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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Wise decision. I think you chose the right path (not that it’s my place as an SxI peasant to say so—I don’t have the Ni to draw such grand conclusions)
    Watch with your small SEI intellect as I easily manage to receive compensation and remain a first-class citizen

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    pics or gtfo

    we want to see that wheelchair
    https://imgur.com/a/1IejHwU

    No wc—SEI is a disability of the soul, not the legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Watch with your small SEI intellect as I easily manage to receive compensation and remain a first-class citizen
    Shame on you

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    The cooking thing...

    Again, the SEI gets fully immersed / in character with whatever they are doing; this will manifest in them doing things completely and correctly (in *their own* way). Sometimes almost as if they are playing an instrument.

    And again, I'm gonna use an example of me vs my dad; this time with making coffee.

    I make coffee like a savage; throw some cream and sugar and mix a little stuff. Tastes okay.

    My dad,

    He will measure out the amount of cream and sugar to particular/exact amounts. He will test taste the coffee and calibrate to the proper bitterness or sweetness. He will take his time in doing this correctly.

    His coffees taste AMAZING. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Shame on you
    Naw, but really, maybe you SxIs should be second-class citizens. I've never seen you guys do anything useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    The cooking thing...

    Again, the SEI gets fully immersed/in character with whatever they are doing; this will manifest in them doing things completely and correctly. Sometimes almost as if they are playing an instrument.

    Again, I'm gonna use an example of me vs my dad; this time with making coffee.

    I make coffee like a savage; throw some cream and sugar and mix a little stuff. Tastes okay.

    My dad,

    He will measure out the amount of cream and sugar to particular/exact amounts. He will test taste the coffee and calibrate to the proper bitterness or sweetness. He will take his time in doing this correctly.

    His coffees taste AMAZING. Lol
    I think it's subjective what they decide to do correctly right? Like if SEI user doesn't care then they will be sloppy but if they do care then they will be exacting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    I think it's subjective what they decide to do correctly right? Like if SEI user doesn't care then they will be sloppy but if they do care then they will be exacting?
    Yeah pretty much. What the Si-lead finds particularly important will vary from person to person

    I'm using an example of SEIs at their best since we've already discussed fat over-indulging SEIs

    Might as well throw yall some bones


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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Naw, but really, maybe you SxIs should be second-class citizens. I've never seen you guys do anything useful
    Maybe to you we aren't useful but we can be useful for other people

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Welcome to the alpha forum everybody.
    Finally, a place where people will accept my superiority because everyone else thinks they're worth about as much as a potato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Naw, but really, maybe you SxIs should be second-class citizens. I've never seen you guys do anything useful
    Thank you for agreeing with me. It’s nice to have an ally in my courageous plea for justice

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    So basically before we get sidetracked again from the real discussion topic,

    basically Si is a highly subjective function and it can be whatever the Si user wants it to be if I am understanding correctly. A focus on one particular thing (and since this function is subjective that can be whatever the user interprets) as opposed to the whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    Finally, a place where people will accept my superiority because everyone else thinks they're worth about as much as a potato.
    You say that until you are deprived of sweet sweet Si. Then who is the superior one

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    tf is this lol
    That is what 1d Ne looks like.

    Do not avert your eyes. I need to be seen for who I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    You say that, until you are deprived of sweet sweet Si. Then who is the superior one

    hey no one is gonna stop me from a diet consisting entirely of random things I find in the refrigerator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    That is what 1d Ne looks like.

    Do not avert your eyes. I need to be seen for who I am.
    Lawd have mercy

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    tf is this lol

    Art

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    So basically before we get sidetracked again from the real discussion topic,

    basically Si is a highly subjective function and it can be whatever the Si user wants it to be if I am understanding correctly. A focus on one particular thing (and since this function is subjective that can be whatever the user interprets) as opposed to the whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    So basically before we get sidetracked again from the real discussion topic,

    basically Si is a highly subjective function and it can be whatever the Si user wants it to be if I am understanding correctly. A focus on one particular thing (and since this function is subjective that can be whatever the user interprets) as opposed to the whole.
    Si is when good food

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I know that it doesn't mean much but it is all I could take away from this thread so far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    hey no one is gonna stop me from a diet consisting entirely of random things I find in the refrigerator.
    You say that until a shitty piece of lettuce and a diet cola is staring you in the face and I finished making a hot home cooked stew. Have fun with your fridge and crappy intestines

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    I know that it doesn't mean much but it is all I could take away from this thread so far...
    You're just running to the same problem anybody runs into when they try to define socionics. It's essentially random because people don't understand the difference between a pet theory and reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    You're just running to the same problem anybody runs into when they try to define socionics. It's essentially random because people don't understand the difference between a pet theory and reality
    Alright, then how do we fix it? How do we define the difference between a pet theory and reality?

    Do we need to observe human behaviors in a proper setting with a more proper psychological analysis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    You say that until a shitty piece of lettuce and a diet cola is staring you in the face and I finished making a hot home cooked stew. Have fun with your fridge and crappy intestines
    Stew? Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    Alright, then how do we fix it? How do we define the difference between a pet theory and reality?

    Do we need to observe human behaviors in a proper setting with a more proper psychological analysis?
    Suspend judgment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Suspend judgement
    So basically sit back and observe objectively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    Stew? Where?
    Oh? and who is the Superior one now? No stew for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    So basically sit back and observe objectively?
    Sit and wait until you know rather than guess. Don't force the process. It's fine to collect hypotheses but people will often confuse a random idea that pops into their head (hypothesis) for the truth. How you go about establishing truth is beyond the scope of this lecture

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Oh? and who is the Superior one now? No stew for you!
    this is a crime i'm calling the police give me the stew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    this is a crime i'm calling the police give me the stew.
    Bager's are technically wild animals and thus I shouldn't be giving stew. Besides, animals can't call the police Unless you admit to Si superiority then maybeeeee I'll give you some stew. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Bager's are technically wild animals and thus I shouldn't be giving stew. Besides, animals can't call the police Unless you admit to Si superiority then maybeeeee I'll give you some stew. Maybe.
    I am going to maul you to death if you do not give me the stew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    I am going to maul you to death if you do not give me the stew.
    I aint afraid of no Bager, especially one in a hat. I got a knife. No stew for you

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    Well the truth will probably take a lot longer to come... As it needs professional (serious) analysis, data, controlled research accounting for variables, etc, to actually make any change... I am not invested in the theory enough to become a full time Socionical analysist. And I don't know anyone who is invested and serious enough in the theory either... So a dead end it may be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    I aint afraid of no Bager, especially one in a hat. I got a knife. No stew for you
    FINE, Si is kinda useful. please just give me the stew i haven't eaten anything hotter than room temperature in a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    FINE, Si is kinda useful. please just give me the stew i haven't eaten anything hotter than room temperature in a month
    I want to hear you say IS useful and Si users are on par with Ne users. If you do, you get the whole stew

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    I want to hear you say IS useful and Si users are on par with Ne users. If you do, you get the whole stew
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm fineeeee Si=Ne

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    Well the truth will probably take a lot longer to come... As it needs professional (serious) analysis, data, controlled research accounting for variables, etc, to actually make any change... I am not invested in the theory enough to become a full time Socionical analysist. And I don't know anyone who is invested and serious enough in the theory either... So a dead end it may be...
    If it makes you feel any better, serious data is hard to come by for any personality theory. I took a class in my uni and I was very surprised about how many different ones out there and how vague they can be. It is very hard to get data on anything subjective and create external measurement. My professor based each theory on a scales if they passed certain attributes of a solid theory. I wish this was taken more seriously and there was more serious funding behind personality theory psychology in general but, it seems until a legitimate analysis and ways of making subjective traits that can be measured in legitimate and external ways. The Big 5 is the main use of personality theory scale that is used by psychologists at the moment. We have a long ways to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm fineeeee Si=Ne
    Good Bager~ You can have the Stew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Good Bager~ You can have the Stew!
    this was the dumbest and most enjoyable conversation i've had on this website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baqer View Post
    this was the dumbest and most enjoyable conversation i've had on this website.
    Glad you enjoyed! I had fun too! lol . I was able to even put my Alpha NT trapping to the test and it even worked Edit: I feel like a true alpha member now!
    Last edited by MissDucki; 07-22-2021 at 02:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    The cooking thing...

    Again, the SEI gets fully immersed / in character with whatever they are doing; this will manifest in them doing things completely and correctly. Sometimes almost as if they are playing an instrument.

    And again, I'm gonna use an example of me vs my dad; this time with making coffee.

    I make coffee like a savage; throw some cream and sugar and mix a little stuff. Tastes okay.

    My dad,

    He will measure out the amount of cream and sugar to particular/exact amounts. He will test taste the coffee and calibrate to the proper bitterness or sweetness. He will take his time in doing this correctly.

    His coffees taste AMAZING. Lol
    Lol this is something I do. I really don't like to cook, but if I have to I'll make sure to take my time because everything has to be perfectly the way I liked it. Sometimes I wish I was one of those people who just threw some shit together but alas, that's not me.
    Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome




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