs/wants done but she can never properly impliment them, so she wants me to do them. She tells me her aims and what she wants done and gives me a rough idea, and I sort out a mental list of things, and how to set about how to do them. I make myself a mental 'workflow' chart of instructions and go about doing it. If I am stuck, I can just look things up.

    I reacted calmly, until she annoyed me, then I told her what was up. And how I could only do one thing at a time properly. And to wait until I organise and fix everything she's done. If she persists, we just argue and fight, which is stupid but it's the only way to get her to listen sometimes, which is annoying. Eventually, we reason and come to a conclusion.

    But if it's on the forums and it's a bunch of psychobabble nonsense dreamy crap, I tend to ignore it, or if it's really annoying and persistent, I point out what is wrong with their thinking and try inject some reason and stats into it. And try and make it make sense, because nothing irks me more than people saying "because", "I dunno?" "I feel it" or "vibes" as reasoning alone. Why, though? Why do you feel it? Why are those just vibes?


    It depends on the dreams. If they are idealistic and unrealistic, then I think that they need to rethink things because idealism that's unattainable and impractical and not realstic. If it's to improve the future and is attainble and practical and a solution, then I can understand it and encourage it.
    I don't have any because I'm a realist. I don't dream, or have dreams. I just do the things I want to.
    This is what really put up the red flag. SLEs are doers but they always have a dream. LSEs are doers and they tend to be the type to just like doing things. But it could be I just worded my question wrong.

    The other thing I don't see a lot of Fe values in how you describe your environment or an ideal friend or partner.

    I appreciate low maintenance people who can give me space too. I'm not a social person at all, and I don't care much for relationships, making them or maintaining them because I'm not great at it at all. I know that might shock people, but it's not a natural strength of mine. I'm not a social butterfly, and even being friendly is a struggle for me.
    Honestly? People who are outwardly emotional so I can read them. I don't care about being infected emotionally, and I don't like it. It's an uncomfortable spot for me. I can't read people well with just an emotional instinct, and them "infecting me". I don't care about belonging, to be honest. So the former.
    I feel like an SLE would like to be infected by the emotions and like someone to give them that Fe.

    But to be honest I feel like you have way too much Fe in your posts for an LSE but most of these answers could go either way. Jade Sotomayor helps but IDK about their type either.

    So I'm more just curious in figuring out why you don't consider Deta ST and you gravitate toward Beta ST.
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    Oh is this thread for questions to help you think through it, or questions and feedback of what we think of your answers? I assumed it was just questions, no typing

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    @DEAD you sound like you are probably an ST. I don't think you are an ethical type really from the descriptions of how you interact with groups. You seem extroverted on the forum but idk about you in real life. It's just hard to figure out what functions you value.
    I know that I have both 4D Te and Se, so it's hard to know what I value, because I have been told that both are so strong by various people. I need no help with either. But I think that a lot of people still confuse Se with being just "sheer force", and they forget about the other aspects of it, like organisation, motivation and shaping the outside world. I think a part of the issue also is that whole 'social hierarchy = Beta ST' thing that's also over exaggerated. Do I think that Beta care about social hierarchy? Yeah, but not in the way that its described, I think those are an extreme example, and idealised a bit. And a lot of the Socionicists are/were Alpha NT as well, and don't have the best grasp on Se as a singular function, let alone it being paired with Ti.

    I also have been told I seem to relate to Beta values a lot, but based on the descriptions and how the Quadra functions work together, I can also see a strong resemblance of Delta Values within me (which could also be down to the strong 4D Te). But I also think they can be a bit generic at times (which I get because it's hard to paint an accurate imagine of four different types coming together in one coherent Quadra, per-se with shared values).

    I see the “Quadra Values” more as guides, though, than actual absolutes. I have seen a lot of variations within the functions and how people interpret values/functions over the years on the forums, so that’s up for debate. It’s sort of like a “diagnosis list” of sorts when you thunk about it. You have these list of “Quadra Values” and if you relate to/tick off a lot of X Quadra values, then it’s worth considering right?

    I don’t think that those “values” alone are totally accurate to ‘typing’, because of the different functional variations, general variations in global cultures (Socionics is mainly geared towards Russians, so American LSE or British SLE will be different and have different values etc). Of course there can be correlations, but those are things to keep in mind. People who the Quadra’s functions can most certainly relate to them, but it’s not something I’d take 100% serious, but I would take it with a pinch of salt.

    I'm thinking LSE could be highly possible along with SLE. So I'm going to say why I'm thinking of LSE as a possibility and you can tell me why you think it's wrong.
    I'm just gonna explain all the things and give my opinion of what you've quoted then.

    Like this stuff sounds like an LSE criticizing weak unvalued Te and a little annoyance with Ni.
    Yeah, I definitely agree that my Ni is most likely 1D. I'm not great at Ni at all, but :

    - I know common sense things from experience and I work off the experiences.

    - I'm not a very imaginative person, in terms of visuals. All my works are basically based in the real world.

    - I'm terrible at planning, and having a vision and working towards it and keep to the vision.

    - I am a very concrete, realistic person. I'm not into mystical, new age crap.

    - I tend to avoid planning, but I can see where things are going sometimes, if it's obvious. I'm not completely stupid, you know?

    - I'm not very good at sitting down and working out all the consequences or caring about them.

    - I have no fixed schedule and I do things my way, and I take as long as I have to.

    Yeah, my Mom annoyed me again today because she "organised" a bunch of things in work (actually, she got my brother's girlfriend to help her) and she STILL couldn't find photos. She looked for them, and I thought it was a waste of time and effort organising them because she still made a mess of it. And it was incompetent. At least when they were a mess before, they were all in the same place. Yeah, she's really not very good at Tx functions at all. She just had piles of things everywhere, and it made me annoyed. Like, sometimes I don't put things away exact but I STILL know where they are. I have a good idea of where they are.

    This is what really put up the red flag. SLEs are doers but they always have a dream. LSEs are doers and they tend to be the type to just like doing things. But it could be I just worded my question wrong.
    - I'm very frugal (I don't think this is type related) but I'd rather save money than spend it.

    - I'm very comfortable using Se to accomplish things and start them. I can use that force/energy to propel myself into motion.

    - I prefer to do things when I need to do them, and I'm not always on the "go" from the POV of doing things that don't need to be done.

    - I'm not into constantly defending my space, but I'll defend it if you get up my ass or annoy me. I just find that crap immature (especially when it's done by the "SLEs" of this forum).

    - I try to avoid petty conflicts, but if you drag me into them and I can't get out, I'll defend myself.

    - I want to be doing productive things, and I want to accomplish things but they're all very "basic" points. It's all like "you see, I am doing this today, this tomorrow, I should do this today also, this tomorrow and I have that appointment for Thursday." I have no grandiose plans for the future, or aspirations.

    - I'm a very 'go with the flow' kinda person, tbh. I think they're unnecessary a lot of the time, unless they ARE important decisions that need planned.

    - I can organise and prepare my clothes, and the things I need for vacation, the next day etc (but so can most people). I like to be ready for things, and am not a fan of uncertainty. I hate it, and I consider myself a very decisive person who likes coherency and consistency.

    - I don't think much about about the future, or the past. I have a general gist of how it might go (according to leaked documents, sci-fi, current events etc), but no actual abstract concept. I don't tend to worry about the future at all, unlike my LIE Dad, who does my head in about it.

    - I like to relax when I can. Relaxing helps me regain control mentally, and also lets me get into the flow. If I'm too overwhelmed mentally, I don't perform well but I can still pull things out "last minute" and have them be alright. I've never worried much about deadlines or time constraints tbh. They are guides, not absolutes.

    The other thing I don't see a lot of Fe values in how you describe your environment or an ideal friend or partner.
    I don't care about getting a partner at all. I'm not a romantic person, and I don't really care about having an ideals in a partner or an ideal friend much, which is also another reason why I am very vague from the ideals point of view. I don’t think about this much at all. It’s not a priority to me. I think that people just expect everyone to have this worked out, because most people do at least think about it and work it out.

    From experience, reality seems to be a let down. I would rather have no expectations and just find someone who is satisfactory in regards to what I want (someone for sex, really and someone who can just not be attached to me). It’s more of a “business transaction” and a “means to an end” for me in the romance side of things. I’d even say that I am an aromatic (someone who doesn’t care about, value, experience sexual attraction in the traditional sense). I think those factors may play into things a bit.

    Also, I think this is kinda straight Te-talking in the romance side of things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEEfHOdhJJY (was just listening to this song, and I wanted to add it in there). He wants the truth, he doesn’t want to “play games”, he wants to be honest with her (LxE in love).

    As for friends, I think that I don’t have many ideals or expectations either. I think I, above all, just want to find likeminded people to discus things with. I also think that creative people are good to expand your horizons in a way. I’m not one for unnecessary open-mindedness, but I think that constructive open-mindedness is good (from the POV that it might make things make more sense, and it might also work for the said subject/task in a finding a solution, like a conversation ender/ starter). As long as it’s not too inconsistent.

    I feel like an SLE would like to be infected by the emotions and like someone to give them that Fe.
    I think that also I can loosen up, but it’s more like I need to warm up first as well. I think that it takes me a while to get into the swing of things. It’s not that I completely hate Fe, I think that I also need to be in a certain mindset/mood for heavy doses of it. I can actually be a riot and a hoot when I want to, but just not for a long time. I tire when I have to do it for long periods of time.

    I also can’t go for weeks without emoting, or else it all becomes pent up and I become hell on earth. I’m learning to control and regulate that aspect of things, and use the “coping mechanisms” I have put in place to do so (i.e. listening to music, thinking about what is making me mad, telling jokes, focusing on the problem at hand etc).

    But to be honest I feel like you have way too much Fe in your posts for an LSE but most of these answers could go either way. Jade Sotomayor helps but IDK about their type either.
    This is another point I want to bring up. I think that in a way, people equate JUST being polite and having a laugh as Fe, without thinking about the IME function as a whole. According to Wikisocion Fe is:

    Assessing the moods and attitudes from dynamics of surroundings and the actions and choices of others, being perceptive of the "emotional atmosphere", analyzing and evaluating emotions and attitudes of others based on their currently observable reactions and actions, with to express one's feelings and experiences openly and directly, to impact the emotional and social space, which can be done through expressive combination of words and gestures

    I think that people tend to get confused with this a lot. They see people having “fun’ and confuse it with straight out Fe, when there are other elements imitating the supposed

    I also think a lot of “Fe” (by definition) is in a sense ‘regular human things’ in some circumstances. I think it is in human nature to want to have fun and loosen up after a hard day’s work. And in some circumstances express how they are feeling. Not everyone can, or wants to assess and evaluate everyone in the room all the time, or impact everyone in the room. Distinguishing “a bunch of friends having fun” from actual Fe judgments helps us find out what is Fe judgement valuing, and what isn’t. I think a lot of people forget that Fe is an extroverted judgment function as well, and rational and not just “tee hee emotions.”

    I think that in general, my Fx functions are pretty weak, regardless of how you look at it (If it’s between LSE and SLE, both have 1D Fi and 2D Fe). So, I think that looking at valued vs unvalued can help a lot. It can be hard sometimes, because they don’t show in my psyche prevalently because of their lack of value a lot of the time.

    I also think that the whole Merry- Serious dichotomy is taken too literally and that all “serious” types are seen as puritans or something, and all the Merry types are seen as your mate from the pub. I think that it has more to do with preference and the functions/axis you value (i.e Fe-Ti over Te-Fi and what they bring) rather than if you’re a puritan or a lad. By nature, of course “Te” is going to be more ‘serious’ than “Fe” and LxE is going to be more “serious” by those terms, but there are also the 4D Fe Demo types (xEE) being in the ‘serious’ Quadras, when a lot of them are actually pretty “fun” people by nature.

    In the same way that a bunch of immature Alpha males gets mistaken as SLEs and high Se, when it’s really just a bunch of toxic, unhealthy expectations about masculinity being protrayed, I don’t think that ALL LxE are uptight bastards. Like, take Bianca Del Rio for example, although she’s a drag queen and an “insult comic”, I type her as an LSE and I find that her humour is very Te+ Ne HA orientated. It’s very blunt, direct, obvious. Has some puns. I also think that the main aim of Bianca’s humour is more based on the mindset of: “I’m a performer, I’m gonna make them laugh, it’s what I get paid to do” than just doing it to explicitly express emotions, to impact things emotionally, assess the emotional atmosphere etc. I think that Bianca’s passion in general is more Fi based than Fe.

    The reason I bring up Bianca is because so many people think that she is an ESE, when she really isn’t. She doesn’t exude Alpha Valyes, and she doesn’t seem to value Fe and Ti in the same way that someone like Yara Sofia (an actual ESE) does it (in and out of drag). Even if you observe their body language, and areas of focus you can see the difference:

    Yara Sofia:









    Look at how openly expressive, colourful and emotive Yara Sofia is.

    Bianca Del Rio:









    It’s not the same sort of colourful, emotive and openly expressive way of functioning that Yara Sofia has, imo. Bianca doesn’t talk about he same things and doesn’t seem to have that “positivity” within the environment that Yara has.

    But that’s another topic for another day, and it was just a quick analysis of how I interpret Te vs Fe valuing/presence.

    So I'm more just curious in figuring out why you don't consider Deta ST and you gravitate toward Beta ST.
    I think that there are a lot of misconstructions about Beta and Delta o and I do actually think that a lot of people lionise Beta types (especially the Beta STs) because they don’t understand what Se actually is, and because they aspire to be like them in a way because (for males especially), the concept of “peak, straight male masculinity” seems to align (on the surface) to how Socionics communities seem to perceive Beta ST males (in the West, at least).

    I also think that a lot of LSE men can get mistyped with SLE because of the strong Se and Te on the surface, but when it comes down to it, it’s about the IMEs and how you process information and understand the world. Anyway, I think that because people brought up Beta values and say that I am an ‘SxE’, I thought that I might be a Beta, but I realise there is a lot more to do than that.

    I think that also, Te base and Si creative can come across outwardly as Se and Ti (especially when they are using Se Demo in the external environment and Te 4D for SLEs). But to answer the question, I don’t really know why I didn’t consider LSE as my type, but the more I understand the theory, I realise that the “Beta” vs “Delta” thing is a bunch of stereotypes based on how people perceive the “Quadras” and that there is much more to it than that.

    (Here’s your essay for the day )

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    Oh is this thread for questions to help you think through it, or questions and feedback of what we think of your answers? I assumed it was just questions, no typing
    Why do you think that it's in the 'What's my Type?' section? lol.

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    I think a part of the issue also is that whole 'social hierarchy = Beta ST' thing that's also over exaggerated. Do I think that Beta care about social hierarchy? Yeah, but not in the way that its described, I think those are an extreme example, and idealised a bit. And a lot of the Socionicists are/were Alpha NT as well, and don't have the best grasp on Se as a singular function, let alone it being paired with Ti.
    I don’t think that those “values” alone are totally accurate to ‘typing’, because of the different functional variations, general variations in global cultures (Socionics is mainly geared towards Russians, so American LSE or British SLE will be different and have different values etc).
    I agree with this. This is a valid point. I also agree that the quadra values are really just a guide to figure out where to look but shouldn't be taken too seriously. I kind of se quadra values as a bottom-up sort of way where I get an idea of the vlaues by the people that happen to be in these quadras.


    - I have no fixed schedule and I do things my way, and I take as long as I have to.
    Would this be something you wish you would improve or something you wish people would leave you alone about?


    - I'm not into constantly defending my space, but I'll defend it if you get up my ass or annoy me.
    So defending your space from others is something you can do easily, but not something you wish to pay too much attention to?

    - I want to be doing productive things, and I want to accomplish things but they're all very "basic" points. It's all like "you see, I am doing this today, this tomorrow, I should do this today also, this tomorrow and I have that appointment for Thursday." I have no grandiose plans for the future, or aspirations.
    I don't tend to worry about the future at all, unlike my LIE Dad, who does my head in about it.
    This sounds like unvalued Ni to me at least, and probably PoLr Ni.
    I've never worried much about deadlines or time constraints tbh. They are guides, not absolutes.
    This could go either way, but I've seen many Se egos thrive on time constraints. They feel a rush from the pressure of time.

    I think that in a way, people equate JUST being polite and having a laugh as Fe
    I think a lot of people forget that Fe is an extroverted judgment function as well, and rational and not just “tee hee emotions.
    Yeah, I agree with this. Although I think Fi is more about politeness than Fe. Fe as the definition you provided is about the emotional dynamics and surroundings. You can't really tell this through a forum like this so it wasn't really a solid point from me. But if you want Fe you prefer more expressive displays of affection and I didn't hear much of that from what you described.

    I type her as an LSE
    I see that.

    Yara Sofia (an actual ESE)
    definitely.


    the concept of “peak, straight male masculinity”
    I see some descriptions where Se doms sound almost superhuman destined for leadership and greatness.

    They also don't sound very feminine so women of this type can shy away from identifying with a beta ST type.



    So what I think is that quadra values aren't the only thing you should use to type someone but in a situation where someone is in between 2 types that have basically the same IM dimensionality but value different ones, quadra values can be useful.

    I also don't think your socionics type will ever describe the whole 'you' they are all basically stereotypes in the end.

    I think the more you talk about yourself you sound more like an LSE. A lot of what you said isn't impossible for an SLE to say or think though.

    The way you talk about not wanting to constantly worry about defending your space seems like a demonstrative Se thing.

    If you type Bianca as an LSE and you identify with her, then I guess that's the best answer you will get. You know you the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Why do you think that it's in the 'What's my Type?' section? lol.
    Playing it safe in case you had hit the point where 'No battletyping here' = 'No repeatedly questioning my type'.

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    I agree with this. This is a valid point. I also agree that the quadra values are really just a guide to figure out where to look but shouldn't be taken too seriously. I kind of se quadra values as a bottom-up sort of way where I get an idea of the vlaues by the people that happen to be in these quadras.
    Yeah, definitely. In a way, if you identify with Te-Fi over Fe-Ti, you can narrow that down to Gamma and then Delta. Then you can narrow it down even more with the Ni-Se, Se-Ni axis etc. It's definitely a reasonable guide, from that point of view.

    Yeah, of course. And I also think ITR, especially duals are blown out of proportion. Like duals "are the one you need to complete yourself". I know this is a bit controversial, but I'd say that in a way, unhealthy versions of each type need duals to make up for the "lack of" the other valued elements they need. I also think that a healthy version of said type needs a dual less because although they're not perfect, they can in a way compensate through experience.

    Would this be something you wish you would improve or something you wish people would leave you alone about?
    I will probably never improve that, lol. It's something engrained in me, but in a sense, I'd like to be better slightly at it, but I'd prefer people just let me do my own thing. If that makes sense?

    So defending your space from others is something you can do easily, but not something you wish to pay too much attention to?
    Yeah (see below).

    Yeah, I agree with this. Although I think Fi is more about politeness than Fe. Fe as the definition you provided is about the emotional dynamics and surroundings. You can't really tell this through a forum like this so it wasn't really a solid point from me. But if you want Fe you prefer more expressive displays of affection and I didn't hear much of that from what you described.
    Yeah, I don't care much for it, though I do admit that Lito from Sense 8 (prolly an ESE) was kinda entertaining with his over the top, theatrical Fe and it worked for his storyline (coming out, and being paranoid about it), and he was also an actor, so I'd say that if he was more subdued it wouldn't work as well.

    As for PDA, yeah, not really into it. It's a bit annoying, if I am being honest. Seeing people propose to each other in a resturant kinda makes me cringe. And it's very overdone, like a burnt steak.

    I see some descriptions where Se doms sound almost superhuman destined for leadership and greatness.
    Yeah, the real issue I have with "leadership roles" for Se base is basically competence. I know that more likely than not, SLE can compensate for that through their Ti creative, but SEE in leadership roles? Not in the traditional sense. I see SEE as more of a Tony Robbins kind of guy, a guru of sorts rather than a "great leader", especially in the military, or some sort of gang. Yeah, Se is great at organising and in a sense, controlling people and objects but there's always going to be something lacking in terms of the competency and external organisation (yeah, SLE have 4D Te and they can do it, but they don't value it, so they're going to be focusing on the Se + Ti and the hierarchy more than likely in that position). SEE have Te HA, so they're going to need some help in that area, or are going to have to overcompensate in it. People forget that you need to be organised and have a good business sense as well. You can't just be like "I want to lead" and then forget about it when someone else "stronger" wants to take over. The best leaders are the people who think things through and know what they are actually doing.

    So what I think is that quadra values aren't the only thing you should use to type someone but in a situation where someone is in between 2 types that have basically the same IM dimensionality but value different ones, quadra values can be useful.
    Of course, I get that as well. I think I explained that above too.

    The way you talk about not wanting to constantly worry about defending your space seems like a demonstrative Se thing.
    Yeah, I don't see the point in defending it all the time. I have better things to do. If someone attacks, however, I'll yeet them away. I'll fight back, but only if they're actually attacking me. I don't do the whole "pissing up a fence" thing. It's not classy. What's mine is mine, and what's yours is yours. Unless you get greedy.

    If you type Bianca as an LSE and you identify with her, then I guess that's the best answer you will get. You know you the most.
    Yeah, maybe.
    @inaLim yeah, fair play. Thanks for respecting that. I think the whole Stray-Tim scenario has put me off battletyping. The way they handled things was really immature (both of them).

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    What makes a source of information valid to you. Ex. a socionics source

    How do you decide what to believe when information conflicts

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    @DEAD No prob. It's all good

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    I also agree that the quadra values are really just a guide to figure out where to look but shouldn't be taken too seriously.


    Its literally the most important aspect of the whole system

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    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    What makes a source of information valid to you. Ex. a socionics source

    How do you decide what to believe when information conflicts
    What makes a source valid to me? If it's consistent throughout the piece based upon what I already know and understand, and have confirmed to be true. If it's from some fringe, unproven socionicist, then I'm not going to take the source seriously.

    When I have enough sources saying the same thing, and one contradicts that information. That's when I call in an unreliable source.

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    Its literally the most important aspect of the whole system.
    No, the IMEs are. Without them, you wouldn't have functions to organise into Quadras, but I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you about it because you know it's right. The IMEs are the base, and everything else comes after. Go annoy someone else.

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    No, the IMEs are. Without them, you wouldn't have functions to organise into Quadras, but I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you about it because you know it's right. The IMEs are the base, and everything else comes after. Go annoy someone else.
    Without the notion of quadrality there's literally no system, carry on. It absolutely is the main defining aspect. The whole thing wouldn't make sense otherwise

    And yeah you should not waste your time arguing with me because you're uncapable of doing that. Still waiting for your ass on Covenant btw, there's literally the most consistently typed SLEs there in case you'd like to see how the type work / is, and who knows being typed as one for real

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygma View Post
    Without the notion of quadrality there's literally no system, carry on. It absolutely is the main defining aspect. The whole thing wouldn't make sense otherwise

    And yeah you should not waste your time arguing with me because you're uncapable of doing that. Still waiting for your ass on Covenant btw, there's literally the most consistently typed SLEs there in case you'd like to see how the type work / is, and who knows being typed as one for real
    You know you need functions to make the quadras. Without the sixteen types, you can have four types in four quadras.

    I’m not gonna waste my time arguing with you because it will go nowhere. No matter how many mind games you try to play with me, you won’t win. We’ll just end up circle jerking over the same point and “throwing insults” at each other. I have better things to do with my time.

    This is the last message I am going to send to you, by the way. Just a heads up. I don’t care about Discord anymore, and I barely go on there. I don’t want to go onto your stupid chat to get typed by a bunch of morons who might/might not actually be SLEs. I don’t care for it. It’s just Discord.

    Go find something useful to do with your time, and go annoy someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    You know you need functions to make the quadras. Without the sixteen types, you can have four types in four quadras.

    I’m not gonna waste my time arguing with you because it will go nowhere. No matter how many mind games you try to play with me, you won’t win. We’ll just end up circle jerking over the same point and “throwing insults” at each other. I have better things to do with my time.

    This is the last message I am going to send to you, by the way. Just a heads up. I don’t care about Discord anymore, and I barely go on there. I don’t want to go onto your stupid chat to get typed by a bunch of morons who might/might not actually be SLEs. I don’t care for it. It’s just Discord.

    Go find something useful to do with your time, and go annoy someone else.
    Barely a mindgame when we both know you'll never be able to argue about socionics, nor can you at any point show Ti creative, even less so Fi polr and never be considered as a Se dom to begin with given how bitch made you're built from top to bottom

    See the thing is Marco, its fine to avoid talking on vocal in order to not appear like who you truly are but I got a thing for delusional retards needing to be brought down to earth, and you happen to fall right in there. You've been studying functions since one year + and constantly reshaping your understanding in order to reshape your personality but at the end of the day, there ain't no beta in you. You got no Se, no Ti creative, absolutely zero Fe mobilising and your Fi is a bit too good

    Convenient to say you don't care about the community when you yourself expressed here that you're "so famous". Maybe its not because of the reasons you got in mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygma View Post
    Barely a mindgame when we both know you'll never be able to argue about socionics, nor can you at any point show Ti creative, even less so Fi polr and never be considered as a Se dom to begin with given how bitch made you're built from top to bottom

    See the thing is Marco, its fine to avoid talking on vocal in order to not appear like who you truly are but I got a thing for delusional retards needing to be brought down to earth, and you happen to fall right in there. You've been studying functions since one year + and constantly reshaping your understanding in order to reshape your personality but at the end of the day, there ain't no beta in you. You got no Se, no Ti creative, absolutely zero Fe mobilising and your Fi is a bit too good

    Convenient to say you don't care about the community when you yourself expressed here that you're "so famous". Maybe its not because of the reasons you got in mind
    Being a bitch has nothing to do with type. Any type can be a bitch. It's more to do with the fact that everyone takes this shit so seriously (especially on Discord), it's really hard not to meme. It's the internet, it doesn't prove much. Discord is a literal chat room, and it's not a good place to get a good idea of a person's type. I just want to relax and chill out on Discord. I want to go there for a good time, not for a stressful time, but I do admit that I went through a stage where I wasn't well. I wasn't functioning properly, and I think taking a step back from Discord and solving the issues helped a lot.

    I'm as down to earth as you can be. I did think my type was SxE for a while, but I'm beginning to think it's not. At least I have a personality to reshape, and I don't care for posers, but Se is so much more than just Alpha male peacocking and hierarchies. It's about using the force for impact. Knowing what to organise and where. I wouldn't say my Se is garbage at all. It's just not the American variant, and with all things American, it's bound to break soon because it's not properly engineered.

    And also, why do you, as an EIE care so much about me being SLE? What is the fascination with this? Aside from enterainment and goading me for a reaction, what else are you getting from this whole ordeal? If you answer me honestly, I might take you seriously. What is this fascination with Beta peacocking anyway? What have you got to prove? It's a three letter code, big whoop. I want to find mine, but I haven't got anything to prove to anyone. It's rich you're calling me a delusional asshole when you're literally an Ni creative who tried to be an SEE. I've seen your interview with Jack on WSS. And it was boring by the way.

    Have you ever heard of sarcasm before and humour? No, of course not. You're French I can make jokes about how famous I am, but you're the fool for taking them seriously. If you want to do continue to do this shit, Private Message me. I'm not really interested in publicly having any beef on this forum. It makes us both look like idiots (especially you, since you started it all). That is all I'm saying on this matter on this thread. If you respond here again, it's being ignored.

    Bye, Florlicia.
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    What you describe here sounds like a process type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    Being a bitch has nothing to do with type. Any type can be a bitch. It's more to do with the fact that everyone takes this shit so seriously (especially on Discord), it's really hard not to meme. It's the internet, it doesn't prove much. Discord is a literal chat room, and it's not a good place to get a good idea of a person's type. I just want to relax and chill out on Discord. I want to go there for a good time, not for a stressful time, but I do admit that I went through a stage where I wasn't well. I wasn't functioning properly, and I think taking a step back from Discord and solving the issues helped a lot.

    I'm as down to earth as you can be. I did think my type was SxE for a while, but I'm beginning to think it's not. At least I have a personality to reshape, and I don't care for posers, but Se is so much more than just Alpha male peacocking and hierarchies. It's about using the force for impact. Knowing what to organise and where. I wouldn't say my Se is garbage at all. It's just not the American variant, and with all things American, it's bound to break soon because it's not properly engineered.

    And also, why do you, as an EIE care so much about me being SLE? What is the fascination with this? Aside from enterainment and goading me for a reaction, what else are you getting from this whole ordeal? If you answer me honestly, I might take you seriously. What is this fascination with Beta peacocking anyway? What have you got to prove? It's a three letter code, big whoop. I want to find mine, but I haven't got anything to prove to anyone. It's rich you're calling me a delusional asshole when you're literally an Ni creative who tried to be an SEE. I've seen your interview with Jack on WSS. And it was boring by the way.

    Have you ever heard of sarcasm before and humour? No, of course not. You're French I can make jokes about how famous I am, but you're the fool for taking them seriously. If you want to do continue to do this shit, Private Message me. I'm not really interested in publicly having any beef on this forum. It makes us both look like idiots (especially you, since you started it all). That is all I'm saying on this matter on this thread. If you respond here again, it's being ignored.

    Bye, Florlicia.
    Wew I'm overwhelmed by that Se combined to a complete lack of congruent reasoning as expected. I told you you wouldn't be able to. See the thing is, Fi polr is all about not being able to fully understand yourself in relation to stuff, and much less others. Fi also wouldn't be considered when making a decision. Fi polr users wouldn't care at all about reshaping or whatever since you know, it's all about Se-Ti.

    Ti is your main lens. And as much as you don't like to hear it, you're good at decyphering people's feelings / motives quickly, but you're much worse when it comes down to consistency and not making exceptions about shit. You know, systemic applications ? yeah. I'm pretty sure you don't put people into categories either, and that you also consider individualities to a certain extent. I don't care specifically about you so to speak, I'm just interested about shit being right

    And about the interview : yes it was botched on purpose and I've said so quite a bit of times, there was a second one and Jack did hesitate for a bit between SLE / SEE for me in that one. I've been back around, typed EIE but as of late its SLE coming around a lot. While you Marco are as EIE as it gets

    As I said you're more than welcome to come around in Covenant. I'm extremely stubborn about results and I don't give a shit if you'll ignore that answer. Have a good one

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