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    What do you think about her type?







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    IEI
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    IEI
    I thought xEI for her, SEI>IEI, what makes you think she is a Ni-dom instead of Si-dom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    LIE
    This one was very unexpected, please do explain.

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    I'm thinking EIE. Harmonizing. But LIE is an interesting typing also.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    EIE seems on point

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    Im sure about it now. EIE-H.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    @Tallmo, @skosh, can you elobrate a bit more, I am mostly interested about how you perceive her Si polr?
    @Tallmo in the past you also typed Shannyn Sossamon as EIE-H.

    If these people have their Si-polr, this doesn't disturb me. In the way that they communicate, they don't seem too tense as some Ni-creatives can be. They seem more relaxed, grounded and self affirming to me.

    That's why I thought Isabella can be SEI>IEI and Shannyn Sossamon can be IEI.

    I know people who are similar to these people, I can see EIE, the only problem is that their polr seems non-existent compared to other EIEs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    @Tallmo,
    If these people have their Si-polr, this doesn't disturb me. In the way that they communicate, they don't seem too tense as some Ni-creatives can be. They seem more relaxed, grounded and self affirming to me.
    I'm looking at the overall impression, which seems EJ, and H. She is phenomenal in how she conducts herself. She is both controlled and natural, very talented. Rhythm and flow of speech superb. Fe seems very good. In fact, she is all Fe.

    That's why I thought Isabella can be SEI>IEI
    I don't see SEI. I can't say much more.

    I know people who are similar to these people, I can see EIE, the only problem is that their polr seems non-existent compared to other EIEs.
    That's often the case with Harmonizing. The polr is smoothed over in some way. But we are just watching a video here, might be different to know her in person or live with her. EIEs can be very picky with sensory impressions. Control freaks. I could imagine her being that off-stage, but I don't know.
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    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    IEI-Ni

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    She is ten times more extroverted appearing than my own self. She seems Fe base.. People think she is XEI, and yet they think I am EXE… Makes little sense, but she is definitely based Fe.
    I am in my head; not society.

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    Yeah, I can see EIE.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    People think she is XEI, and yet they think I am EXE… Makes little sense, but she is definitely based Fe.
    Gurl this thread isn't about you

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Gurl this thread isn't about you
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    I am in my head; not society.

    Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am.​ Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).


    My thoughts align w action to succeed what needs (at least in my dreamed ideal, they do)…


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    bump, IEI vs EIE?

    if someone has an explanation about her polr, that would be appreciated.

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    She doesn't seem to have any Te in her so probably IEI. EIE's have some Te.

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    She reminds me very distinctly of two people, Audrey Hepburn and Julia Ormond, in both looks and mannerisms

    IEI or SEI maybe
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    The way she smiles doesn't look like victim. I think SEI... not sure.

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    I loved her in Blue Velvet.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudaimonia View Post
    I loved her in Blue Velvet.
    She was so good in that indeed. Perfect casting.

    I think she's Ni, so maybe EIE. But SEI seems to be logical, too.
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