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    Alright Gamma's you are now up! Step up to the plate I did how to catch alpha SF and NT, Beta NF and ST. Nowwww it's time for you guys! I will post the one for Delta tomorrow when I have time to complete this saga. A good trap is something to perfect!

    So, what is the best way to catch a Gamma SF or NT?



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    Again, let's start from the lost archives of E.J. Arendee:

    How to Seduce the Types:

    LIE: Talk to them like they're a big baby. Ask them to do favors for you, like you are their majesty. Eventually, they'll break in and kneel before you.

    ESI: Hit on them once or twice, until they know that you exist, then ignore them. Never look at them again. They no longer exist. They'll do the rest of the work.

    SEE: Just kind of hang around them long enough, and it'll happen.

    ILI: They're going to be kind of a dick to you, they're going to say mean things, and if that doesn't scare you off, you're good to go.

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    From another SLE:

    ESI (ISFP)/LIE (ENTJ):LIE: Money. Facts. Capitalism. Financial security. Office meetings. Efficiency. More boring corporate shit. Help, I can’t relate to people, because no one gives a shit about any of the neat things I listed above.
    ESI: I may be a stone cold bitch on the outside, but I really care about you deep down in the bottom of my icy heart. As long as you continue to get $500k a year, that’s all I care about. I will love you unconditionally and never let go.
    LIE: Thanks, I was getting worried there for a second that I’d be alone for the rest of my life. Now I know that someone cares about me, even if they really only care about my paycheck. Nice!

    SEE (ESFP)/ILI (INTJ):
    ILI: Ugh. The world sucks. I hate everyone because they suck. Everyone hates me back. Life sucks. You suck.
    SEE: Hey there, life’s not so bad when you’re getting laid 8 times a day! Here, how about I help you with that whole virginity thing that you’ve been angry about for the past 24 years? I’ll sleep with anyone, so it’s all good!
    ILI: Thank you. I have always wanted to see a set of genitals besides my own, but to no avail. I’ll predict what STD everyone has so that you don’t get it and pass it to me.

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    OK, leaving Betaland to go to Gamma City:

    As an LIE, I'm looking for a woman who is attractive and knows how to dress. This means a certain thing to me, and I can't easily define it, but I know it when I see it. Unfortunately, LSIs, SEIs and SLIs have it, too. It's called 4D Si. Two of those types I can now filter out because they are not Aggressors and, if truth be known, the LSI's are in many ways easier to seduce than the ESIs, so this is something that I have to be careful about.

    She needs to be good with money. Not necessarily able to make a lot of money, but able to conserve it and to spend it wisely. She also needs to be extremely moral while still being completely willing to have sex with me fairly "soon" in the relationship.

    She needs to have the attitude "Life is Work". That is actually a great LSI/ESI differentiator.

    My personal preference is for extremely smart women, but it's hard for me to judge the intelligence of ESIs because we are so different.

    Apropos of myself, I like small breasts and tall, thin bodies. But that's less important than who she is inside.
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    More importantly: why would you want to? シ
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    Actually, I would really like to learn how to catch a Gamma NT. My younger sister is a SEE and I think a nice ILI guy would be really good for her. She keeps attracting losers and I want to find nice and normal ILI guy for her but I don’t know what to keep a lookout for her. I don’t know what is the best way to trap one specifically as Gamma are a still a Mystery to me.



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    To "trap" an ESI, tell her that she's needed and then supply her with money. Make it clear that there is not an unlimited amount of money, but the supply can last for a very long time. The money doesn't have to be in the form of cash, although being able to pay for everything is very important. It can be in the form of giving her access to things.

    Don't tell her how to do stuff, but rather just supply the facts. Let her decide what to do with those facts.

    Don't lie to ESIs and don't cheat on them, unless you want to end up in their "bad" category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Actually, I would really like to learn how to catch a Gamma NT. My younger sister is a SEE and I think a nice ILI guy would be really good for her. She keeps attracting losers and I want to find nice and normal ILI guy for her but I don’t know what to keep a lookout for her. I don’t know what is the best way to trap one specifically as Gamma are a still a Mystery to me.

    Nice, normal ILIs are scarce. Maybe non-existent, actually, and I have a lot of ILI friends. But fortunately, SEEs aren't looking for nice or normal. They are looking for crazies whom they can be crazy with, and deep inside, ILIs are more than a bit crazy. If they have good logic and are able to warn SEEs about future disasters which will happen if they keep on doing what they've been doing, that's a bonus.

    Here, Harley Quinn is SEE and the Joker is ILI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vdQTVJEHM

    Here is a more realistic version of an SEE-ILI romance. Interaction starts at 0:22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsSNCmGUK2I
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    LIE: help them win but appear in awe of their success
    ILI: adore their intelligence
    ESI: give them what they want and overlook their selfishness
    SEE: give them free rein but leave the door open


    a.k.a. I/O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    LIE: help them win but appear in awe of their success
    This is embarrassingly true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    ILI: adore their intelligence
    This is obviously true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    ESI: give them what they want and overlook their selfishness
    I was telling someone the other day that in every communication I've had with ESIs, they seem to be coming from a place deep inside themselves, as if they are shouting from a hole and can't see that other people might not see what they see.
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    SEE: give them free rein but leave the door open


    a.k.a. I/O
    What does "leave the door open" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    ......What does "leave the door open" mean?
    The more unfettered freedom you give them, they more they think that home is a safe haven. In a way, they themselves create a long leash but a leash none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    The more unfettered freedom you give them, they more they think that home is a safe haven. In a way, they themselves create a long leash but a leash none the less.

    a.k.a. I/O

    I see. Thanks.

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    Gamma SF listens to gamma NT mourning and kicks his butt. Love is measured by the size of the bruise.
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    Lol how to trap. As an ILI I am already trapped. It's the cage that makes you not catch ILIs. I even put extra 'walls' so I would end up dying here. I avoid any form of contact from people and push them away by feeding to even just the simplest minor thing I have doubts on. A lot of people would get frustrated. Even at work I reject any form of meet up to befriend my coworkers. I work from home btw, I made sure of that so I would not have any further contact with people. I'm so happy mourning how victimized I am not being able to move from my position at all. I moved temporarily though, literally. I'm surprisingly happy with the change. Specially because it seems like my neighbors are quite noisy (you hear people walking around even at night, you hear banging and stuff I don't know why). I was so overwhelmed to think that some strong forces would take me away sooner or later. It's almost like magic. Now to inform everyone of how serious the inertia of this ILI is, I made the necessary change only because my family member got COVID.

    Iirc someone shared a video of a lonely ILI guy who lives alone. I watched it and same vibes tbh lol. Same lonely look. Pretty sure he also revels on the "woe is me", "I'm so lonely", "I wonder if someone would just make my life feel like magic? Everyone is just stupid and not worth it!" attitude.

    SEE should be the one to destroy the cage or inspire ILIs to get out of the cage.




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    Lol how to trap. As an ILI I am already trapped. It's the cage that makes you not catch ILIs. I even put extra 'walls' so I would end up dying here. I avoid any form of contact from people and push them away by feeding to even just the simplest minor thing I have doubts on. A lot of people would get frustrated. Even at work I reject any form of meet up to befriend my coworkers. I work from home btw, I made sure of that so I would not have any further contact with people. I'm so happy mourning how victimized I am not being able to move from my position at all. I moved temporarily though, literally. I'm surprisingly happy with the change. Specially because it seems like my neighbors are quite noisy (you hear people walking around even at night, you hear banging and stuff I don't know why). I was so overwhelmed to think that some strong forces would take me away sooner or later. It's almost like magic. Now to inform everyone of how serious the inertia of this ILI is, I made the necessary change only because my family member got COVID.

    Iirc someone shared a video of a lonely ILI guy who lives alone. I watched it and same vibes tbh lol. Same lonely look. Pretty sure he also revels on the "woe is me", "I'm so lonely", "I wonder if someone would just make my life feel like magic? Everyone is just stupid and not worth it!" attitude.

    SEE should be the one to destroy the cage or inspire ILIs to get out of the cage.
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    "ILIs are more than a bit crazy" - in my case this is true. I guess the stronger the Ni the stronger the crazy. Already crazy by nature and it also gets cultivated. Spending time alone really helps a lot. But the more you stay in that state the more you feel detached and feel that you are too crazy for others. Hence the typical ILI phrase "People are so stupid!". Lol it's a coping mechanism. I don't do that now because one time I shuffled some Lenormand and it showed I need to mature on that area. I always think that it's one of the major things that will lead me to my salvation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    "ILIs are more than a bit crazy" - in my case this is true. I guess the stronger the Ni the stronger the crazy. Already crazy by nature and it also gets cultivated. Spending time alone really helps a lot. But the more you stay in that state the more you feel detached and feel that you are too crazy for others. Hence the typical ILI phrase "People are so stupid!". Lol it's a coping mechanism. I don't do that now because one time I shuffled some Lenormand and it showed I need to mature on that area. I always think that it's one of the major things that will lead me to my salvation.
    Hmm, feeling really ghostly or detached from regular tree bears and inhabitants of the atmospheric road shows that You can invade the domains of the bird, and see things, or have a perspective that's very magnetic and illuminating. Interesting, Your Ni.
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    I admit I don't understand or know SEE-ILI dual couples that well, it's a mystery to me. It seems any attempt at SEE using their demonstrative Fe for the ILI ends up hitting their Fe PoLR instead lol. ((and vice versa for SEE's Ti polr))

    But maybe that's how it works? I think Gammas are the most sadistic quadra in a way so SEE & ILI probably have arguements back and forth together that turn into sexual tension and they end up dualizing and "hate fvcking" that way? lol Gammas are probably the king of hate fucking tbh.

    SEEs seem to hang out with their activity partners a lot more often ((LIE)) and semi-duals ((IEI)).

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    This is based on their DS (dual-seeking function - "suggestive function"). On some extent, they all apply to all gamma types:

    ESI: Show you are intelligent, can explain things very nicely.
    ILI: Openly display your personal power.
    LIE: Stick with them and don't let them go.
    SEE: Show them very imaginative stuff.

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    SEE will not be trapped they will find what they want, so they must be lured. SEEs like about ILI exactly what Fe types hate about them, in a crowded room of laughing people the ILI sits emotionless and cold not joining in at all. The SEE will approach them and begin to talk to them and the ILI will talk back in a subtle, frank, and sardonic way that wins the SEE over.

    Alternatively, the ILI will be attracted to those that allow them to feel like they can be themselves without having to worry about putting on a happy face.

    The SEE prefers this cold and emotionless partner that talks about mysterious Ni things. The ILI prefers a partner that makes them feel comfortable in their own skin and pushes them into action in the world.

    The ESI is like the SEE in that they are usually the predator, not the prey. Depending on gender and culture, this situation could be different.

    Generally, the ESI will spot the type of person that seems to be knowledgeable and active in Te. If the ESI is looking for a relationship they will find things out about them like, what they do, what their education is, what their plans are, all while monitoring the ethical information they are giving out. They will use this information to evaluate if this partner is worth their time.

    The LIE will gladly exchange this type of information with the ESI as well as appreciating the firm politeness of Fi. The LIE is clumsy in ethical communication and finds the ESI elegant, polite, and a pleasure to talk with.

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